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kalm wrote:I still say we should shut everything down. Everyone needs to feel some pain. It's the principled thing to do. :nod:

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It's different than the 1990s shutdown. Things like Facebook, Twitter, etc. are getting the word out about these stupid decisions and how it makes the administration look petty. Watch for the social security check stuff start to come out in the next week so scare the senior citizens.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Derrick A. Crandall, a counselor at the National Park Hospitality Association, an organization for park concessionaires, said the Park Service is showing less leniency this time than it did during the 1995 and 1996 shutdowns.
Who was president in 1995 and 1996?
Who is president in 2013?

It wouldn't be Donks, would it?
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Park Service OKs Amnesty rally on 'closed' National Mall
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Re: Shutdown Shenanigans

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grizzaholic wrote:
kalm wrote:I still say we should shut everything down. Everyone needs to feel some pain. It's the principled thing to do. :nod:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/huffpos-sam- ... the-world/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah...especially those asshole golf course owners.
I'm perfectly ok with shutting down publicly owned golf courses. :coffee:
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BDKJMU wrote:The White House is govt owned. How about kicking out the jackazz that currently occupies it until the shutdown is over...
Good idea, too bad your party is only into symbolic actions that don't affect themselves. Pussies. :ohno:
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kalm wrote:I still say we should shut everything down. Everyone needs to feel some pain. It's the principled thing to do. :nod:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/huffpos-sam- ... the-world/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I say let's lock the doors on non-essential buildings. Then let's put a sign outside of out-of-doors facilities saying they are closed, no services are available there and anyone who enters, does so at their own risk and go home. No need to pay guards and put up barricades.
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Re: Shutdown Shenanigans

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kalm wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:

Yeah...especially those asshole golf course owners.
I'm perfectly ok with shutting down publicly owned golf courses. :coffee:

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grizzaholic wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Derrick A. Crandall, a counselor at the National Park Hospitality Association, an organization for park concessionaires, said the Park Service is showing less leniency this time than it did during the 1995 and 1996 shutdowns.
Who was president in 1995 and 1996?
Who is president in 2013?

It wouldn't be Donks, would it?

Yes, and it was idiotic crying, extremist Republicans that caused the shutdowns.

Just like now - the 80 fucking traitors in the house. All should be kicked out of office, exported to Iran.

Fucking morons.
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dbackjon wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
Who was president in 1995 and 1996?
Who is president in 2013?

It wouldn't be Donks, would it?

Yes, and it was idiotic crying, extremist Republicans that caused the shutdowns.

Just like now - the 80 fucking traitors in the house. All should be kicked out of office, exported to Iran.

Fucking morons.

Now. Now. You are letting your emotions cloud your normally unreasonable judgement. ;)
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grizzaholic wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Yes, and it was idiotic crying, extremist Republicans that caused the shutdowns.

Just like now - the 80 fucking traitors in the house. All should be kicked out of office, exported to Iran.

Fucking morons.

Now. Now. You are letting your emotions cloud your normally unreasonable judgement. ;)

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dbackjon wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
Who was president in 1995 and 1996?
Who is president in 2013?

It wouldn't be Donks, would it?

Yes, and it was idiotic crying, extremist Republicans that caused the shutdowns.

Just like now - the 80 fucking traitors in the house. All should be kicked out of office, exported to Iran.

Fucking morons.[/quote
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dbackjon wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
Who was president in 1995 and 1996?
Who is president in 2013?

It wouldn't be Donks, would it?

Yes, and it was idiotic crying, extremist Republicans that caused the shutdowns.

Just like now - the 80 fucking traitors in the house. All should be kicked out of office, exported to Iran.

Fucking morons.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Yes, and it was idiotic crying, extremist Republicans that caused the shutdowns.

Just like now - the 80 fucking traitors in the house. All should be kicked out of office, exported to Iran.

Fucking morons.
OK, Travis.
Where has that fella been?
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grizzaholic wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
OK, Travis.
Where has that fella been?
He's busy helping his neighbors and doesn't have time to post.
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HI54UNI wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
Where has that fella been?
He's busy helping his neighbors and doesn't have time to post.
That NEVER gets old. :notworthy:
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The first war casualty since the Government shutdown, Marine LCpl Jeremiah Collins of Milwaukee, WI, arrived at Dover AFB yesterday. Unfortunately, his mother is on her own on how to get to Dover and how to get him buried from there.

