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Um, Z, the problem with this is that, in the background, the old rich white men still run the party table as does a marionette puppeteer. People like Limbaugh, Levin, Robertson still direct you and, like lemmings off the cliff, your follow bindle.

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And these "old rich white men" have zero influence at all on the Democratic party?
they do. The Democratic Party, for good or bad, can get other races to follow it.

Yes, Tim Scott is a black Republican, from the south mind you, but how many blacks and hispanics vote Republican vice Democrats.


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Ibanez wrote:
DSUrocks07 wrote:
And these "old rich white men" have zero influence at all on the Democratic party?
they do. The Democratic Party, for good or bad, can get other races to follow it.

Yes, Tim Scott is a black Republican, from the south mind you, but how many blacks and hispanics vote Republican vice Democrats.


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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:they do. The Democratic Party, for good or bad, can get other races to follow it.

Yes, Tim Scott is a black Republican, from the south mind you, but how many blacks and hispanics vote Republican vice Democrats.


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Both parties sucks. The sooner you all realize that AND STOP REELECTING INCUMBENTS the sooner we MIGHT be able to save this country.


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Grizalltheway wrote:
TheDancinMonarch wrote:
I'm sure that with his BA from Princeton and law degree from Harvard he could debate quite well on both Ms. Tubman and hobbits.
Obama has a BA from Columbia and a JD from Harvard, and you and your ilk act like he's the dumbest president we've ever had. :roll:
GW Bush has a BA from Yale and an MBA from Harvard, and you and your ilk act like he's the dumbest president we've ever had. :roll:

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HI54UNI wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Obama has a BA from Columbia and a JD from Harvard, and you and your ilk act like he's the dumbest president we've ever had. :roll:
GW Bush has a BA from Yale and an MBA from Harvard, and you and your ilk act like he's the dumbest president we've ever had. :roll:

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Ivy League MBA's ruined the world wide economy and Ivy League JD's ruined Washington DC.

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kalm wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
GW Bush has a BA from Yale and an MBA from Harvard, and you and your ilk act like he's the dumbest president we've ever had. :roll:

:coffee:
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If the GOP wants to increase their relevancy they can:

-Practice what they preach regarding smaller government. The debt ceiling is being raised again - not good news for the country. The answer is not to increase taxes on the rich, the answer is to level out or decrease spending. Washington is fill of pork. With the upcoming debt ceiling negotiations either keep spending absolutely flat - roll back the automatic increases and/or cut spending across the board - and yes that will have to include the DOD.

-Come up with a good plan on immigration. Minorities have flocked to the Democrats 10-1 and that number is probably conservative. For the GOP to win back the presidency & majority status in Congress they need to not portray the image of aging white guys hanging from a ledge trying to grab whatever they can to stay legitimate.

-Transition from the party of "no" to the party of "planning" or "ideas". And the ideas can't come off as immediately partisan. What can they bring to the table to help maintain & improve the lives of Americans? Jobs, energy (outside of just oil), etc.

- Nominate Chris Christie in 2016.
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bluehenbillk wrote:If the GOP wants to increase their relevancy they can:

-Practice what they preach regarding smaller government. The debt ceiling is being raised again - not good news for the country. The answer is not to increase taxes on the rich, the answer is to level out or decrease spending. Washington is fill of pork. With the upcoming debt ceiling negotiations either keep spending absolutely flat - roll back the automatic increases and/or cut spending across the board - and yes that will have to include the DOD.

-Come up with a good plan on immigration. Minorities have flocked to the Democrats 10-1 and that number is probably conservative. For the GOP to win back the presidency & majority status in Congress they need to not portray the image of aging white guys hanging from a ledge trying to grab whatever they can to stay legitimate.

-Transition from the party of "no" to the party of "planning" or "ideas". And the ideas can't come off as immediately partisan. What can they bring to the table to help maintain & improve the lives of Americans? Jobs, energy (outside of just oil), etc.

