JSU at (3) EWU Game Thread

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Jacksonville State Gamecocks (11-3, 5-3 OVC) at (3) Eastern Washington Eagles (11-2, 8-0 BSC)

Saturday, Dec. 14th, 2013 • 1:00 p.m. Pacific
Roos Field (8,600) • Cheney, Wash.

Series: Never met.

TV: None.
Webcast: ESPN Gameplan and ESPN3
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Eastern will host a game on Saturday, Dec. 14 at 1:05 p.m. Pacific time versus Jacksonville State, which upset sixth-seeded McNeese State 31-10 Saturday in the second round. The game will be televised live on internet-based ESPN3. A year ago, Eastern advanced to the semifinals and won the title in 2010.

Located in Jacksonville, Ala., the Gamecocks are 11-3 overall and pounced Samford 55-14 in the first round on Nov. 30 after receiving an at-large bid to the playoffs. It will be EWU’s first-ever meeting with Jacksonville State, which finished 5-3 in the Ohio Valley Conference under first-year head coach Bill Clark.

Information on tickets for the game at “The Inferno” – where EWU is 23-3 all-time – will be available at: http://goeags.com/ticket/13playoffs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (also below). The game will be broadcast live on internet-based ESPN3, and fans may also listen live regionally on 700-AM ESPN and via the web at http://www.700espn.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

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[EWURanger]

Close game in the 1st half. EWU makes adjustments in the 3rd and never looks back.

EWU by 17.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Close game in the 1st half. EWU makes adjustments in the 3rd and never looks back.

EWU by 17.

About damn time you predict with some confidence!

[EWURanger]

Close game in the 1st half. EWU makes adjustments in the 3rd and never looks back.

EWU by 17.

About damn time you predict with some confidence!

I feel good about this one.

[Mvemjsunpx]

Eastern's running game better be going like it was against SDSU. Jax State's pass D is legit.

[BlackFalkin]

Eastern's running game better be going like it was against SDSU. Jax State's pass D is legit.

It's not hard when there only 3 in the box. SDSU thought EWU only had a passing attack, and they got taxed. If JSU does that they'll get burned too. All EWU has to do is put four wide and Quincy in the backfield. There's no way to defend that. McNeese took a shit at home. JSU probably shouldn't even be in this game. EWU runs away with this one from the giddy-up. 51-17

[Gil Dobie]

Over/Under is 125

EWU having a majority of those points

[Grizo406]

Close game in the 1st half. EWU makes adjustments in the 3rd and never looks back.

EWU by 17.

Agree completely, and best of luck, Ranger!

Can you explain to me what "adjustments" are? Those involved with Griz football don't seem to know what that word means!??!

[JohnStOnge]

Eastern's running game better be going like it was against SDSU. Jax State's pass D is legit.

Eastern Washington should be fine. I don't know about all year but against McNeese a lot of it was McNeese just playing awfully. They had their chances in the passing game but if the quarterback didn't miss the receivers the receivers often dropped it.

And they ARE weak against the run. McNeese could not exploit it and the rushing yards were really low because of QB sacks borne of desperation and being behind. But when they opened the game with two plays running right at Jacksonville State they got 11 and 7 yards. For the game they averaged over 5.5 yards per carry on designed running plays. But that was not a factor because they got behind due to their Keystone Cops impersonation and did not run the ball on designed running plays much.

Eastern Washington is going to skull drag Jacksonville State. They have no business in the final eight but are there because McNeese 1) probably didn't belong among the top eight seeds anyway and 2) did its "Northern Iowa" thing only much worse. Unless you watched it on ESPN3 you have no idea as to how much McNeese did to stop itself on offense. Also, for some reason, McNeese's quarterback was wildly inaccurate. That happened with him. Most games he'd be dead on like against Sam Houston State. But some games he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. And this was one of the "can't hit the broad side of a barn" games.

Then sometimes when he did hit receivers for what should have been first downs they'd drop the ball.

I just can't imagine Eastern Washington doing as much to help Jacksonville State's defense as McNeese did. I think Eastern Washington had the toughest second round draw among the seeds and handled it well. Now they're about to get the easiest quarterfinal draw. By far.

[Mvemjsunpx]

Agree completely, and best of luck, Ranger!

Can you explain to me what "adjustments" are? Those involved with Griz football don't seem to know what that word means!??!

What are you talking about? The Griz outscored CCU 21-7 in the second half.

[Grizo406]

Agree completely, and best of luck, Ranger!

Can you explain to me what "adjustments" are? Those involved with Griz football don't seem to know what that word means!??!

What are you talking about? The Griz outscored CCU 21-7 in the second half.

