Mutiny at Grambling

[tampajag]

That link is awful... what a **** up university.

I've been saying that for years

[clenz]

Link to an article on the firing

http://rolandmartinreports.com/blog/201 ... tate-univ/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Cap'n Cat]

Would love to sit down with a case of beer, some green and D1B and just laugh our way through the transcripts and grade reports for Grambling football players.

[MrTitleist]

A little more info on Grambling's firing of the newspaper folks: http://www.collegemediamatters.com/2013 ... ball-mess/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[dbackjon]

A little more info on Grambling's firing of the newspaper folks: http://www.collegemediamatters.com/2013 ... ball-mess/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sounds like something the NCAA would do - Alabama has recruiting violations so we are putting UAB on probation.

[JohnStOnge]

Why the **** is that needed? How the hell is it funded? I can tell you right now that as an outsider that has google at my finger tips that outside of about 6 of them it's not.

I was born and raised in Louisiana and always liked the fact that no matter where you live there there is a 4-year university nearby. I moved to Georgia, my wife wanted to go back to school, and it wasn't like that. I always thought that having a "commuter school" within easy distance is a good thing.

HOWEVER. There are places where there are more than one 4 year university nearby and Grambling is one of them.

I WILL say that another thing that complicates the situation is that when I graduated high school in 1975 you could go to any University of Louisiana system school. If you graduated high school they would accept you and give you a shot. Now, because of asinine University rating systems, they don't do that anymore. So you have a situation whereby, for instance, a student might not be able to get into Louisiana Tech in Ruston but can get into Grambling about 5 miles away.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Buses still empty...

http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/2013 ... ck_check=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

at least none of them had to ride at the back of the bus...........

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I know it's got a lot of tradition and all but the State needs to just close Grambling. It was necessary in another time but it's really not even needed anymore. And it's a horror show.

And where would these other students go??

To any of the other hundreds of colleges or universities in the USA

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

OMG if I was one of those players I too would rebel!!!!!!

I dont doubt it and thats why they are in the position they are in.

They had the weekend off, if they really cared about their facilities they would have grabbed a mop and bucket and cleaned up the place. Do you have any idea how inexpensive it is to reupholster that weight bench in the locker room? You could probably find the change to do that in the local Wal Mart parking lot.

But its probably a better idea to sit there and claim victim status and wait for somebody else to give you another unearned handout. When somebody gives you lemons, whatever you do dont put any effort into making lemonade or any of the other dozens of ideas that come along with it.

[bluehenbillk]

Personally I hope these kids get blown out in their remaining games. Pitiful.

[DSUrocks07]

OMG if I was one of those players I too would rebel!!!!!!

I dont doubt it and thats why they are in the position they are in.

They had the weekend off, if they really cared about their facilities they would have grabbed a mop and bucket and cleaned up the place. Do you have any idea how inexpensive it is to reupholster that weight bench in the locker room? You could probably find the change to do that in the local Wal Mart parking lot.

But its probably a better idea to sit there and claim victim status and wait for somebody else to give you another unearned handout. When somebody gives you lemons, whatever you do dont put any effort into making lemonade or any of the other dozens of ideas that come along with it.

Grambling should shut down their program. That's what needs to happen.

[DSUrocks07]

OMG if I was one of those players I too would rebel!!!!!!

I dont doubt it and thats why they are in the position they are in.

They had the weekend off, if they really cared about their facilities they would have grabbed a mop and bucket and cleaned up the place. Do you have any idea how inexpensive it is to reupholster that weight bench in the locker room? You could probably find the change to do that in the local Wal Mart parking lot.

But its probably a better idea to sit there and claim victim status and wait for somebody else to give you another unearned handout. When somebody gives you lemons, whatever you do dont put any effort into making lemonade or any of the other dozens of ideas that come along with it.

How many Montana players clean up the facilities and reupholster the weight benches? You can save money on custodial services that way, just get the football players to do it.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I dont doubt it and thats why they are in the position they are in.

They had the weekend off, if they really cared about their facilities they would have grabbed a mop and bucket and cleaned up the place. Do you have any idea how inexpensive it is to reupholster that weight bench in the locker room? You could probably find the change to do that in the local Wal Mart parking lot.

But its probably a better idea to sit there and claim victim status and wait for somebody else to give you another unearned handout. When somebody gives you lemons, whatever you do dont put any effort into making lemonade or any of the other dozens of ideas that come along with it.

How many Montana players clean up the facilities and reupholster the weight benches? You can save money on custodial services that way, just get the football players to do it.

Thats not the point, I would be willing to bet you that if we were crying about money and facilities I would hope one of the LEADERS in the athletic department would figure something out instead of quitting and crying for a handout. Maybe its just the way we were raised but if something I have to use isnt clean...I clean it up for me regardless if there is a janitor or not.

[DSUrocks07]

How many Montana players clean up the facilities and reupholster the weight benches? You can save money on custodial services that way, just get the football players to do it.

Thats not the point, I would be willing to bet you that if we were crying about money and facilities I would hope one of the LEADERS in the athletic department would figure something out instead of quitting and crying for a handout. Maybe its just the way we were raised but if something I have to use isnt clean...I clean it up for me regardless if there is a janitor or not.

