Montana v. Cal Poly

[Grizalltheway]

No hats off to Montana.. sorry.

The refs blew this game- Cal Poly controlled it the entire game.

We got fucked in the A$$ by the refs.

Completely unsurprising that you're a sore loser, expandableasshole.

[Grizalltheway]

Here are my thoughts(Some random) on the game and congrats to CP for playing a hard fought game.

1) The only ref call that was horrible (And should be reviewed by the conference for discipline!) is the CP fumble, it wasn't a fumble at all, period. I don't think it changed the game at all as we quickly went 4 and out, turning it over on downs. It changed field position very little, much different than any other simple 5 or 10 yard penalty would. If we had scored here, this most certainly could have changed the outcome. Grats to CP for standing stong on D and getting the ball back.

2) Our offensive needs a lot of work. They just don't seem to have the heart sometimes to really want it and I don't see it getting better. The O-Line needs to step up and stop getting pushed around. I don't remember what exact play it was in the game chronology but the 4th down attempt where they lost 3 or 4 yards ought to be embarrassing. I have zero problems going for it but for Christ's sake, please try and get it with a little more effort than that play.

3) Our defense can and should improve. It won us the game today and overall they played good but we sure give up a lot of yards.

4) Cal Poly is a pretty good team and we are lucky to have gotten a W today. They certainly aren't the scheduled W from years back.

5) We will get our asses handed to us next Saturday if we play this way. Not sure if I will be able to stomach it in person.

We're still averaging 40 points per game. The offense will be fine.

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

Here are my thoughts(Some random) on the game and congrats to CP for playing a hard fought game.

1) The only ref call that was horrible (And should be reviewed by the conference for discipline!) is the CP fumble, it wasn't a fumble at all, period. I don't think it changed the game at all as we quickly went 4 and out, turning it over on downs. It changed field position very little, much different than any other simple 5 or 10 yard penalty would. If we had scored here, this most certainly could have changed the outcome. Grats to CP for standing stong on D and getting the ball back.

2) Our offensive needs a lot of work. They just don't seem to have the heart sometimes to really want it and I don't see it getting better. The O-Line needs to step up and stop getting pushed around. I don't remember what exact play it was in the game chronology but the 4th down attempt where they lost 3 or 4 yards ought to be embarrassing. I have zero problems going for it but for Christ's sake, please try and get it with a little more effort than that play.

3) Our defense can and should improve. It won us the game today and overall they played good but we sure give up a lot of yards.

4) Cal Poly is a pretty good team and we are lucky to have gotten a W today. They certainly aren't the scheduled W from years back.

5) We will get our asses handed to us next Saturday if we play this way. Not sure if I will be able to stomach it in person.

We're still averaging 40 points per game. The offense will be fine.

I hope you are right. My worry is they seem to fold up more than the D does when we play good teams. We have the players to be just fine, we just have to get it together when we play good teams. Saturdays performance will not get us a W next Saturday IMHO.

[Grizalltheway]

We're still averaging 40 points per game. The offense will be fine.

I hope you are right. My worry is they seem to fold up more than the D does when we play good teams. We have the players to be just fine, we just have to get it together when we play good teams. Saturdays performance will not get us a W next Saturday IMHO.

Definitely agree with your last sentence, and there's no doubt the O needs to work on being more consistent.

[Robsnotes4u]

What calls other than that the fumble and the defensive mugging by CP, affected the game?
Please list.

And the fumble didn't even affect the game, since the Griz squandered that opportunity.



This game was looking a lot like the 2010 loss to the Bobcats, but ended up looking very similar to the 2006 win over CP instead.

Pulling a win out of one's ass is still better than not pulling out a win at all…

You are only looking at half the equation. It stopped Cal Poly's possession which could have ended in a score and took more time off the clock. So it definitely affects the game. A field goal, a TD or just a clocking eating drive were huge opportunities missed because a pathetic call.


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[AZGrizFan]

And the fumble didn't even affect the game, since the Griz squandered that opportunity.