If that's what "adjustments" means, IMO, it was too little, and WAY too late.

Tell me the final score again...

[LDopaPDX]

Eastern makes great halftime adjustments, no doubt. However, the flip side to that is Eastern is often in total arrears to start a game. I don't have the time to check the numbers, but something like 80% of all first possession against Eastern's D have ended in scores over the last 2 seasons. The number is like 22 of 27 games with a first possession score... it's incredible how bad Eastern's D comes out to start the game; it's like we don't watch film or something.

[Mvemjsunpx]

What are you talking about? The Griz outscored CCU 21-7 in the second half.

If that's what "adjustments" means, IMO, it was too little, and WAY too late.

Tell me the final score again...

You may have a point with second-quarter adjustments. The Griz were outscored by 7 in the 2Q this year, while they mostly dominated outside of the second (+47 in the 1Q; +37 in the 3Q; +105 in the 4Q, +10 in OT).

Still… if one were to rank the weaknesses the Griz had this season, "adjustments" were probably near the bottom of the list.

[clawman]

Eastern makes great halftime adjustments, no doubt. However, the flip side to that is Eastern is often in total arrears to start a game. I don't have the time to check the numbers, but something like 80% of all first possession against Eastern's D have ended in scores over the last 2 seasons. The number is like 22 of 27 games with a first possession score... it's incredible how bad Eastern's D comes out to start the game; it's like we don't watch film or something.

Have you considered that possibly the Eagles establish a defensive plan based on what they've seen on film and the opponent throws in a wrinkle from what they have done in the past? Lets give the defense a little credit for making adjustments at half. The defense has only given up 6 points in the last 7 games, 14 in the last 9 games.
Good Job coach Graham!
edit- Oops 3rd qtr points -
The topic is adjustments so I was pointing out the adjustments made @ 1/2 were productive

[Gil Dobie]

Have you considered that possibly the Eagles establish a defensive plan based on what they've seen on film and the opponent throws in a wrinkle from what they have done in the past? Lets give the defense a little credit for making adjustments at half. The defense has only given up 6 points in the last 7 games, 14 in the last 9 games.
Good Job coach Graham!

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Portland St themselves scored more than 14 points

[Ibanez]

What are you talking about? The Griz outscored CCU 21-7 in the second half.

If that's what "adjustments" means, IMO, it was too little, and WAY too late.

Tell me the final score again...

[Gil Dobie]

If that's what "adjustments" means, IMO, it was too little, and WAY too late.

Tell me the final score again...

How can you post the scoreboard without a picture of the entire stadium

[Ibanez]

How can you post the scoreboard without a picture of the entire stadium

I wanted the score to be easily read.

[Grizo406]

If that's what "adjustments" means, IMO, it was too little, and WAY too late.

Tell me the final score again...

My question was rhetorical, Mark...but, I thank you for taking time out of your busy day to post the pic!

I was at the game, and froze my abnormally larger pecker just about off! My coronal ridge showed early signs of frost-bite, late in the 3rd Qtr, but Ursus had saw the problem, and took the appropriate action(s)...

Coastal was a well coached, disciplined team, and made the right "adjustments". No doubt in my mind that the better team won on Saturday.

Congrats on the win, my friend!

[Grizo406]

If that's what "adjustments" means, IMO, it was too little, and WAY too late.

Tell me the final score again...

You may have a point with second-quarter adjustments. The Griz were outscored by 7 in the 2Q this year, while they mostly dominated outside of the second (+47 in the 1Q; +37 in the 3Q; +105 in the 4Q, +10 in OT).

Still… if one were to rank the weaknesses the Griz had this season, "adjustments" were probably near the bottom of the list.

Well, you may have a point, too, on the "list". I think the "adjustments" deal would be listed slightly below "Coaching/Play Calling".

I sit in 233B, and there's a 9 year old kid that sits behind me in that section...he brings more noise...EVERY GAME...than just about anyone in our section! I know close to zero about the X's and O's of football, but he asked me, this past Saturday, "Why do we keep throwing for 40, when we only need 5 or 6 yards?". And, "Why do the Griz stop doing what works?".

In my limited knowledge of FCS football, the only thing I could think to tell him was: "Coaching, and adjustments".

I was going to direct my young friend over to funny water's area, but funny water was crying too hard, and decided not to.

[Mvemjsunpx]

You may have a point with second-quarter adjustments. The Griz were outscored by 7 in the 2Q this year, while they mostly dominated outside of the second (+47 in the 1Q; +37 in the 3Q; +105 in the 4Q, +10 in OT).

Still… if one were to rank the weaknesses the Griz had this season, "adjustments" were probably near the bottom of the list.

