BREAKING -- World's Largest Charity Feeds the Hungry

[JoltinJoe]

(AP) -- Once again today, the Roman Catholic Church, by far the world's largest charitable organization, fed more of the hungry, housed more of the homeless, tended to the more of the sick, and educated more of the poor throughout the world than all other organizations combined.

"But I found a press release on a litigation mill website about a single predator priest in Peoria," said D1B, a chronic message board troll from the United States. "And that is all I focus on. We need to take all the money the Church spends on the poor and the hungry and give it to Jeffrey Anderson."

[Ivytalk]

(AP) -- Once again today, the Roman Catholic Church, by far the world's largest charitable organization, fed more of the hungry, housed more of the homeless, tended to the more of the sick, and educated more of the poor throughout the world than all other organizations combined.

"But I found a press release on a litigation mill website about a single predator priest in Peoria," said D1B, a chronic message board troll from the United States. "And that is all I focus on. We need to take all the money the Church spends on the poor and the hungry and give it to Jeffrey Anderson."

[D1B]

(AP) -- Once again today, the Roman Catholic Church, by far the world's largest charitable organization, fed more of the hungry, housed more of the homeless, tended to the more of the sick, and educated more of the poor throughout the world than all other organizations combined.

"But I found a press release on a litigation mill website about a single predator priest in Peoria," said D1B, a chronic message board troll from the United States. "And that is all I focus on. We need to take all the money the Church spends on the poor and the hungry and give it to Jeffrey Anderson."

And in other news, for every dollar you give the catholic church, practically nothing is used for charity.



The catholic church's mishandling of funds, money laundering and other financial criminal acts are well documented. The Vatican bank is still embroiled in scandal.

In Peoria, and other cities all over the world, during the last 15 years the catholic church has spent approximatley 3.3 BILLION DOLLARS paying lawyers, silencing victims, paying public relations/damage control firms and settling lost cases.

There are two countries with tens of millions of residents currently conducting official government investigations of the catholic church. There are more to come.

The catholic church has been summoned by the United Nations to explain its role in fostering and covering up crimes against humanity/children.

Almost a dozen large archdioceses are bankrupt/closed or currently in bankruptcy protection.

America's top catholic was recently caught hiding pedophiles.

Finally, from Australia.....

Sadistic' ex-priest left boy unable to walk
Posted by: Lauren Hilbert | 17 October, 2013 - 1:04 PM
County Court (FFX)

A former Catholic priest who preyed upon and sexually abused young boys in his care has been jailed for 13 years.

Judge Elizabeth Gaynor described the crimes committed by David Edwin Rapson as sadistic, violent and "utterly cruel".

A jury found Rapson, 60, guilty of indecent assault and rape against eight victims.

The offences occurred between 1973 and 1990. All but one on the victims were students at the Catholic boys' school where he taught.

The court was told shocking details of the offences, hearing one attack left the student unable to walk and requiring surgery.

In another case, he explained his conduct by saying God had "made" him that way.

The court heard Rapson gave some victims cigarettes and alcohol before attacks.

In one case he was involved in the drugging of a group of boys in order to subdue them.

Judge Gaynor said Rapson had ruined lives and shown no shred of remorse.

She sentenced him to 13 years jail with a non-parole period of 10 years.

Shame on you Joe for using the "We do good stuff so don't worry about that other stuff' crap. You continue the catholic pattern of minimizing your church's crimes and disparaging victims.

[Pwns]

So is the chunk given to charities really larger than any other organization as Joe said? And are at least part of the expenditures labeled as education and health care not considered charities? And how reliable are these "estimates"?

[Grizalltheway]

So is the chunk given to charities really larger than any other organization as Joe said? And are at least part of the expenditures labeled as education and health care not considered charities? And how reliable are these "estimates"?

Yeah, we all know The Economist is an uninformed, anti-Catholic rag.

[D1B]

So is the chunk given to charities really larger than any other organization as Joe said? And are at least part of the expenditures labeled as education and health care not considered charities? And how reliable are these "estimates"?

Joe is exaggerating, grossly exagerating.

