Week 12 TSN Poll

Post by **Vidav** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:06 pm

1. North Dakota State Bison (156) 9-0 3900 1
2. Eastern Illinois Panthers 9-1 3686 2
3. Eastern Washington Eagles 8-2 3579 3
4. Sam Houston State Bearkats 8-2 3332 6
5. Fordham Rams 10-0 3178 7
6. Maine Black Bears 9-1 3049 8
7. Montana Grizzlies 8-2 2624 10
8. Montana State Bobcats 7-3 2598 4
9. McNeese State Cowboys 8-2 2523 11
10. Towson Tigers 8-2 2328 13
11. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 9-1 2257 5
12. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 7-2 2208 14
13. Charleston Southern Buccaneers 10-1 2108 18
14. Southeastern Louisiana Lions 8-2 2035 16
15. Youngstown State Penguins 8-2 1697 9
16. William & Mary Tribe 7-3 1428 23
17. Chattanooga Mocs 8-2 1208 24
18. Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 8-2 1089 12
19. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 6-4 1087 19
20. Lehigh Mountain Hawks 7-2 982 21
21. Delaware Blue Hens 7-3 969 15
22. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 8-2 592 NR
23. New Hampshire Wildcats 5-4 513 25
24. Wofford Terriers 5-4 453 17
25. Princeton Tigers 7-1 267 NR
Others receiving votes: Samford 180, Tennessee State 142, James Madison 140, Southern Utah 133, Villanova 93, South Carolina State 75, Harvard 52, Northern Iowa 35, Central Arkansas 25, Jackson State 20, Eastern Kentucky 19, Georgia Southern 18, Furman 15, Cal Poly 14, Illinois State 14, Sacred Heart 10, Missouri State 7, UT Martin 6, Liberty 4, Southern Illinois 3, Jacksonville 2, San Diego 1, Florida A&M 1, Alcorn State 1.

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:22 pm

How is Villanova not ranked? One of their fans pointed out that they are really high in all the computer rankings. Their five losses were all quality losses. How are these pollsters missing a solid .500 squad like Nova?

Spoiler: show

dal4018 · Post by **dal4018** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:48 pm

How are New Hampshire and Wofford ranked ahead of Princeton???!

bucs90 · Post by **bucs90** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:57 pm

Wow. No love for Charleston Southern. They were 16th, beat 3rd ranked Coastal and moved to 10-1 with a lone loss to Pac12 Colorado.......and they only move up to 13th....2 spots behind Coastal Carolina (not that CCU doesn't deserve to be 11th, they do). Its ok though, if they just keep winning, win the conference, and they'll get a playoff shot.

Glad to see Coastal is still top 15. They'll lose to South Carolina, but win the other one and finish 10-2 and hopefully get an at-large bid. Was hoping CSU could compete for a home playoff game, but they'll need some help now, as GWU and Liberty aren't ranked and wont help their ranking much if CSU wins. Big IF though, b/c Liberty and GWU will be tough games.

bucs90 · Post by **bucs90** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:59 pm

dal4018 wrote:How are New Hampshire and Wofford ranked ahead of Princeton???!

I don't know why, but New Hampshire has been getting it's ass kissed every week in the polls. Wofford? They're ok, but, 5-4 isn't that great. 1 loss was to Baylor.

Princeton is just not getting any love.

Post by **MrTitleist** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:06 pm

South Dakota State...

bucs90 · Post by **bucs90** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:12 pm

I do think FCS has some of the factors that FBS does with the SEC, as in there seems to be a trend towards giving the benefit of the doubt to teams from the Northwest and Great Plains/Rocky Mountain area teams. Which they've earned from past years, so, if we don't like it, just beat 'em in the playoffs.

dal4018 · Post by **dal4018** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:19 pm

MrTitleist wrote:South Dakota State...

Yeah they are ranked too high as well.

uofmman1122 · Post by **uofmman1122** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:23 pm

7. Montana Grizzlies 8-2 2624 10
12. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 7-2 2208 14

Paging Jon.

The pollsters know what's up.

bucs90 · Post by **bucs90** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:23 pm

The beauty of FCS is just win, make the playoffs, and prove it there. My team is, hopefully, gonna have a shot at that for the first time ever. Hope we can make a decent showing.

uofmman1122 · Post by **uofmman1122** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:39 pm

bucs90 wrote:Wow. No love for Charleston Southern. They were 16th, beat 3rd ranked Coastal and moved to 10-1 with a lone loss to Pac12 Colorado.......and they only move up to 13th....2 spots behind Coastal Carolina (not that CCU doesn't deserve to be 11th, they do). Its ok though, if they just keep winning, win the conference, and they'll get a playoff shot.

Glad to see Coastal is still top 15. They'll lose to South Carolina, but win the other one and finish 10-2 and hopefully get an at-large bid. Was hoping CSU could compete for a home playoff game, but they'll need some help now, as GWU and Liberty aren't ranked and wont help their ranking much if CSU wins. Big IF though, b/c Liberty and GWU will be tough games.

