Mutiny at Grambling

[DSUrocks07]

Pretty good write up on the situation by SI.com

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/colleg ... z2i7eiPTLf

Deadspin delves into the political side of things

http://deadspin.com/whats-behind-the-gr ... 1447273282

[DSUrocks07]

If I'm Jax State I'm getting the next two games at home or I'm suing. That's if Grambling still exists.

fify

Gram football has been the cash cow that been sustaining the entire athletic department...you could even argue that it keeps the doors open on the school itself.

It's taboo to even bring it up as a possibility in HBCU circles, but La Tech is REALLY close by...

[SuperHornet]

? for clenz: So this gets recorded as a 1-0 win for Grambling's scheduled opponent, correct?

I think forfeit wins are marked as 2-0

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That might be right. But I'll take it as gospel truth if our resident officiating expert vouches for it. He definitely knows his rules backwards and forwards, and the sport doesn't seem to matter.

[clenz]

2-0...lowest possible score is given

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[SuperHornet]

Thank you, clenz. Perhaps I was thinking of Canada....

[grizzaholic]

Thank you, clenz. Perhaps I was thinking of Canada....

Canada???? They don't offer any girls rugby up there...do they?

[dal4018]

Grambling forfeiting tomorrow...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1814 ... g-national" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Terrible. They should just cancel the season & these kids scholarships too. These kids DON'T deserve to play on national TV Thanksgiving weekend. Sends the wrong message "when the going gets tough...quit".

I'd say its a little more than being tough. Especially when they the facilities are filthy and in some cases unsafe, withholding meals from the players so that the admin can keep that little bit of extra money, etc.

Coach Williams raised PRIVATE money to replace unsafe mats in the weight room and bought the mats himself. Once the Grambling admin found out, they put the unsafe mats back in the weight room and ordered the new ones be locked up in storage since the money wasn't given to the administration to make the purchase.

When you're coach has to basically go in pocket to make the facilities at least somewhat safe, and the Administration throws a hissy-fit because they weren't involved, its a problem.

Yes, playing football is a privilege...but also for the schools as well. But nobody wants to talk about that.

This is why Williams left the first time inferior material!!!! This is the first time in yrs Grambling was mentioned on ESPN.

[tampajag]

First time Doug left was for money, everybody who wasn't a Grambling fan knew he wouldn't stay. That's his track record, did it all the other three places he coached. He came back because he got fired from the Bucs and couldn't get the Southern job in 2010.

[JohnStOnge]

I know it's got a lot of tradition and all but the State needs to just close Grambling. It was necessary in another time but it's really not even needed anymore. And it's a horror show.

[dal4018]

First time Doug left was for money, everybody who wasn't a Grambling fan knew he wouldn't stay. That's his track record, did it all the other three places he coached. He came back because he got fired from the Bucs and couldn't get the Southern job in 2010.

Why did he get fired as personnel manager with the Bucs bad decisions!?!? Why would Southern want him as HC??? As stated before he wanted better facilities as well but the admin said no.The weightlifting room &equiptment was beyond outdated!!!

[dal4018]

I know it's got a lot of tradition and all but the State needs to just close Grambling. It was necessary in another time but it's really not even needed anymore. And it's a horror show.

And where would these other students go??

[DSUrocks07]

2-0...lowest possible score is given

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Better write ESPN an email then

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/conversat ... =332922296

[DSUrocks07]

2-0...lowest possible score is given

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Better write ESPN an email then

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/conversat ... =332922296

EDIT: NCAA rules now says that forfeits in football are scored 1-0 now

2012-13 NCAA STATISTICS' POLICIES & GUIDELINES (PDF)

On Page 6

[JayJ79]

right now, the game is listed as "cancelled". I wonder if/when it will be officially deemed a forfeit.

[DSUrocks07]

[JohnStOnge]

And where would these other students go??

There are eight other University of Louisiana System universities including three in North Louisiana. Plus there's the LSU system. They'd have places they could go.

[dbackjon]

I know it's got a lot of tradition and all but the State needs to just close Grambling. It was necessary in another time but it's really not even needed anymore. And it's a horror show.

And where would these other students go??

La Tech is 6 miles away
UL-M is 30 miles away
Southern has a campus in Shreveport, as well as main campus in Baton Rouge and another campus in New Orleans.

Louisiana has too many universities for their size and population - both HBCU and PWC. Same with Mississippi

[clenz]

And where would these other students go??

La Tech is 6 miles away
UL-M is 30 miles away
Southern has a campus in Shreveport, as well as main campus in Baton Rouge and another campus in New Orleans.

Louisiana has too many universities for their size and population - both HBCU and PWC. Same with Mississippi

I'm sure I'll get blasted for this....and I don't know the academics of LT or ULM....but....would a lot of the students qualify at those universities?

I don't mean that as a slam at Grambling, or the students, however it could be a real "concern"

[dbackjon]

La Tech is 6 miles away
UL-M is 30 miles away
Southern has a campus in Shreveport, as well as main campus in Baton Rouge and another campus in New Orleans.

Louisiana has too many universities for their size and population - both HBCU and PWC. Same with Mississippi

I'm sure I'll get blasted for this....and I don't know the academics of LT or ULM....but....would a lot of the students qualify at those universities?

I don't mean that as a slam at Grambling, or the students, however it could be a real "concern"

It probably would be a concern. Moreso at LaTech than UL-M. They would have to do some type of programs to transition them.

[dal4018]

The players wrote a letter stating that the athletic complex is in horrible condition and the uniforms are poorly cleaned and this led to players catching staph infections!!!!! Just saw this piece of info on ESPN.Eddie Rob is rolling over in his grave right now!!!!

[dal4018]

La Tech is 6 miles away
UL-M is 30 miles away
Southern has a campus in Shreveport, as well as main campus in Baton Rouge and another campus in New Orleans.

Louisiana has too many universities for their size and population - both HBCU and PWC. Same with Mississippi

I'm sure I'll get blasted for this....and I don't know the academics of LT or ULM....but....would a lot of the students qualify at those universities?

I don't mean that as a slam at Grambling, or the students, however it could be a real "concern"

I just hope they are doing well in the classroom.

[tampajag]

One of the SU system boardmembers has been pushing for Grambling to be a part of our system. Maybe its time.

[tampajag]

First time Doug left was for money, everybody who wasn't a Grambling fan knew he wouldn't stay. That's his track record, did it all the other three places he coached. He came back because he got fired from the Bucs and couldn't get the Southern job in 2010.

Why did he get fired as personnel manager with the Bucs bad decisions!?!? Why would Southern want him as HC??? As stated before he wanted better facilities as well but the admin said no.The weightlifting room &equiptment was beyond outdated!!!

He got let go when they made changes in the front office. Some people in power at SU love Doug and the feeling is likewise from him.

[DSUrocks07]

One of the SU system boardmembers has been pushing for Grambling to be a part of our system. Maybe its time.

Southern does seem to be in a much better position across the board than Grambling does. At least from the outside looking in.

[tampajag]

One of the SU system boardmembers has been pushing for Grambling to be a part of our system. Maybe its time.

Southern does seem to be in a much better position across the board than Grambling does. At least from the outside looking in.

We've had our problems but nothing to this level. Being in the capital city has its advantages.