Well, you may have a point, too, on the "list". I think the "adjustments" deal would be listed slightly below "Coaching/Play Calling".

I sit in 233B, and there's a 9 year old kid that sits behind me in that section...he brings more noise...EVERY GAME...than just about anyone in our section! I know close to zero about the X's and O's of football, but he asked me, this past Saturday, "Why do we keep throwing for 40, when we only need 5 or 6 yards?". And, "Why do the Griz stop doing what works?".

In my limited knowledge of FCS football, the only thing I could think to tell him was: "Coaching, and adjustments".

I was going to direct my young friend over to funny water's area, but funny water was crying too hard, and decided not to.

The thing about the "play calling" is something I've said all season: I think that's on Johnson & not the play. Most every pass play has a deep route of some kind, and Johnson's default move when he was pressured was to throw it deep & hope something good happens. That's fine on first or second down, but not so much on third or fourth. Now to be fair to JJ's decision making: a lot of those deep balls against CCU were open, he just missed badly.

Hynson & Johnson need to work on getting him more patient early in games. It's almost like he was perfectly calm, patient, & relaxed in crunch time, but was ironically panicky in less crucial situations.

[talon38]

Seriously, another Griz thread, just wasted my time, again!!

[SeattleGriz]

Well, you may have a point, too, on the "list". I think the "adjustments" deal would be listed slightly below "Coaching/Play Calling".

I sit in 233B, and there's a 9 year old kid that sits behind me in that section...he brings more noise...EVERY GAME...than just about anyone in our section! I know close to zero about the X's and O's of football, but he asked me, this past Saturday, "Why do we keep throwing for 40, when we only need 5 or 6 yards?". And, "Why do the Griz stop doing what works?".

In my limited knowledge of FCS football, the only thing I could think to tell him was: "Coaching, and adjustments".

I was going to direct my young friend over to funny water's area, but funny water was crying too hard, and decided not to.

The thing about the "play calling" is something I've said all season: I think that's on Johnson & not the play. Most every pass play has a deep route of some kind, and Johnson's default move when he was pressured was to throw it deep & hope something good happens. That's fine on first or second down, but not so much on third or fourth. Now to be fair to JJ's decision making: a lot of those deep balls against CCU were open, he just missed badly.

Hynson & Johnson need to work on getting him more patient early in games. It's almost like he was perfectly calm, patient, & relaxed in crunch time, but was ironically panicky in less crucial situations.

I think Jordan is much smarter than you are giving him credit for. You make it sound as if when the play is called, he instinctively locks onto the furthest receiver. His old man was a coach and that kid can read a defense, so I can't completely agree with you.

[Mvemjsunpx]

I think Jordan is much smarter than you are giving him credit for. You make it sound as if when the play is called, he instinctively locks onto the furthest receiver. His old man was a coach and that kid can read a defense, so I can't completely agree with you.

No, I think he sees that the quick short route isn't there & locks in on Jones or Henderson—whichever one happened to be deep—rather than buying some more time. He didn't need to do this during the hurry-up situations because the defenses were conceding the short stuff most of the time (like Cal Poly's truly awful prevent on the final drive of that game).

It appears JJ realizes that first downs are the most important thing in a two-minute drill scenario, but maybe he underrates their importance in more normal situations. UM's inability to get first downs in the second quarter against CCU caused the D to get tired and the D-Line to subsequently get run over.

[BlackFalkin]

Well, you may have a point, too, on the "list". I think the "adjustments" deal would be listed slightly below "Coaching/Play Calling".

I sit in 233B, and there's a 9 year old kid that sits behind me in that section...he brings more noise...EVERY GAME...than just about anyone in our section! I know close to zero about the X's and O's of football, but he asked me, this past Saturday, "Why do we keep throwing for 40, when we only need 5 or 6 yards?". And, "Why do the Griz stop doing what works?".

In my limited knowledge of FCS football, the only thing I could think to tell him was: "Coaching, and adjustments".

I was going to direct my young friend over to funny water's area, but funny water was crying too hard, and decided not to.

The thing about the "play calling" is something I've said all season: I think that's on Johnson & not the play. Most every pass play has a deep route of some kind, and Johnson's default move when he was pressured was to throw it deep & hope something good happens. That's fine on first or second down, but not so much on third or fourth. Now to be fair to JJ's decision making: a lot of those deep balls against CCU were open, he just missed badly.

Hynson & Johnson need to work on getting him more patient early in games. It's almost like he was perfectly calm, patient, & relaxed in crunch time, but was ironically panicky in less crucial situations.

Bingo. JJ fucked that game up for the griz.