- Nominate Chris Christie in 2016.
Christie gives them a shot at moderates, but I'm afraid he'll end up being more of the same...just another politician protecting the establishment. Same goes for Hilary.
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kalm wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:If the GOP wants to increase their relevancy they can:

-Practice what they preach regarding smaller government. The debt ceiling is being raised again - not good news for the country. The answer is not to increase taxes on the rich, the answer is to level out or decrease spending. Washington is fill of pork. With the upcoming debt ceiling negotiations either keep spending absolutely flat - roll back the automatic increases and/or cut spending across the board - and yes that will have to include the DOD.

-Come up with a good plan on immigration. Minorities have flocked to the Democrats 10-1 and that number is probably conservative. For the GOP to win back the presidency & majority status in Congress they need to not portray the image of aging white guys hanging from a ledge trying to grab whatever they can to stay legitimate.

-Transition from the party of "no" to the party of "planning" or "ideas". And the ideas can't come off as immediately partisan. What can they bring to the table to help maintain & improve the lives of Americans? Jobs, energy (outside of just oil), etc.

- Nominate Chris Christie in 2016.
Christie gives them a shot at moderates, but I'm afraid he'll end up being more of the same...just another politician protecting the establishment. Same goes for Hilary.
Eh, at least Christie has a track record right now as an executive in a government of not being what you fear he would be. Granted, neither of them will roll back the clock to the 1950's like you want the President to do, but until we get a President who owns a DeLorean that's not going to happen.

IMO, at least, in 2016, if we get a Clinton vs. Christie race, it would be the first time since maybe the '92 election that we have an actual choice between two legitimate candiates rather than just having to pick the least terrible of two flawed choices. The list of Dole, Gore, Kerry, McCain, Romney is not really an all star list.
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Ibanez wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
There's a different reason for that.
Both parties sucks. The sooner you all realize that AND STOP REELECTING INCUMBENTS the sooner we MIGHT be able to save this country.


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GannonFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Christie gives them a shot at moderates, but I'm afraid he'll end up being more of the same...just another politician protecting the establishment. Same goes for Hilary.
Eh, at least Christie has a track record right now as an executive in a government of not being what you fear he would be. Granted, neither of them will roll back the clock to the 1950's like you want the President to do, but until we get a President who owns a DeLorean that's not going to happen.

IMO, at least, in 2016, if we get a Clinton vs. Christie race, it would be the first time since maybe the '92 election that we have an actual choice between two legitimate candiates rather than just having to pick the least terrible of two flawed choices. The list of Gore, Kerry, Obama, McCain, Romney, Bush is not really an all star list.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Eh, at least Christie has a track record right now as an executive in a government of not being what you fear he would be. Granted, neither of them will roll back the clock to the 1950's like you want the President to do, but until we get a President who owns a DeLorean that's not going to happen.

IMO, at least, in 2016, if we get a Clinton vs. Christie race, it would be the first time since maybe the '92 election that we have an actual choice between two legitimate candiates rather than just having to pick the least terrible of two flawed choices. The list of Gore, Kerry, Obama, McCain, Romney, Bush is not really an all star list.
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GannonFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Christie gives them a shot at moderates, but I'm afraid he'll end up being more of the same...just another politician protecting the establishment. Same goes for Hilary.
Eh, at least Christie has a track record right now as an executive in a government of not being what you fear he would be. Granted, neither of them will roll back the clock to the 1950's like you want the President to do, but until we get a President who owns a DeLorean that's not going to happen.

IMO, at least, in 2016, if we get a Clinton vs. Christie race, it would be the first time since maybe the '92 election that we have an actual choice between two legitimate candiates rather than just having to pick the least terrible of two flawed choices. The list of Dole, Gore, Kerry, McCain, Romney is not really an all star list.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Both parties sucks. The sooner you all realize that AND STOP REELECTING INCUMBENTS the sooner we MIGHT be able to save this country.


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AZGrizFan wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Eh, at least Christie has a track record right now as an executive in a government of not being what you fear he would be. Granted, neither of them will roll back the clock to the 1950's like you want the President to do, but until we get a President who owns a DeLorean that's not going to happen.

