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The lock and dam are replacing Lock and Dams number 53 and 52. Will reduce delays in shipping, lowering costs to all of us, and is a needed upgrade to the nation's infrastructure.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Why is that so funny? Trust me, when barge delivery costs go up, you feel it. Corn and soybeans are a major product shipped via barge, as well as rice from the Delta - when the river is too low to use barges, prices go up. Delays reduced, fuel costs reduced, prices go down.

Without our Federal Government supported infrastructure, you'd be paying a lot more for plant-based goods, such as your rice-brewed Bud Light
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Another $3billion in white collar welfare. :nod:

Very much helps farmers
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dbackjon wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Why is that so funny? Trust me, when barge delivery costs go up, you feel it. Corn and soybeans are a major product shipped via barge, as well as rice from the Delta - when the river is too low to use barges, prices go up. Delays reduced, fuel costs reduced, prices go down.

Without our Federal Government supported infrastructure, you'd be paying a lot more for plant-based goods, such as your rice-brewed Bud Light
Serious question - do you know how much barge traffic there is on this piece of the river? I ask because the Corp of Engineers is required to keep Missouri River flows sufficient to have barge traffic to Sioux City but a barge hasn't made the trip all the way to Sioux City in several years. Very few go north of Kansas City. I read somewhere that annual barge traffic on the Missouri is about the same as two days of traffic on the Mississippi. Just curious if it is actually productive or something similar.
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dbackjon wrote:
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Another $3billion in white collar welfare. :nod:

Very much helps farmers
Well they are welfare whores too.
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Re: McConnell gets nearly $3 B for KY dam project in comprom

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Another $3billion in white collar welfare. :nod:

Very much helps farmers
...and every conk on down the line. :nod:
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Why is that so funny? Trust me, when barge delivery costs go up, you feel it. Corn and soybeans are a major product shipped via barge, as well as rice from the Delta - when the river is too low to use barges, prices go up. Delays reduced, fuel costs reduced, prices go down.

Without our Federal Government supported infrastructure, you'd be paying a lot more for plant-based goods, such as your rice-brewed Bud Light
Serious question - do you know how much barge traffic there is on this piece of the river? I ask because the Corp of Engineers is required to keep Missouri River flows sufficient to have barge traffic to Sioux City but a barge hasn't made the trip all the way to Sioux City in several years. Very few go north of Kansas City. I read somewhere that annual barge traffic on the Missouri is about the same as two days of traffic on the Mississippi. Just curious if it is actually productive or something similar.

Let me look - but I imagine quite a bit. It is near the mouth of the Ohio, and after the Tennessee and Cumberland Rivers, both which are heavily traveled, empty into the Ohio.


Upstream, at Cincy, there are almost 10K per year (barges) - with the Tenn traffic in there, I would think this lock would see 15K or more per year.

Whenever I would cross that stretch of River going home from Nashville, there was always 5-7 barges in the river.
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Bigger question though - how will this benefit D1B?
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dbackjon wrote:Bigger question though - how will this benefit D1B?
Easy answer. More barges = more corn. More corn = more corn in D1B's shit in the morning. D1B plays the lotto weekly based on his daily corn count. e.g. last week's numbers of 33, 45, 12, 42, 24, 16
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blueballs wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Bigger question though - how will this benefit D1B?
Easy answer. More barges = more corn. More corn = more corn in D1B's shit in the morning. D1B plays the lotto weekly based on his daily corn count. e.g. last week's numbers of 33, 45, 12, 42, 24, 16

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dbackjon wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
Serious question - do you know how much barge traffic there is on this piece of the river? I ask because the Corp of Engineers is required to keep Missouri River flows sufficient to have barge traffic to Sioux City but a barge hasn't made the trip all the way to Sioux City in several years. Very few go north of Kansas City. I read somewhere that annual barge traffic on the Missouri is about the same as two days of traffic on the Mississippi. Just curious if it is actually productive or something similar.

Let me look - but I imagine quite a bit. It is near the mouth of the Ohio, and after the Tennessee and Cumberland Rivers, both which are heavily traveled, empty into the Ohio.


Upstream, at Cincy, there are almost 10K per year (barges) - with the Tenn traffic in there, I would think this lock would see 15K or more per year.

Whenever I would cross that stretch of River going home from Nashville, there was always 5-7 barges in the river.
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dbackjon wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Why is that so funny? Trust me, when barge delivery costs go up, you feel it. Corn and soybeans are a major product shipped via barge, as well as rice from the Delta - when the river is too low to use barges, prices go up. Delays reduced, fuel costs reduced, prices go down.

