blueballs wrote:It was designed to fail from jump street... all it is is foreplay for a single payer (totally govt run) system.Chizzang wrote:All of this:
Soon to collapse and demise of 1/6th of the economy is conjecture
However, that said it does seem like some significant revisions need to be addressed for everybody's sake
Where Obama will fail (in my estimation) is not the launching of a new Healthcare system
But in the not letting it get revised and updated properly to meet its flaws
we needed a new system
and nobody previously had the strength or balls to launch it
Now we need to "revise as we go" to make sure it's functional and properly developed
This will not happen
and this is where Obama will likely fail
Not in the launch and ambition - but in the second half of the game
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Nobody is saying that he current healthcare system doesn't need an overhaul. But this is ridiculous and at the wrong time.Grizalltheway wrote:Says the moron who actually thinkgs we should have kept the healthcare system as it was.AZGrizFan wrote:
It's because of morons like you that I'm actually GLAD we didn't defund Obamacare. Can't wait to see it collapse under it's own weight.![]()
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Which isn't even close to what I said...but I wouldn't expect you to understand that. Go back to the fry cooker...there's a line at the drive thru.Grizalltheway wrote:Says the moron who actually thinkgs we should have kept the healthcare system as it was.AZGrizFan wrote:
It's because of morons like you that I'm actually GLAD we didn't defund Obamacare. Can't wait to see it collapse under it's own weight.![]()
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AZGrizFan wrote:Which isn't even close to what I said...but I wouldn't expect you to understand that. Go back to the fry cooker...there's a line at the drive thru.Grizalltheway wrote:
Says the moron who actually thinkgs we should have kept the healthcare system as it was.![]()
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Christ, you can't even keep track of your own bullshit anymore.AZGrizFan wrote:Which isn't even close to what I said...but I wouldn't expect you to understand that. Go back to the fry cooker...there's a line at the drive thru.Grizalltheway wrote:
Says the moron who actually thinkgs we should have kept the healthcare system as it was.![]()
AZshitforbrains wrote:How about just keeping the status quo?
So you're saying that our current system is awful, but no, let's not change it, because you've bought into the Fox News talking points about how Obamacare is going to be the end of modern civilization as we know it...without any substantial, credible evidence to support such hyperbole. Keep up the good work there Mr. Potter.
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What's needed is for government to get completely out of it. Government should not be involved in trying to ensure that people get the health care they need any more than it should be involved in trying to ensure that they get the food or housing they need. This think of trying to ensure that each individual's personal needs or met is going tob e the death of this country.Nobody is saying that he current healthcare system doesn't need an overhaul.
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It's not awful. And, really, a lot of the problems associated with it are due to trying to make sure that people are ensured health care whether they can afford it or not. Like forcing emergency rooms to take everybody whether they can pay or not. That increases cost to everybody else.So you're saying that our current system is awful,
Get rid of the idea of forcing people who CAN pay to pay for people who can't. That would make it better.
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JohnStOnge wrote:It's not awful. And, really, a lot of the problems associated with it are due to trying to make sure that people are ensured health care whether they can afford it or not. Like forcing emergency rooms to take everybody whether they can pay or not. That increases cost to everybody else.So you're saying that our current system is awful,
Get rid of the idea of forcing people who CAN pay to pay for people who can't. That would make it better.
Yep, just let poor people die the streets. I'm sure that's exactly what Jesus would say.
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Secession by Texas and the South!?!?AZGrizFan wrote:Gloat all you want...we've moved that much closer to the precipice (although I don't expect you to understand even remotely what that means).
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I'm saying the pre 10/1 system is LESS fucked than Obamacare. Thus, keep the status quo until something actually BETTER is built. Is that REALLY so difficult to understand?Grizalltheway wrote:Christ, you can't even keep track of your own bullshit anymore.AZGrizFan wrote:
Which isn't even close to what I said...but I wouldn't expect you to understand that. Go back to the fry cooker...there's a line at the drive thru.![]()
AZshitforbrains wrote:How about just keeping the status quo?
So you're saying that our current system is awful, but no, let's not change it, because you've bought into the Fox News talking points about how Obamacare is going to be the end of modern civilization as we know it...without any substantial, credible evidence to support such hyperbole. Keep up the good work there Mr. Potter.
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All I can say is I'm in the right state when the shooting starts.mainejeff wrote:Secession by Texas and the South!?!?AZGrizFan wrote:Gloat all you want...we've moved that much closer to the precipice (although I don't expect you to understand even remotely what that means).![]()
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Yeah we need a system like the DOD. So we can waste 5 Billion of freaking uniformsAZGrizFan wrote:It's because of morons like you that I'm actually GLAD we didn't defund Obamacare. Can't wait to see it collapse under it's own weight.Grizalltheway wrote: Sure thing, chicken little. I'm sure BDK will save a spot for you in his bunker, as long as you're willing to put out.
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And it WILL be, Einstein. It's what the government DOES.mrklean wrote:Yeah we need a system like the DOD. So we can waste 5 Billion of freaking uniformsAZGrizFan wrote:
It's because of morons like you that I'm actually GLAD we didn't defund Obamacare. Can't wait to see it collapse under it's own weight.Or Sped over a 1/2 a Trillion dollars on a Jet(F-53) that wont work. Yeah, Obamacare needs to be run like this
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Why did it not occur to you? Harry Reid already made a public statement that it is the first step toward a single-payer system.Chizzang wrote:blueballs wrote:
It was designed to fail from jump street... all it is is foreplay for a single payer (totally govt run) system.
You might be right (that had never occurred to me)
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