This game was looking a lot like the 2010 loss to the Bobcats, but ended up looking very similar to the 2006 win over CP instead.

Pulling a win out of one's ass is still better than not pulling out a win at all…

You are only looking at half the equation. It stopped Cal Poly's possession which could have ended in a score and took more time off the clock. So it definitely affects the game. A field goal, a TD or just a clocking eating drive were huge opportunities missed because a pathetic call.


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CP could have won the game with their blocked FG. They could have won the game if they just hadn't gone to a Prevent-Win defense the last two minutes. They could have won the game if they'd stopped the Griz on 4th & 2. They had plenty of opportunities to win the game...should we all bitch about the flag that was picked up because the pass was ruled uncatchable, when in reality it was uncatchable BECAUSE the defender held our WR so he couldn't get anywhere near the ball?

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

And the fumble didn't even affect the game, since the Griz squandered that opportunity.



This game was looking a lot like the 2010 loss to the Bobcats, but ended up looking very similar to the 2006 win over CP instead.

Pulling a win out of one's ass is still better than not pulling out a win at all…

You are only looking at half the equation. It stopped Cal Poly's possession which could have ended in a score and took more time off the clock. So it definitely affects the game. A field goal, a TD or just a clocking eating drive were huge opportunities missed because a pathetic call.


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I know it was a TERRIBLE call and completely wrong, but that one bad call didn't change the game IMHO. CP lost 1:30 seconds and 7 yards. Fumble was at 9:41 @ 35 yard line. We gained 7 yards and turned it over on downs @ the 28 with 8:11 to go. This is not the game changer, while being a horrible call, I fail to see how it hurt them.

[Bronco]

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I noticed that not one Poly player or coach or anyone on their side line had on any pink.

Good for them

We had it on and they out hit us for most of the game

Coaches always told me to "stay away from the pink it will make your legs weak"

[uofmman1122]

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I noticed that not one Poly player or coach or anyone on their side line had on any pink.

Good for them

We had it on and they out hit us for most of the game

Coaches always told me to "stay away from the pink it will make your legs weak"

Good for you, tough guy.

Gotta say though, was I the only one that thought that breast cancer sap story video was a little much? Like, I know it's a big issue and it's important, but talk about a let-down right before a big game.

[Robsnotes4u]

You are only looking at half the equation. It stopped Cal Poly's possession which could have ended in a score and took more time off the clock. So it definitely affects the game. A field goal, a TD or just a clocking eating drive were huge opportunities missed because a pathetic call.


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I know it was a TERRIBLE call and completely wrong, but that one bad call didn't change the game IMHO. CP lost 1:30 seconds and 7 yards. Fumble was at 9:41 @ 35 yard line. We gained 7 yards and turned it over on downs @ the 28 with 8:11 to go. This is not the game changer, while being a horrible call, I fail to see how it hurt them.

I respect your opinion, and I will ask you this. How is the physiology of a team after a lost fumble versus getting a first down? Wouldn't you agree there is a shift in momentum?

Losing a fumble is bad enough, add on the bad call that causes the turnover and it is gets worse.

Cal Poly still had chances to win. Special teams won the game for the Griz a blocked punt and field goal . They should have been the players of the game not the QB.

This next weekend is going to be interesting. Still three tough games left with USD playing good with their new QB.


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[uofmman1122]

This next weekend is going to be interesting. Still three tough games left with USD playing good with their new QB.

This.

I wasn't worried about USD, but now I have no idea.

Joe Glenn is a damn good coach.

[Mvemjsunpx]

And the fumble didn't even affect the game, since the Griz squandered that opportunity.



This game was looking a lot like the 2010 loss to the Bobcats, but ended up looking very similar to the 2006 win over CP instead.

Pulling a win out of one's ass is still better than not pulling out a win at all…

You are only looking at half the equation. It stopped Cal Poly's possession which could have ended in a score and took more time off the clock. So it definitely affects the game. A field goal, a TD or just a clocking eating drive were huge opportunities missed because a pathetic call.