IMO, the largest charity in the world is the SECULAR United States Government. MOF, Catholic Charities gets a shitload of money from the United States of America.

Many a drug kingpin, tyrant or mafia boss employ the same marketing/PR ruse which is essentially - do a few good deeds and hope people concentrate on that versus your crimes.

That being said, Catholic Charities is a good organization that does good, front line, work for the poorest of the poor. The church certainly should be commended for that. I will also concede that for every child raped by a catholic priest, bishop, cardinal or pope, there are many more served by the charitable arm of the church.

The primary issue though is the corruption of its leaders and evil manifested in its governance. They essentially are getting away with the crime of the millenium.

Thank god there are people like Jeff Anderson and SNAP holding them accountable.

[89Hen]

Not sure what DB1 thinks he's showing on that chart... maybe he doesn't know either. From same article...

Catholic institutions employ over 1m people...

Catholic Charities USA, its main charity, and its subsidiaries employ over 65,000 paid staff and serve over 10m people. These organisations distributed $4.7 billion to the poor in 2010

[D1B]

Not sure what DB1 thinks he's showing on that chart... maybe he doesn't know either. From same article...

Catholic institutions employ over 1m people...

Catholic Charities USA, its main charity, and its subsidiaries employ over 65,000 paid staff and serve over 10m people. These organisations distributed $4.7 billion to the poor in 2010

Uhhhh, 89Braincells, it's a very small percentage of its total spending.

[89Hen]

Not sure what DB1 thinks he's showing on that chart... maybe he doesn't know either. From same article...

Uhhhh, 89Braincells, it's a very small percentage of its total spending.

You don't even understand the chart you posted.

[Gil Dobie]

(AP) -- Once again today, the Roman Catholic Church, by far the world's largest charitable organization, fed more of the hungry, housed more of the homeless, tended to the more of the sick, and educated more of the poor throughout the world than all other organizations combined.

"But I found a press release on a litigation mill website about a single predator priest in Peoria," said D1B, a chronic message board troll from the United States. "And that is all I focus on. We need to take all the money the Church spends on the poor and the hungry and give it to Jeffrey Anderson."

That's great and all, but they still need to come clean on the child abuse crap.

[D1B]

Uhhhh, 89Braincells, it's a very small percentage of its total spending.

You don't even understand the chart you posted.

The Economist estimates that annual spending by the church and entities owned by the church was around $170 billion in 2010 (the church does not release such figures). We think 57% of this goes on health-care networks, followed by 28% on colleges, with parish and diocesan day-to-day operations accounting for just 6% and national charitable activities just 2.7% (see chart).

[GannonFan]

You don't even understand the chart you posted.

The Economist estimates that annual spending by the church and entities owned by the church was around $170 billion in 2010 (the church does not release such figures). We think 57% of this goes on health-care networks, followed by 28% on colleges, with parish and diocesan day-to-day operations accounting for just 6% and national charitable activities just 2.7% (see chart).

The health care networks are, at least partially, a charitable activity as well.

I'm shocked you didn't highlight the amount they spendon day to day operations - I thought you always said that number was much higher than you're quoting.

I have to say, I do question whether you understand these charts.

[Skjellyfetti]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjkl_2sLBvs[/youtube]

[JoltinJoe]

First of all, I am talking about the worldwide Catholic Church, not merely the American Church. That being said ...

So the nearly $100 billion spent on health care doesn't qualify as charitable spending? The Catholic Church supports a vast array of remarkable hospitals and other health care facilities, many of which are renowned for their excellence. And no matter what, they will treat anyone in need, even if lacking insuance and having no ability to pay.

Also, the nearly $50 billion spent on higher education is charitable spending?

And not to quibble, but parishes run numerous food pantries, soup kitchens, and shelters, so of that $11 billion spent on parishes, parishes turn around and spend a significant amount of that money to support their local charitable efforts.

The $4.7 billion which goes directly to charities is still a remarkable sum of money. You won't find any other organization coming close to that.

Finally, calling the US Government a charitable organization is really a stretch. But throughout the world, the Catholic Church nonetheless spends more on charitable purposes than the US Government.

