Jesus was made up

[grizzaholic]

How old was Noah?

When he drank his first beer, or when he was the Captain of the USS Arc?

I don't know offhand, but it was some ridiculous age. Over 500?

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And that right there is proof it is bullshit.

[Grizalltheway]

We rational beings tend to base our knowledge on the observable and provable. The onus is on those who "believe" to prove that it does exist. No one can prove it does exist, because it doesn't. You believe in a feel-good fable that the masses use as a crutch to feel good about themselves and feel they have a greater purpose. The organized religions, specifically Christianity, use it to make money off of the feeble minded.

How are we in existence? That's real, can you tell me how that happened? Prove how we are here. You know jackshit about what is real and what isn't. Nice deflection.

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Newsflash: YOU DON'T EITHER. Nobody knows exactly how we got here or where we're going when it's all over. It's human nature to cling to something that helps us make sense of our puzzling existence. Christians have the Bible, Muslins have the Koran, and atheists have science and critical thinking/self-introspection.

[grizzaholic]

How are we in existence? That's real, can you tell me how that happened? Prove how we are here. You know jackshit about what is real and what isn't. Nice deflection.

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Newsflash: YOU DON'T EITHER. Nobody knows exactly how we got here or where we're going when it's all over. It's human nature to cling to something that helps us make sense of our puzzling existence. Christians have the Bible, Muslins have the Koran, and atheists have science and critical thinking/self-introspection.

I know exactly how we got here.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRBHxJBUv_A[/youtube]

We are the retarded offspring of 5 monkeys having butt sex with a fish squirrel.

[SDHornet]

Newsflash: YOU DON'T EITHER. Nobody knows exactly how we got here or where we're going when it's all over. It's human nature to cling to something that helps us make sense of our puzzling existence. Christians have the Bible, Muslins have the Koran, and atheists have science and critical thinking/self-introspection.

I know exactly how we got here.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRBHxJBUv_A[/youtube]

We are the retarded offspring of 5 monkeys having butt sex with a fish squirrel.

My favorite part of that episode is when Cartman makes the phone call from the future to Mr(s). Garrison's lover.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

We rational beings tend to base our knowledge on the observable and provable. The onus is on those who "believe" to prove that it does exist. No one can prove it does exist, because it doesn't. You believe in a feel-good fable that the masses use as a crutch to feel good about themselves and feel they have a greater purpose. The organized religions, specifically Christianity, use it to make money off of the feeble minded.

How are we in existence? That's real, can you tell me how that happened? Prove how we are here. You know jackshit about what is real and what isn't. Nice deflection.

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Our parents fucked. Did you not get the birds and the bees talk? Did you not pay attention in biology class?

[JoltinJoe]

So are you using this logic.

No. It was a jab.

And not a very good one, since Hitler was an atheist.

[JoltinJoe]

We rational beings tend to base our knowledge on the observable and provable.

But man is not merely a rational being. He is an intuitive being too.

The problem with "rational" persons is that they use their "rationalism" to minimize their intuitive nature, which in the end, isn't very rational.

In the end, this is the disconnect between people of no faith, and people of faith, and why discussion between the two breaks down, often into insults. It is why atheists don't understand people of faith, and why they think people of faith are "feeble minded." And it is why people of faith think people of no faith are just missing something.

[kalm]

We rational beings tend to base our knowledge on the observable and provable.

But man is not merely a rational being. He is an intuitive being too.

The problem with "rational" persons is that they use their "rationalism" to minimize their intuitive nature, which in the end, isn't very rational.

In the end, this is the disconnect between people of no faith, and people of faith, and why discussion between the two breaks down, often into insults. It is why atheists don't understand people of faith, and why they think people of faith are "feeble minded." And it is why people of faith think people of no faith are just missing something.

And why agnostics are superior to both.

[kalm]

How are we in existence? That's real, can you tell me how that happened? Prove how we are here. You know jackshit about what is real and what isn't. Nice deflection.