Um… no. You don't know what you're talking about.

CP was at the beginning of their drive and had a 1st. & 20 in their own territory when they "fumbled." The Griz immediately turned it over on downs & gave it right back to them at pretty much the same exact spot they left it. It affected nothing. More clock ran off that way than it would've if CP never lost it, because UM ran 4 plays that amounted to nothing.

[Robsnotes4u]

You are only looking at half the equation. It stopped Cal Poly's possession which could have ended in a score and took more time off the clock. So it definitely affects the game. A field goal, a TD or just a clocking eating drive were huge opportunities missed because a pathetic call.

Um… no. You don't know what you're talking about.

CP was at the beginning of their drive and had a 1st. & 20 in their own territory when they "fumbled." The Griz immediately turned it over on downs & gave it right back to them at pretty much the same exact spot they left it. It affected nothing. More clock ran off that way than it would've if CP never lost it, because UM ran 4 plays that amounted to nothing.

Read post 60. I know exactly what am talking about, again you are only looking a piece of the picture.


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[uofmman1122]

Um… no. You don't know what you're talking about.

CP was at the beginning of their drive and had a 1st. & 20 in their own territory when they "fumbled." The Griz immediately turned it over on downs & gave it right back to them at pretty much the same exact spot they left it. It affected nothing. More clock ran off that way than it would've if CP never lost it, because UM ran 4 plays that amounted to nothing.

Read post 60. I know exactly what am talking about, again you are only looking a piece of the picture.


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Dude, you're arguing just for the sake of arguing (and because you're combative against Griz fans).

You're arguing a completely hypothetical situation. Saying "it affected the game because Cal Poly could have gone down and scored" is equally as redundant and stupid as me saying "they got a break with the fumble because they could have thrown a pick-six on the next play".

Based on what actually happened, it affected nothing about the outcome. They wanted the clock to run down, and we gave it back to them in the exact same spot they were at with less time than had they ran plays themselves. If anything, it helped them.

They still had a chance to go down and make it a two-score game, and couldn't.

[AZGrizFan]

Read post 60. I know exactly what am talking about, again you are only looking a piece of the picture.


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Dude, you're arguing just for the sake of arguing (and because you're combative against Griz fans).

You're arguing a completely hypothetical situation. Saying "it affected the game because Cal Poly could have gone down and scored" is equally as redundant and stupid as me saying "they got a break with the fumble because they could have thrown a pick-six on the next play".

Based on what actually happened, it affected nothing about the outcome. They wanted the clock to run down, and we gave it back to them in the exact same spot they were at with less time than had they ran plays themselves. If anything, it helped them.

They still had a chance to go down and make it a two-score game, and couldn't.

Exactly. It wasn't like we drove it down to the two and THEN gave it back to them. I mean, that would NEVER happen, would it?

[expandspanos]

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[SloStang]

Dude, you're arguing just for the sake of arguing (and because you're combative against Griz fans).

You're arguing a completely hypothetical situation. Saying "it affected the game because Cal Poly could have gone down and scored" is equally as redundant and stupid as me saying "they got a break with the fumble because they could have thrown a pick-six on the next play".

Based on what actually happened, it affected nothing about the outcome. They wanted the clock to run down, and we gave it back to them in the exact same spot they were at with less time than had they ran plays themselves. If anything, it helped them.

They still had a chance to go down and make it a two-score game, and couldn't.

Exactly. It wasn't like we drove it down to the two and THEN gave it back to them. I mean, that would NEVER happen, would it?

The difference is Cal Poly stopped Montana at the two not the refs.

[Grizzlies1982]

No hats off to Montana.. sorry.

The refs blew this game- Cal Poly controlled it the entire game.

We got **** in the A$$ by the refs.

The refs did seem oblivious to the frequent Cal Poly holding. Then the refs did make Poly use that odd line formation which enabled the block punt... Not sure how they figured into the blocked field goal but certain they were a factor.