Without our Federal Government supported infrastructure, you'd be paying a lot more for plant-based goods, such as your rice-brewed Bud Light
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The lock and dam are replacing Lock and Dams number 53 and 52. Will reduce delays in shipping, lowering costs to all of us, and is a needed upgrade to the nation's infrastructure.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
In other words, McConnell at least see's through the conk uber-libertarian, limit government bullhsit. Unlike someone else we know. :lol:
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dbackjon wrote:

Why is that so funny? Trust me, when barge delivery costs go up, you feel it. Corn and soybeans are a major product shipped via barge, as well as rice from the Delta - when the river is too low to use barges, prices go up. Delays reduced, fuel costs reduced, prices go down.

Without our Federal Government supported infrastructure, you'd be paying a lot more for plant-based goods, such as your rice-brewed Bud Light
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I don't drink.

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Why is that so funny? Trust me, when barge delivery costs go up, you feel it. Corn and soybeans are a major product shipped via barge, as well as rice from the Delta - when the river is too low to use barges, prices go up. Delays reduced, fuel costs reduced, prices go down.

Without our Federal Government supported infrastructure, you'd be paying a lot more for plant-based goods, such as your rice-brewed Bud Light
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dbackjon wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Why is that so funny? Trust me, when barge delivery costs go up, you feel it. Corn and soybeans are a major product shipped via barge, as well as rice from the Delta - when the river is too low to use barges, prices go up. Delays reduced, fuel costs reduced, prices go down.

Without our Federal Government supported infrastructure, you'd be paying a lot more for plant-based goods, such as your rice-brewed Bud Light
Explain to me why barge is so important? Don't trains do a better job for cheaper? Help someone that lives in the sticks understand.
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grizzaholic wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Why is that so funny? Trust me, when barge delivery costs go up, you feel it. Corn and soybeans are a major product shipped via barge, as well as rice from the Delta - when the river is too low to use barges, prices go up. Delays reduced, fuel costs reduced, prices go down.

Without our Federal Government supported infrastructure, you'd be paying a lot more for plant-based goods, such as your rice-brewed Bud Light
Explain to me why barge is so important? Don't trains do a better job for cheaper? Help someone that lives in the sticks understand.
Transporting heavy bulk goods, like coal, grain, etc downstream is much cheaper via barge. You have a huge number of barges steered by one tug boat - on the loaded downstream trip, the river current does most of the work - the tug is needed for steering, and a little push in slack water segments


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The f*cking South continues to bankrupt America. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

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mainejeff wrote:The f*cking South continues to bankrupt America. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

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mainejeff wrote:The f*cking South continues to bankrupt America. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

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Hey, since you're being so judgemental...why don't you donate the proceeds from your 300% stock gains under Obama to people in need. :coffee:
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ASUG8 wrote:
mainejeff wrote:The f*cking South continues to bankrupt America. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

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Hey, since you're being so judgemental...why don't you donate the proceeds from your 300% stock gains under Obama to people in need. :coffee:
No f*cking way! I'm just on the Dem side because Republicans want to control who you sleep with, who you worship, and could care less about the environment. Too bad that they made their bed with religious freaks and anarchists.

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mainejeff wrote:
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Hey, since you're being so judgemental...why don't you donate the proceeds from your 300% stock gains under Obama to people in need. :coffee:
No f*cking way! I'm just on the Dem side because Republicans want to control who you sleep with, who you worship, and could care less about the environment. Too bad that they made their bed with religious freaks and anarchists.

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dbackjon wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
Explain to me why barge is so important? Don't trains do a better job for cheaper? Help someone that lives in the sticks understand.
Transporting heavy bulk goods, like coal, grain, etc downstream is much cheaper via barge. You have a huge number of barges steered by one tug boat - on the loaded downstream trip, the river current does most of the work - the tug is needed for steering, and a little push in slack water segments


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Hey, how much of this corn is going to feed the demand for corn based ethanol?
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mainejeff wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:
Hey, since you're being so judgemental...why don't you donate the proceeds from your 300% stock gains under Obama to people in need. :coffee:
No f*cking way! I'm just on the Dem side because Republicans want to control who you sleep with, who you worship, and could care less about the environment. Too bad that they made their bed with religious freaks and anarchists.

:coffee:

Then you should be on the Libertarian side. :nod:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
No f*cking way! I'm just on the Dem side because Republicans want to control who you sleep with, who you worship, and could care less about the environment. Too bad that they made their bed with religious freaks and anarchists.

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Then you should be on the Libertarian side. :nod:

And be a Conk in disguise like you, Ron, Jr.????

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GannonFan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Transporting heavy bulk goods, like coal, grain, etc downstream is much cheaper via barge. You have a huge number of barges steered by one tug boat - on the loaded downstream trip, the river current does most of the work - the tug is needed for steering, and a little push in slack water segments


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Hey, how much of this corn is going to feed the demand for corn based ethanol?

If it's on a barge it's probably not going for ethanol. I live in the middle of corn country and they imported corn via rail this year because there are too many ethanol plants in the area and the demand is too great.
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