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Newsflash: YOU DON'T EITHER. Nobody knows exactly how we got here or where we're going when it's all over. It's human nature to cling to something that helps us make sense of our puzzling existence. Christians have the Bible, Muslins have the Koran, and atheists have science and critical thinking/self-introspection.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlaoR5m4L80[/youtube]

[D1B]

No. It was a jab.

And not a very good one, since Hitler was an atheist.

Fact: Hitler was a catholic. He had aspirations of being a priest.

[CAA Flagship]

How are we in existence? That's real, can you tell me how that happened? Prove how we are here. You know jackshit about what is real and what isn't. Nice deflection.

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Newsflash: YOU DON'T EITHER. Nobody knows exactly how we got here or where we're going when it's all over. It's human nature to cling to something that helps us make sense of our puzzling existence. Christians have the Bible, Muslins have the Koran, and atheists have science and critical thinking/self-introspection.

All three can help you be a better person when alive on this earth. Only two have the possibility of helping you after you die. No?

[JoltinJoe]

And not a very good one, since Hitler was an atheist.

Fact: Hitler was a catholic. He had aspirations of being a priest.

Hitler was born Catholic, but he abandoned his childhood faith as an adult. He never attended Mass; he described himself to others as a "pagan"; and, of course, as a leader of the Nazi party, he was excommunicated by the blanket excommunication of the Nazi party leadership issued by the German bishops in 1933.

[kalm]

Fact: Hitler was a catholic. He had aspirations of being a priest.

Hitler was born Catholic, but he abandoned his childhood faith as an adult. He never attended Mass; he described himself to others as a "pagan"; and, of course, as a leader of the Nazi party, he was excommunicated by the blanket excommunication of the Nazi party leadership issued by the German bishops in 1933.

Don't be dragging my Pagan peeps into this.

[CAA Flagship]

Hitler was born Catholic, but he abandoned his childhood faith as an adult. He never attended Mass; he described himself to others as a "pagan"; and, of course, as a leader of the Nazi party, he was excommunicated by the blanket excommunication of the Nazi party leadership issued by the German bishops in 1933.

Don't be dragging my Pagan peeps into this.

Are these your peeps?

[kalm]

Don't be dragging my Pagan peeps into this.

Are these your peeps?

[D1B]

Fact: Hitler was a catholic. He had aspirations of being a priest.

Hitler was born Catholic, but he abandoned his childhood faith as an adult. He never attended Mass; he described himself to others as a "pagan"; and, of course, as a leader of the Nazi party, he was excommunicated by the blanket excommunication of the Nazi party leadership issued by the German bishops in 1933.

Yes, I'm sure that's what they taught you in your catholicism classes, but unfortunately for you Hitler retained his religious beliefs his whole life.

No rite of excommunication was taken against Hitler. Fact.

Your revisionist apologetics have grown tiresome.

[andy7171]

God Damn! These Non-practicing Catholics are fucking bitter!

[Cap'n Cat]

Throughout his reign, Hitler, when necessary, invoked the Catholic Church through its imagery and myths to motivate the German populace. It was a big tool in his arsenal as well as in those of his henchmen.

[JoltinJoe]

Throughout his reign, Hitler, when necessary, invoked the Catholic Church through its imagery and myths to motivate the German populace. It was a big tool in his arsenal as well as in those of his henchmen.

Why? Catholics were a distinct minority in Germany. Lutherans predominated: 70% of the population was Lutheran.

Your claim makes little sense. Why would Hitler invoked Catholic imagery when the overwhelming majority of the population was not Catholic?

It is true Hitler used religious imagery, but not because he was religious. Hitler's intention was to form a national synod in Germany under the control of the Nationalist Socialist party. He in fact started this "church," and appointed Ludwig Mueller (a noted anti-Semite) as the Reich Bishop in 1933. Hitler's ultimate intention was to co-opt the Lutheran churches and disband the Catholic churches.

[Cap'n Cat]

Throughout his reign, Hitler, when necessary, invoked the Catholic Church through its imagery and myths to motivate the German populace. It was a big tool in his arsenal as well as in those of his henchmen.