But that IS the point, Grambling has no leadership. The Prez and AD just told them to go **** themselves and suck it up. So the players said suck on this. Why should they be forced to clean it up just to let the administration off the hook?

Like I said, Grambling's football program should be shut down, the school doesn't deserve to have one. Nobody ever talks about the responsibilities the school bears when fielding a program, just and open field and some stands and that's it right? Oh and don't forget the ticket office as well. Gotta keep that revenue coming in.

[tampajag]

Personally I hope these kids get blown out in their remaining games. Pitiful.

I know of one game I hope they get the clock busted on them.

[Ibanez]

Why the **** is that needed? How the hell is it funded? I can tell you right now that as an outsider that has google at my finger tips that outside of about 6 of them it's not.

I was born and raised in Louisiana and always liked the fact that no matter where you live there there is a 4-year university nearby. I moved to Georgia, my wife wanted to go back to school, and it wasn't like that. I always thought that having a "commuter school" within easy distance is a good thing.

HOWEVER. There are places where there are more than one 4 year university nearby and Grambling is one of them.

I WILL say that another thing that complicates the situation is that when I graduated high school in 1975 you could go to any University of Louisiana system school. If you graduated high school they would accept you and give you a shot. Now, because of asinine University rating systems, they don't do that anymore. So you have a situation whereby, for instance, a student might not be able to get into Louisiana Tech in Ruston but can get into Grambling about 5 miles away.

Student quality matters. There are 3, 4-yr schools in Charleston and a Medical universtiy. I got accepted to Charleston Southern and The Citadel. College of Charleston wanted me to take extra courses before being considered for acceptance.

[kalm]

Thats not the point, I would be willing to bet you that if we were crying about money and facilities I would hope one of the LEADERS in the athletic department would figure something out instead of quitting and crying for a handout. Maybe its just the way we were raised but if something I have to use isnt clean...I clean it up for me regardless if there is a janitor or not.

But that IS the point, Grambling has no leadership. The Prez and AD just told them to go **** themselves and suck it up. So the players said suck on this. Why should they be forced to clean it up just to let the administration off the hook?

Like I said, Grambling's football program should be shut down, the school doesn't deserve to have one. Nobody ever talks about the responsibilities the school bears when fielding a program, just and open field and some stands and that's it right? Oh and don't forget the ticket office as well. Gotta keep that revenue coming in.

They shouldn't be forced but they could do it out of pride.

[LeadBolt]

Thats not the point, I would be willing to bet you that if we were crying about money and facilities I would hope one of the LEADERS in the athletic department would figure something out instead of quitting and crying for a handout. Maybe its just the way we were raised but if something I have to use isnt clean...I clean it up for me regardless if there is a janitor or not.

But that IS the point, Grambling has no leadership. The Prez and AD just told them to go **** themselves and suck it up. So the players said suck on this. Why should they be forced to clean it up just to let the administration off the hook?

Like I said, Grambling's football program should be shut down, the school doesn't deserve to have one. Nobody ever talks about the responsibilities the school bears when fielding a program, just and open field and some stands and that's it right? Oh and don't forget the ticket office as well. Gotta keep that revenue coming in.

The President, AD, athletic administrative staff and Coaching Staff should have scheduled a time last weekend that they were going to go to the facilities to volunteer to clean things up and invite the players to join them on a volunteer plan.

The leadership should have passed the hat and chipped in what they could to fix things and let the players decide on how it should be spent. It would be far from what was needed, but a beginning turning things around.

[JayJ79]

Personally I hope these kids get blown out in their remaining games. Pitiful.

they got blown out in most of the 7 games they did play this season. so what's new?

[dal4018]

OMG if I was one of those players I too would rebel!!!!!!

I dont doubt it and thats why they are in the position they are in.

They had the weekend off, if they really cared about their facilities they would have grabbed a mop and bucket and cleaned up the place. Do you have any idea how inexpensive it is to reupholster that weight bench in the locker room? You could probably find the change to do that in the local Wal Mart parking lot.

But its probably a better idea to sit there and claim victim status and wait for somebody else to give you another unearned handout. When somebody gives you lemons, whatever you do dont put any effort into making lemonade or any of the other dozens of ideas that come along with it.

They want something new Alpha the photos I saw if I were Eddie Robinson would be rolling over in my grave.Doug Williams came out of his own pocket to try and buy new equipment but the administration removed the new equipment he brought.Everson Walls another well known Grambling alum said this problem has been around for quite sometime.

[BlackFalkin]

I'd walk out too if they made me sit on a bus for 12 hours during a regular season game.

This is Division I football. Jeez

Exactly. They bus to EVERY game! (According to my friend who played for prairie view) that's ridiculous.

[dbackjon]

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GRAMBLING GUILT

After they have entered the 145,000-square foot Oregon Football Performance Center, walked across the Nepalese rugs, worked out on the Brazilian hardwood floors of the weight room and sank into the Italian leather couches in the players lounge, you wonder: do the Ducks know about the guys at Grambling? Have they heard about the Tigers' moldy locker room and the weight room with the damaged floors?