IMO, both teams are paper tigers and will get bounced in their first game (if they both even make it).

Post by **dbackjon** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:46 pm

uofmman1122 wrote:7. Montana Grizzlies 8-2 2624 10
12. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 7-2 2208 14

Paging Jon.

The pollsters know what's up.

Obviously clueless voters

Brock Landers · Post by **Brock Landers** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:47 pm

lmao at UM and MSU

Can you imagine either team playing someone like SHSU?

Post by **Vidav** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:48 pm

dbackjon wrote:
uofmman1122 wrote:7. Montana Grizzlies 8-2 2624 10
12. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 7-2 2208 14

Paging Jon.

The pollsters know what's up.

Obviously clueless voters

bucs90 · Post by **bucs90** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:50 pm

uofmman1122 wrote:
bucs90 wrote:Wow. No love for Charleston Southern. They were 16th, beat 3rd ranked Coastal and moved to 10-1 with a lone loss to Pac12 Colorado.......and they only move up to 13th....2 spots behind Coastal Carolina (not that CCU doesn't deserve to be 11th, they do). Its ok though, if they just keep winning, win the conference, and they'll get a playoff shot.

Glad to see Coastal is still top 15. They'll lose to South Carolina, but win the other one and finish 10-2 and hopefully get an at-large bid. Was hoping CSU could compete for a home playoff game, but they'll need some help now, as GWU and Liberty aren't ranked and wont help their ranking much if CSU wins. Big IF though, b/c Liberty and GWU will be tough games.
IMO, both teams are paper tigers and will get bounced in their first game (if they both even make it).

Based on what? Neither are traditional names, and don't play in the Northwest or Rocky Mountain region, which seems to get most of they hype in FCS lately, especially with the SoCon imploding.

uofmman1122 · Post by **uofmman1122** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:50 pm

bucs90 wrote:
uofmman1122 wrote: IMO, both teams are paper tigers and will get bounced in their first game (if they both even make it).
Based on what? Neither are traditional names, and don't play in the Northwest or Rocky Mountain region, which seems to get most of they hype in FCS lately, especially with the SoCon imploding.

Neither team has beaten anyone even remotely good.

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:52 pm

Brock Landers wrote:lmao at UM and MSU

Can you imagine either team playing someone like SHSU?

UM, yes. MSU, no.

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:54 pm

uofmman1122 wrote:7. Montana Grizzlies 8-2 2624 10
12. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 7-2 2208 14

Paging Jon.

The pollsters know what's up.

No one should be ahead of NAU

vutomcat · Post by **vutomcat** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:29 pm

Nova has three loses to the number 5 & 6 ranked teams in fcs and Boston college who is a good ACC team who would be comparable to Ndsu in fcs. 5-2 on remaining games with wins over the highly ranked Towson and William & Mary teams. They should be in the conversation after they beat Delaware by 20.

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:44 pm

vutomcat wrote:Nova has three loses to the number 5 & 6 ranked teams in fcs and Boston college who is a good ACC team who would be comparable to Ndsu in fcs. 5-2 on remaining games with wins over the highly ranked Towson and William & Mary teams. They should be in the conversation after they beat Delaware by 20.

You can't get to the bare minimum 7 D1 wins. Your season was over two weeks ago. It'll likely take 8 D1 wins this year anyway. You guys are way, way out of that picture. Better luck in 2014. Next.

vutomcat · Post by **vutomcat** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:58 pm

Ok commisioner.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:51 pm

93henfan wrote:
vutomcat wrote:Nova has three loses to the number 5 & 6 ranked teams in fcs and Boston college who is a good ACC team who would be comparable to Ndsu in fcs. 5-2 on remaining games with wins over the highly ranked Towson and William & Mary teams. They should be in the conversation after they beat Delaware by 20.
You can't get to the bare minimum 7 D1 wins. Your season was over two weeks ago. It'll likely take 8 D1 wins this year anyway. You guys are way, way out of that picture. Better luck in 2014. Next.

Doesn't mean they're not one of the top 25. Two completely different conversations.

JohnStOnge · Post by **JohnStOnge** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:51 pm

You know, I want Southeastern Louisiana to lose this weekend but to me them being rated behind Sam Houston State and McNeese kind of confirms that pollsters go on past reputation. There is no way, none, that someone could be looking just at what's happened this year and not have Southeastern Louisiana ranked ahead of both of them at this point.

Like I said I hope that Sam Houston State upsets Southeastern this week and makes the pollsters look smart. But believe me when I tell you that it WOULD be an upset.

TribeFanInNC · Post by **TribeFanInNC** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:17 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:No one should be ahead of NAU

Even the Bison?

formerEag · Post by **formerEag** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:29 pm

Eastern Washington should be number 2....

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