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The shutdown of the federal government is now affecting some families when they are most vulnerable, denying them a $100,000 benefit to help with funeral expenses of loved ones killed while serving the country.

The families of five U.S. service members who died over the weekend in Afghanistan have been notified that they won't be receiving the "death gratuity" normally wired to relatives within 36 hours. The benefit is intended to help cover funeral costs and help with immediate living expenses until survivor benefits typically begin.

The money also helps cover costs to fly families to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware to witness the return of their loved ones in flag-draped coffins.

"The government is hurting the wrong people," said Shannon Collins, who lost her son over the weekend in Afghanistan.

"Families shouldn’t have to worry about how they’re going to bury their child," she told NBC News.
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dbackjon wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
Who was president in 1995 and 1996?
Who is president in 2013?

It wouldn't be Donks, would it?
Yes, and it was idiotic crying, extremist Republicans that caused the shutdowns.

Just like now - the 80 fucking traitors in the house. All should be kicked out of office, exported to Iran.

Fucking morons.

Funny...

...I was kinda thinkin the same thing about NPS...

...Congress should ask for the resignation of all NPS political appointees...

...and defund the NPS until they resign.

Obama is THE utter disgrace.

No other executive administration in our country's history has

EVER

acted in such a juvenile, spiteful manner...throwing Americans under the bus to further his childish ego.

Once he suggested he'd punish veterans and active duty personnel to "show who's boss"...he lost ANY credibility.

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travelinman67 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Yes, and it was idiotic crying, extremist Republicans that caused the shutdowns.

Just like now - the 80 fucking traitors in the house. All should be kicked out of office, exported to Iran.

Fucking morons.

Funny...

...I was kinda thinkin the same thing about NPS...

...Congress should ask for the resignation of all NPS political appointees...

...and defund the NPS until they resign.

Obama is THE utter disgrace.

No other executive administration in our country's history has

EVER

acted in such a juvenile, spiteful manner...throwing Americans under the bus to further his childish ego.

Once he suggested he'd punish veterans and active duty personnel to "show who's boss"...he lost ANY credibility.

Karma will be painful.

Tman = wrong for 40 years and counting. :thumb:
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Wait...does the shutdown mean I don't have to abide by any FWP rules??? So...can I go shoot 30 deer, 12 elk, 400 wolves, 1000 turkeys, 69 ducks, and feed a goose in a NO FEEDING WILDLIFE area with no worry of tickets?
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travelinman67 is correct
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NPS Not Only Allowing Illegal Immigration Rally On Mall, But Setting Up Porta Potties As Well


I thought we didn’t even have enough money to allow elderly vets on the mall. The NPS even locks up elderly tourists in Yellowstone and prevents them from getting to a bathroom.

But illegal immigration rally? NPS rolls out the mall and provides the set-up of 100 porta potties too.
The rationale, if such it can be called? They are exercising their “First Amendment rights”.

I suggest we all go to the parks and “exercise our First Amendment rights” since now the precedent is set.
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travelinman67 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Yes, and it was idiotic crying, extremist Republicans that caused the shutdowns.

Just like now - the 80 **** traitors in the house. All should be kicked out of office, exported to Iran.

**** morons.

Funny...

...I was kinda thinkin the same thing about NPS...

...Congress should ask for the resignation of all NPS political appointees...

...and defund the NPS until they resign.

Obama is THE utter disgrace.

No other executive administration in our country's history has

EVER

acted in such a juvenile, spiteful manner...throwing Americans under the bus to further his childish ego.

Once he suggested he'd punish veterans and active duty personnel to "show who's boss"...he lost ANY credibility.

Karma will be painful.
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Bronco wrote:travelinman67 is correct
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NPS Not Only Allowing Illegal Immigration Rally On Mall, But Setting Up Porta Potties As Well


I thought we didn’t even have enough money to allow elderly vets on the mall. The NPS even locks up elderly tourists in Yellowstone and prevents them from getting to a bathroom.

But illegal immigration rally? NPS rolls out the mall and provides the set-up of 100 porta potties too.
The rationale, if such it can be called? They are exercising their “First Amendment rights”.

I suggest we all go to the parks and “exercise our First Amendment rights” since now the precedent is set.
And I think we all might have some things to say…
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Eight House Democrats were arrested at said rally.

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WASHINGTON -- Eight Democratic members of Congress joined with activists on Tuesday to block a street in view of the Capitol, an attempt to reignite immigration reform efforts that have stalled out in the House.

