Redskins New Name

[Ibanez]

Washington Imperialist Pigs
Washington Infidels
Washington Fat Kids

There are so many purely American names to choose from.

Washington Sissies
Washington Liberal Elite EC(b)
Washington Pussy Willows

[89Hen]

Dragons

So DC would have Dragons and Wizards? Just need Goblins and Trolls to complete the nerd quadruple.

[Gil Dobie]

[Gil Dobie]

Washington Snydermen.

[93henfan]

Washington Snydermen.

You could just shorten that to the Washington Jews.

[dbackjon]

Washington Imperialist Pigs
Washington Infidels
Washington Fat Kids

There are so many purely American names to choose from.

Washington Sissies
Washington Liberal Elite EC(b)
Washington Pussy Willows

Are those PUSSY Willows?


And it is the Towson Pussy Willows.

[89Hen]

Washington Snydermen.

That's the best yet.

[89Hen]

Washington Sissies
Washington Liberal Elite EC(b)
Washington Pussy Willows

Are those PUSSY Willows?

And it is the Towson Pussy Willows.

The linemen would be big, fat pussies?

[CID1990]

JESUS **** CHRIST What has happened to this country? Bunch of PC apologist assholes. Don't say indian, don't say retarded, don't say this or that. Better appease the .01 percent

We live in the era of the Attention Whore. This week's leg spreaders are the indians. Next week it will be somebody else.

There is a ray of hope though: we at the State Dept still call them the Redskins (evidenced in an official flyer for the game this weekend which will be on TV in our community center).

We are usually the ultimate weather vane for the latest liberal intellectual fads, so that we still say Redskins is promising.

[93henfan]

I just noticed when I was doing some fantasy football moves that at least some ESPN writers are now referring to the "Washington Football Franchise" instead of "Redskins". One such article:

http://espn.go.com/fantasy/football/sto ... l-rankings

[alyssa]

The "R" word is the worst word one can call us. It's the most racist word used against us.
I have ended many relationships because of people saying it around me.
I did not read through all the posts yet but there is a long history now of us wanting teams to change their images and names they use that hurt us but we still don't count enough to have it changed.

A local high school in Texas was called the Frisco Coons for many years. The coons name only indicated the animal and not a person. When the town began to grow the black people didn't like it and the name had to be changed to Frisco Raccoons. It was changed quickly because black people have a voice and power. But American Indians are not treated with the same rights. There are many towns in Texas that still use American Indians' names and images with their teams and it rarely gets changed. In the 1990s Dallas Spruce Apaches changed to the Timberwolves on grounds of the anti harassment rule. Another school district in the DFW area has refused to change their offensive images and names and did not get a $10 million dollar boost by an American Indian person.

My personal rule is to avoid human beings as mascots, nicknames, images etc. especially if it refers to something specific like race.
Well, I'm very sleepy writing this but to wrap it up without saying all I want to say I will say right now that I will believe the name and image changes when they happen.

Maybe they should be another W word to go with Washington like Wildcats.

[CAA Flagship]

The "R" word is the worst word one can call us. It's the most racist word used against us.
I have ended many relationships because of people saying it around me.
I did not read through all the posts yet but there is a long history now of us wanting teams to change their images and names they use that hurt us but we still don't count enough to have it changed.

A local high school in Texas was called the Frisco Coons for many years. The coons name only indicated the animal and not a person. When the town began to grow the black people didn't like it and the name had to be changed to Frisco Raccoons. It was changed quickly because black people have a voice and power. But American Indians are not treated with the same rights. There are many towns in Texas that still use American Indians' names and images with their teams and it rarely gets changed. In the 1990s Dallas Spruce Apaches changed to the Timberwolves on grounds of the anti harassment rule. Another school district in the DFW area has refused to change their offensive images and names and did not get a $10 million dollar boost by an American Indian person.

My personal rule is to avoid human beings as mascots, nicknames, images etc. especially if it refers to something specific like race.
Well, I'm very sleepy writing this but to wrap it up without saying all I want to say I will say right now that I will believe the name and image changes when they happen.

Maybe they should be another W word to go with Washington like Wildcats.

Stop drinking so much and organize yourselves. Having 20 of your tribe show up outside of a stadium is not going to do anything. You need to whine more like children do in order to wear down the powers that be to succeed in change.

But be careful with what you wish for. Eliminating the references to your race (Indians, Redskins, Braves, Sioux, Redmen, Warriors, etc.) will also reduce the awareness of your history.

[Ibanez]

The "R" word is the worst word one can call us. It's the most racist word used against us.
I have ended many relationships because of people saying it around me.
I did not read through all the posts yet but there is a long history now of us wanting teams to change their images and names they use that hurt us but we still don't count enough to have it changed.

A local high school in Texas was called the Frisco Coons for many years. The coons name only indicated the animal and not a person. When the town began to grow the black people didn't like it and the name had to be changed to Frisco Raccoons. It was changed quickly because black people have a voice and power. But American Indians are not treated with the same rights. There are many towns in Texas that still use American Indians' names and images with their teams and it rarely gets changed. In the 1990s Dallas Spruce Apaches changed to the Timberwolves on grounds of the anti harassment rule. Another school district in the DFW area has refused to change their offensive images and names and did not get a $10 million dollar boost by an American Indian person.

My personal rule is to avoid human beings as mascots, nicknames, images etc. especially if it refers to something specific like race.
Well, I'm very sleepy writing this but to wrap it up without saying all I want to say I will say right now that I will believe the name and image changes when they happen.

Maybe they should be another W word to go with Washington like Wildcats.