[89Hen]

You don't even understand the chart you posted.

The Economist estimates that annual spending by the church and entities owned by the church was around $170 billion in 2010 (the church does not release such figures). We think 57% of this goes on health-care networks, followed by 28% on colleges, with parish and diocesan day-to-day operations accounting for just 6% and national charitable activities just 2.7% (see chart).

Yup, you don't get it.

[D1B]

First of all, I am talking about the worldwide Catholic Church, not merely the American Church. That being said ...

So the nearly $100 billion spent on health care doesn't qualify as charitable spending? The Catholic Church supports a vast array of remarkable hospitals and other health care facilities, many of which are renowned for their excellence. And no matter what, they will treat anyone in need, even if lacking insuance and having no ability to pay.

Also, the nearly $50 billion spent on higher education is charitable spending?

And not to quibble, but parishes run numerous food pantries, soup kitchens, and shelters, so of that $11 billion spent on parishes, parishes turn around and spend a significant amount of that money to support their local charitable efforts.

The $4.7 billion which goes directly to charities is still a remarkable sum of money. You won't find any other organization coming close to that.

Finally, calling the US Government a charitable organization is really a stretch. But throughout the world, the Catholic Church nonetheless spends more on charitable purposes than the US Government.

Joe, I agree, they do a lot of great stuff. They also profit immensely from their healthcare and higher education endeavors. The church is doing less and less charity care as almost all of their hospitals are now run by profiteers versus nuns. Also, again, Catholic Charities gets a shit load of its cash from federal, state and local grants. They should too, many of em are well run operations.

Still, a very small percentage of church dollars and effort go to help the poor. Is this alot compared to other charities? You bet. Is it alot relative to the church's capacity and mission to live out the values of jesus christ? No fucking way.

[D1B]

First of all, I am talking about the worldwide Catholic Church, not merely the American Church. That being said ...

So the nearly $100 billion spent on health care doesn't qualify as charitable spending? The Catholic Church supports a vast array of remarkable hospitals and other health care facilities, many of which are renowned for their excellence. And no matter what, they will treat anyone in need, even if lacking insuance and having no ability to pay.

St. Mary's medical bill submitted to Cap'n Cat's insurance company for services rendered - $1,000,000 +.

Thank you Cap'n, your insurance company, the tax payers (a majority of whom are not catholic) who fund medicare and medicaid, the companies who self pay for insurance, commercial insurers, small business oweners, the tax payers who absorb/fund hospital tax breaks and direct subsidies - THANK YOU ALL FOR FUNDING ALL THE CHARITY CARE IN CATHOLIC HOSPITALS.

*BTW, the IRS requires catholic hospitals to provide charity care in order to maintain their not-for-profit status.

[JoltinJoe]

I'm sure you know that there is a dramatic difference between what a hospital bills and what insurance actually pays.

Also, long before there even was an Internal Revenue Service, Catholic hospitals provided health care to the needy without regard to an ability to pay.

[D1B]

I'm sure you know that there is a dramatic difference between what a hospital bills and what insurance actually pays.

Also, long before there even was an Internal Revenue Service, Catholic hospitals provided health care to the needy without regard to an ability to pay.

A cursory glance at several "catholic" hospitals would indicate they're billing just fine.

Catholic hospital charity care is somewhat of a myth....

According to the Washington State Department of Health, more than a billion dollars in charity care charges were reported statewide in 2010. Harborview in Seattle (which is a public hospital) reported the most charity care with $186 million, more than triple the next largest amount of $62 million, reported by Providence Regional Medical Center (Catholic) in Everett. All told, the total amount of charity care reported was 2.62% of total revenue for the reporting hospitals.

Again, the vast majority of revenue sources for all hospitals are secular in origin - Medicare, Medicaid, private and commercial insurance and self pay. These revenues enable all hospitals meet their IRS charity care requirements. The catholics never mention this.

Yes, Joe, when the nuns were running things, the hospitals did great work. You and I both know those days are over, and have been for decades. This is what's wrong with your church. Fortunately you now have a pope who appears to recognize this. We'll see....