IMO, at least, in 2016, if we get a Clinton vs. Christie race, it would be the first time since maybe the '92 election that we have an actual choice between two legitimate candiates rather than just having to pick the least terrible of two flawed choices. The list of Gore, Kerry, Obama, McCain, Romney, Bush is not really an all star list.
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kalm wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Eh, at least Christie has a track record right now as an executive in a government of not being what you fear he would be. Granted, neither of them will roll back the clock to the 1950's like you want the President to do, but until we get a President who owns a DeLorean that's not going to happen.

IMO, at least, in 2016, if we get a Clinton vs. Christie race, it would be the first time since maybe the '92 election that we have an actual choice between two legitimate candiates rather than just having to pick the least terrible of two flawed choices. The list of Dole, Gore, Kerry, McCain, Romney is not really an all star list.
:lol:

Said the guy who loves the status quo...
That's nonsense, show me a quote where I've defended the status quo. :tothehand:

I'm still waiting....
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AZGrizFan wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Eh, at least Christie has a track record right now as an executive in a government of not being what you fear he would be. Granted, neither of them will roll back the clock to the 1950's like you want the President to do, but until we get a President who owns a DeLorean that's not going to happen.

IMO, at least, in 2016, if we get a Clinton vs. Christie race, it would be the first time since maybe the '92 election that we have an actual choice between two legitimate candiates rather than just having to pick the least terrible of two flawed choices. The list of Gore, Kerry, Obama, McCain, Romney, Bush is not really an all star list.
FIFY.
What's the love affair with Dole? And do you really remember the '96 election? I'm not sure Dole himself remembers it - he's probably blocked it out so his performance doesn't give himself nightmares.
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GannonFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
:lol:

Said the guy who loves the status quo...
That's nonsense, show me a quote where I've defended the status quo. :tothehand:

I'm still waiting....
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kalm wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
That's nonsense, show me a quote where I've defended the status quo. :tothehand:

I'm still waiting....
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HI54UNI wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Obama has a BA from Columbia and a JD from Harvard, and you and your ilk act like he's the dumbest president we've ever had. :roll:
GW Bush has a BA from Yale and an MBA from Harvard, and you and your ilk act like he's the dumbest president we've ever had. :roll:

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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Less old white men as the leaders and mouthpieces. :coffee:
:roll: :roll:

Ted Cruz: Sell Out
Marco Rubio: Wanna be White
Bobby Jindal: Joke
Paul Ryan: Old Crazy Guy
Chris Christie: A Real Cool Guy and I would Vote for him :thumb:
Alan West: Uncle Tom
Dr. Ben Watson: Uncle Tom II
Tim Scott: Needs a new message.
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Cap'n Cat wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
GW Bush has a BA from Yale and an MBA from Harvard, and you and your ilk act like he's the dumbest president we've ever had. :roll:

:coffee:
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Kenya bought Obama's. What's your point?
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mrklean wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
:roll: :roll:

Ted Cruz: Sell Out
Marco Rubio: Wanna be White
Bobby Jindal: Joke
Alan West: Uncle Tom
Dr. Ben Watson: Uncle Tom II
Tim Scott: Needs a new message.
Of course you'd say that. Any minority that dare cross over to the Republican side is automatically considered a sell-out Uncle Tom by racists.
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Ibanez wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
OK Dad. Who did you vote for for President? :coffee:
Gary Johnson. :coffee: Your comment is proof that you are probably one of the millions of Americans that will bitch and moan about politics and politicians yet you will continue to re-elect them. :ohno:
Hey, Einstein: I voted for Gary Johnson too. :roll: :roll:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
mrklean wrote:
:roll: :roll:

Ted Cruz: Sell Out
Marco Rubio: Wanna be White
Bobby Jindal: Joke
Alan West: Uncle Tom
Dr. Ben Watson: Uncle Tom II
Tim Scott: Needs a new message.
Of course you'd say that. Any minority that dare cross over to the Republican side is automatically considered a sell-out Uncle Tom by racists.

Mike Steele is a Great Guy. I wish he would run for President. But his own Party will not support him. :ohno:
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