Why? Catholics were a distinct minority in Germany. Lutherans predominated: 70% of the population was Lutheran.

Your claim makes little sense. Why would Hitler invoked Catholic imagery when the overwhelming majority of the population was not Catholic?

It is true Hitler used religious imagery, but not because he was religious. Hitler's intention was to form a national synod in Germany under the control of the Nationalist Socialist party. He in fact started this "church," and appointed Ludwig Mueller (a noted anti-Semite) as the Reich Bishop in 1933. Hitler's ultimate intention was to co-opt the Lutheran churches and disband the Catholic churches.

I think you're assuming too much in the highlighted above, Joe. He stole from where he could and the Catholic Church had the richest stores of available iconographic material which he could use for his devices. Nothing more.

[D1B]

Why? Catholics were a distinct minority in Germany. Lutherans predominated: 70% of the population was Lutheran.

Your claim makes little sense. Why would Hitler invoked Catholic imagery when the overwhelming majority of the population was not Catholic?

It is true Hitler used religious imagery, but not because he was religious. Hitler's intention was to form a national synod in Germany under the control of the Nationalist Socialist party. He in fact started this "church," and appointed Ludwig Mueller (a noted anti-Semite) as the Reich Bishop in 1933. Hitler's ultimate intention was to co-opt the Lutheran churches and disband the Catholic churches.

I think you're assuming too much in the highlighted above, Joe. He stole from where he could and the Catholic Church had the richest stores of available iconographic material which he could use for his devices. Nothing more.

Yeah, that and Hitler was Catholic. You stick with what you know.

[clenz]

I think you're assuming too much in the highlighted above, Joe. He stole from where he could and the Catholic Church had the richest stores of available iconographic material which he could use for his devices. Nothing more.

Yeah, that and Hitler was Catholic. You stick with what you know.

D, my main issue with most of what you are saying (and Cap too) is that just because Hitler, or anyone for that matter, was raised with a certain religion it means they are completely entrenched in it.

My father was raised in a Catholic household. My grandparents never missed a mass until their deaths. My father hasn't been to a catholic church, other than funerals and weddings, since about 1981. He was raised Catholic, but he would consider himself as Catholic as you do....since you two were raised Catholic. Hell, my father is actually a deacon or usher or some shit like that at a Baptist church in my home town. Even still to say that my father is "religious" is a step or four too far.


I, and if my mother knew this she would kick my ass, have been to maybe 4 church services since I left the house in 2006 that didn't involve Christmas, Easter, Baptism, funeral, wedding, etc... I was raised Baptist, went on mission trips to Mexico, Canada, Wisconsin, and Missouri, I volunteered at Christian clothing/food pantries as a staff and occasionally as a maintenance worker in cities up to an hour and a half from my home town, etc...

Just because I, or anyone, was raised in a religion doesn't make me religious or mean that I follow that doctrine. I have a great faith system loosely based on my Baptist upbringing but has almost nothing to do with the stories of Abraham, Noah, Job, Jonas, etc... I draw as much from some Buddhist, Shinto, Hindu, Toaist, etc.. beliefs as I do parts of th Christian faith. I'd bet the vast majority of Christians do the same, just don't realize it.

Faith is wonderful and can do many things for a person.



Though I agree that religion is the issue. Religion is completely flawed, and that the way Hitler came to power can be said for the way that religion gains so much power over people as well.


Faith = awesome
Religion = not so much

[CAA Flagship]

I was raised Baptist, went on mission trips to Mexico, Canada, Wisconsin, and Missouri,....

To introduce plumbing and the use of a toothbrush?

[SDHornet]

I was raised Baptist, went on mission trips to Mexico, Canada, Wisconsin, and Missouri,....

To introduce plumbing and the use of a toothbrush?

Hey now, Mexico at least has plumbing (in some areas). Not sure the same can be said about those other places.

[CAA Flagship]

To introduce plumbing and the use of a toothbrush?

Hey now, Mexico at least has plumbing (in some areas). Not sure the same can be said about those other places.