Reps. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), John Lewis (D-Ga.), Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.), Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.), Al Green (D-Texas), Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) and Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) participated in the protest. More than 200 people were arrested in total, including faith leaders, members of advocacy groups and other activists.

After an hours-long rally on the National Mall -- which organizers said was allowed despite the shutdown because of First Amendment claims -- advocates and members of Congress walked to the west lawn of the Capitol and flooded the street, surrounding a tour bus and blocking traffic. When police asked them to leave, they didn't, and they eventually were led off, to cheers from the crowd.
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Bronco posted this on the other thread, but it applies to this one as well:
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Meanwhile:
"Defying government shutdown, national park visitors play 'catch me if you can' (+video)
Some Americans are challenging government shutdown national park closures by leaping over barricades or tossing cones aside in acts they call civil disobedience, but which some authorities call just breaking the law.

With the US government shutdown well into its second week, growing numbers of Americans are gleefully engaging in what they call “civil disobedience” by tossing aside cones or jumping over government shutdown-inspired barricades around national monuments, malls, and park entrances.

Whether their acts are punishable by law or a legitimate citizen protest against the federal government is an emerging question as the shutdown entered Day 8......

......Yet the barricaded federal lands issue has particularly focused on whether it’s really necessary to close off public lands that aren’t regularly patrolled, that are leased to private entities, or are simply open-air monuments without pay gates. For some areas, millions of dollars in tourism revenue is at stake.

“We’ve gone from ‘this land is your land, this land is my land,’ to the government saying this land is its land,” writes University of Tennessee law professor Glenn Reynolds in an e-mail. “President Obama said that government is just a word for the things we do together. Apparently that includes kicking WWII veterans off their memorial.”

The politics took on a sharper tone on Tuesday, as a pro-immigrant rally was allowed to take place at the “closed” National Mall near where, five days earlier, World War II veterans first breached barricades in a high-profile moment in the shutdown. The Park Service has since padlocked the area, but has intermittently allowed veterans (though nobody else) to enter.

In the Great Smoky Mountain National Park in Tennessee, rangers shut down Foothill Parkway, a major thoroughfare used by School Bus 49 to shuttle kids to school from the small community of Top of the World, causing a frustrated Blount County Mayor Ed Mitchell to tell Fox News: “We were founded on a Declaration of Independence. And they are about to push the people to the line again.”

At the Gettysburg National Military Park Museum and Visitor Center, gate-crashing visitors posted Twitter photos from the battlefield with the phrase “Catch Us If You Can” written on notes. At Zion National Park and Badlands National Park, visitors have taken to simply tossing cones aside or pushing away barricades to enter.

The 3,000 Park Service personnel who remain on duty (20,000 have been furloughed) have been hesitant to get too heavy-handed in response. On Sunday, however, a jogger was fined $100 for taking a run inside Valley Forge National Monument, despite signs saying it was closed. He says he’ll fight the ticket in federal court.

One area where the government seems to have the clear right to put up barricades or “closed” signs is where there are pay gates to enter an area. But for parks and monuments where people can simply wander onto federal lands, blocking access touches on a “a huge [legal] gray area,” says Dale Goble, a land policy expert who specializes in the sagebrush rebellions of the West.

One issue that remains unclear is the legal foundation for those closure protocols, including what authority rangers have to either remove “trespassers” or even ticket and arrest them. If the rangers don’t have that power, then many of the barricaded areas are, by default, still open to the public......

.....Yet to some people, it also seems federal officials are going out of their way to make the shutdown painfully symbolic. Many of the open-air monuments currently barricaded were not closed during earlier shutdowns. Some, including the World War II Memorial, were closed by express orders from the White House, according to the Park Service.

At Gettysburg, park officials barricaded pulloffs on a public road so people couldn’t stop and view the monuments from the public right of way. Such pulloff barricades suggest to experts like Mr. Reynolds at the University of Tennessee that the cones are simply there out of spite – an evocation of the power and necessity of the federal government.

At Valley Forge National Historical Park, a man named John Bell entered the monument through what he said was an ungated entrance, but was ticketed by two rangers when he returned to his car. At Maine’s Acadia National Park, rangers have also been issuing fines to campers, bikers, and hikers who have jumped the barricades................."

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So they are kicking people out...but oh no, we had better let in some indians in with open arms to do some prayer thingy...fuck them

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