Cal Poly's QB, backs, and especially their line on both sides of the ball deserve credit for playing a heck of a game. They demonstrated a powerful ground and pound attack, and completely removed MT's running game.

[AZGrizFan]

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Well thank god we have the ability to have instant replay, slow motion, and stop-frame analysis. Too bad the refs don't have that.

[SloStang]

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The first and third plays were bad calls. The second one was not. A WR coming from the outside in can not block below the waist on a crack back. It was call for and against Cal Poly in the Portland a State game. Good call. Too bad because Cal Poly would have got the first without that block and even a FG there would have been huge.

[AZGrizFan]

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The first and third plays were bad calls. The second one was not. A WR coming from the outside in can not block below the waist on a crack back. It was call for and against Cal Poly in the Portland a State game. Good call. Too bad because Cal Poly would have got the first without that block and even a FG there would have been huge.

So, if I have expando's logic correct:

A fumble that accomplished nothing (and in fact worked in CP's FAVOR by burning additional time off the clock), an illegal crack-back block that was called correctly by the refs and one other call are what caused CP to lose the game?

It wasn't because they went to a prevent-win defense? It wasn't because they allowed a punt to be blocked, resulting in a short-field TD for the Griz? It wasn't because they allowed their game-clinching FG to be blocked? It wasn't because they weren't smart enough to chose the SEZ to play the OT in? It wasn't because they weren't smart enough to put their offense out on the field, given that their defense had just given up an 88 yard drive to allow the game to be tied?

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The first and third plays were bad calls. The second one was not. A WR coming from the outside in can not block below the waist on a crack back. It was call for and against Cal Poly in the Portland a State game. Good call. Too bad because Cal Poly would have got the first without that block and even a FG there would have been huge.

I was not aware of that.. I thought cut blocking was legal within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage... my bad.

However, the 1st and 3rd plays definitely turned the game.

[expandspanos]

The first and third plays were bad calls. The second one was not. A WR coming from the outside in can not block below the waist on a crack back. It was call for and against Cal Poly in the Portland a State game. Good call. Too bad because Cal Poly would have got the first without that block and even a FG there would have been huge.

So, if I have expando's logic correct:

A fumble that accomplished nothing (and in fact worked in CP's FAVOR by burning additional time off the clock), an illegal crack-back block that was called correctly by the refs and one other call are what caused CP to lose the game?

It wasn't because they went to a prevent-win defense? It wasn't because they allowed a punt to be blocked, resulting in a short-field TD for the Griz? It wasn't because they allowed their game-clinching FG to be blocked? It wasn't because they weren't smart enough to chose the SEZ to play the OT in? It wasn't because they weren't smart enough to put their offense out on the field, given that their defense had just given up an 88 yard drive to allow the game to be tied?

Hey Griz Fan: You're saying that's a "Montana Fumble"? Where someone's knee and whole side of body are clearly on the ground before the ball comes loose?

[uofmman1122]

So, if I have expando's logic correct:

A fumble that accomplished nothing (and in fact worked in CP's FAVOR by burning additional time off the clock), an illegal crack-back block that was called correctly by the refs and one other call are what caused CP to lose the game?

It wasn't because they went to a prevent-win defense? It wasn't because they allowed a punt to be blocked, resulting in a short-field TD for the Griz? It wasn't because they allowed their game-clinching FG to be blocked? It wasn't because they weren't smart enough to chose the SEZ to play the OT in? It wasn't because they weren't smart enough to put their offense out on the field, given that their defense had just given up an 88 yard drive to allow the game to be tied?

Hey Griz Fan: You're saying that's a "Montana Fumble"? Where someone's knee and whole side of body are clearly on the ground before the ball comes loose?

It was a bad call, but it did absolutely nothing to affect the outcome of the game.

It may have well not have even happened.

[CPAlum]

You can say bad calls are part of the game... You can say bad calls go both ways but you can't say those calls didn't affect the game.

Well actually you can but you'd be wrong