Before playing Washington State on Saturday, when they pulled on their seventh different uniform combination in seven games, did the Ducks consider the plight of the Grambling players? Could they possibly relate to the guys who were getting staph infections from wearing the same, unwashed uniforms over and over?

When they take their next chartered flight to a road game, will the Ducks sympathize with the Tigers who rode buses from Louisiana to Indianapolis for a game, and from Louisiana to Kansas City for another?

Oregon (2) and Grambling (3) both play college football, at least in name. The players are the same age. The rules of the game are the same. But beyond that they have nothing in common, as the obscenely bloated high end of the sport continues to lose touch with the paupers at the other end of the Division I spectrum.

The gulf between the Haves and Have-Nots is an American societal issue more than anything else – but this is the sporting manifestation of it, and this is a sports column. It took a player strike and a forfeited game at a traditionally proud football program for most of America to notice, but the Tigers have gotten our attention.

The sadness of their situation should at least cause a twinge of guilt among all those who bathe in excess at the elite level of college football. Yes, everyone.

The commissioners, university presidents and athletic directors who tore apart rivalries and regional sensibility to realign for more TV revenue. The TV execs who would schedule games at midnight on Mars if they could make a buck. The coaches who are making tens of thousands of dollars in bonus money for such lofty accomplishments as league victories, bowl eligibility and a decent team grade-point average. The players who complain about "exploitation" while pocketing money from agents and boosters behind the scenes. The fans who spend huge sums of money to support the football team but not the educational mission of their favorite school.

And the media members who complain when their free parking isn't close enough to the stadium, their free press-box meal isn't good enough or their luxury hotel at a BCS bowl is inconveniently located. The Dash included.

[Related: Grambling State players end boycott, return to practice]

We've become desensitized to the silliness of conspicuous consumption in college football. Is there anything in athletics more nonsensical than buying foosball tables from Barcelona for the facility at Oregon? Do the chief tenants of the building, ages 18 to 22 and there to play football, notice or care where their play toys come from? Would it cost the Ducks a commitment from a foosball aficionado or an interior design major if the tables were from a local department store?

But because Oregon's facility is hailed as the latest and perhaps greatest recruiting advantage, others at the elite end of the spectrum will hustle to catch up. Alabama's facility has a waterfall now, and 10-foot tall replicas of the school's most recent championship rings. Tennessee's plans for a $45 million football facility were altered midstream by then-coach Derek Dooley to include $9 million in adjustments from another consultant. The reason, according to Dooley: "If (recruits) don't go wow, then we hadn't done our job."


Well, of course. Because there is no such thing as "enough." Our sense of proportion has been lost, or at least subverted by the notion that victory justifies everything. If ridiculous indulgence is a byproduct of winner-take-all competition, not many people seem to have a problem with that. More seem to celebrate it than question it.

It's not up to Oregon – or Alabama, or Tennessee – to fix what ails Grambling. (Though you wonder whether Ducks sugar daddy Phil Knight, who has done more than any man to ramp up the college sports arms race, could spare a dime to help the school with a set of uniforms.) But everyone at the affluent end of the sport should take note of what's happening at Grambling, and we should all feel a little bit dirty today.

[YoUDeeMan]

doing all this for a man that'll leave at the drop of a hat

Maybe they are all just girls?

[YoUDeeMan]

It's not up to Oregon – or Alabama, or Tennessee – to fix what ails Grambling. (Though you wonder whether Ducks sugar daddy Phil Knight, who has done more than any man to ramp up the college sports arms race, could spare a dime to help the school with a set of uniforms.) But everyone at the affluent end of the sport should take note of what's happening at Grambling, and we should all feel a little bit dirty today.

Nonsense.

Businesses fail everywhere in America...and new ones sprout up.

Does McDonald's pass money on to Mom and Pop's Burger Palace? Does anyone feel dirty when shopping at the regional supermarket versus some small, one-of-a-kind family grocery store?

Grambling's business is poorly managed, management is full of clowns and/or thieves, and the business should be allowed to fail. any funding from the state should be withdrawn and better used in the other area school systems.

Use Grambling's land as a public park.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

It's not up to Oregon – or Alabama, or Tennessee – to fix what ails Grambling. (Though you wonder whether Ducks sugar daddy Phil Knight, who has done more than any man to ramp up the college sports arms race, could spare a dime to help the school with a set of uniforms.) But everyone at the affluent end of the sport should take note of what's happening at Grambling, and we should all feel a little bit dirty today.

Nonsense.

Businesses fail everywhere in America...and new ones sprout up.

Does McDonald's pass money on to Mom and Pop's Burger Palace? Does anyone feel dirty when shopping at the regional supermarket versus some small, one-of-a-kind family grocery store?

Grambling's business is poorly managed, management is full of clowns and/or thieves, and the business should be allowed to fail. any funding from the state should be withdrawn and better used in the other area school systems.

Use Grambling's land as a public park.

So fu*king spot on!

Deal with it, its life and its definitely not fair.....especially if you are white and work for a living.