Oh Jesus. What a stupid post. I guess Notre Dame should change their name. We don't want to upset the Irish. I'm surprised the Irish haven't said anything against this. Tampa Bay is doing Buccaneers a disservice and are ruining the name of those brave men of the high seas. I'll contact my high school and tell them that referring to it's student body as the "Battling Bishops" has a negative connotation and hurts my feelings. NAU better get in line, Lumberjacks around the country might not want to be associated with a team from the SW. I personally, hope the New England Patriots change their name. I feel the word "patriot" is to be only used in songs that sing the praises of those men that fought for independence, not for a Super Bowl.

Then again, we don't want to use animals. Some animals are aggressive, like the Tiger or Panther and that might make some people uncomfortable. Let's just go with colors. No, wait. We can't use colors b/c someone will be the Montana Whites or the California Blacks and that'll cause trouble; especially when the whites beat the blacks. So, let's use letters: The Washington A's battle it out against the Seattle C's, Sunday night at 8 o'clock.

[andy7171]

A guy traveling through the prairies of the USA stopped at a
small town and went to a bar. He stood at the end of the bar,
ordered a drink, and lit up a cigar.
As he sipped his drink, he stood there quietly blowing smoke
rings. After he blew nine or ten smoke rings into the air, an
angry Indian stomped up to him and said, "One more
remark like that and I'll smash your face in!"

[Ibanez]

A guy traveling through the prairies of the USA stopped at a
small town and went to a bar. He stood at the end of the bar,
ordered a drink, and lit up a cigar.
As he sipped his drink, he stood there quietly blowing smoke
rings. After he blew nine or ten smoke rings into the air, an
angry Indian stomped up to him and said, "One more
remark like that and I'll smash your face in!"

[UNI88]

The "R" word is the worst word one can call us. It's the most racist word used against us.
I have ended many relationships because of people saying it around me.
I did not read through all the posts yet but there is a long history now of us wanting teams to change their images and names they use that hurt us but we still don't count enough to have it changed.

A local high school in Texas was called the Frisco Coons for many years. The coons name only indicated the animal and not a person. When the town began to grow the black people didn't like it and the name had to be changed to Frisco Raccoons. It was changed quickly because black people have a voice and power. But American Indians are not treated with the same rights. There are many towns in Texas that still use American Indians' names and images with their teams and it rarely gets changed. In the 1990s Dallas Spruce Apaches changed to the Timberwolves on grounds of the anti harassment rule. Another school district in the DFW area has refused to change their offensive images and names and did not get a $10 million dollar boost by an American Indian person.

My personal rule is to avoid human beings as mascots, nicknames, images etc. especially if it refers to something specific like race.
Well, I'm very sleepy writing this but to wrap it up without saying all I want to say I will say right now that I will believe the name and image changes when they happen.

Maybe they should be another W word to go with Washington like Wildcats.

Stop drinking so much and organize yourselves. Having 20 of your tribe show up outside of a stadium is not going to do anything. You need to whine more like children do in order to wear down the powers that be to succeed in change.

But be careful with what you wish for. Eliminating the references to your race (Indians, Redskins, Braves, Sioux, Redmen, Warriors, etc.) will also reduce the awareness of your history.

There is some truth to this. Having a team named after a specific group can help to perpetuate that group's history. As someone who is primarily of Scandinavian origin, I don't get upset at the name Vikings or Norsemen. IMO, having the Seminoles or Sioux as a mascot isn't a bad thing as long as it is respectful and there is some relationship between the mascot and the tribes' traditions (i.e. if the mascot's dance is based on that tribe's traditional dance) and it helps to carry on and educate others about the tribe.

I do think that Redskins is derogatory and needs to be consigned to the dust heap of history.

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

Washington Imperialist Pigs
Washington Infidels
Washington Fat Kids

There are so many purely American names to choose from.

Washington Farquads
Washington Johnsons
Washington Engines
Washington Pale Riders

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

The "R" word is the worst word one can call us. It's the most racist word used against us.
I have ended many relationships because of people saying it around me.
I did not read through all the posts yet but there is a long history now of us wanting teams to change their images and names they use that hurt us but we still don't count enough to have it changed.

A local high school in Texas was called the Frisco Coons for many years. The coons name only indicated the animal and not a person. When the town began to grow the black people didn't like it and the name had to be changed to Frisco Raccoons. It was changed quickly because black people have a voice and power. But American Indians are not treated with the same rights. There are many towns in Texas that still use American Indians' names and images with their teams and it rarely gets changed. In the 1990s Dallas Spruce Apaches changed to the Timberwolves on grounds of the anti harassment rule. Another school district in the DFW area has refused to change their offensive images and names and did not get a $10 million dollar boost by an American Indian person.

My personal rule is to avoid human beings as mascots, nicknames, images etc. especially if it refers to something specific like race.
Well, I'm very sleepy writing this but to wrap it up without saying all I want to say I will say right now that I will believe the name and image changes when they happen.

Maybe they should be another W word to go with Washington like Wildcats.

Bullshit.

I could go on and on about different names that I heard growing up on a reservation but I won't. Redskins is certainly not the worst name.

[Ibanez]

The "R" word is the worst word one can call us. It's the most racist word used against us.
I have ended many relationships because of people saying it around me.
I did not read through all the posts yet but there is a long history now of us wanting teams to change their images and names they use that hurt us but we still don't count enough to have it changed.

A local high school in Texas was called the Frisco Coons for many years. The coons name only indicated the animal and not a person. When the town began to grow the black people didn't like it and the name had to be changed to Frisco Raccoons. It was changed quickly because black people have a voice and power. But American Indians are not treated with the same rights. There are many towns in Texas that still use American Indians' names and images with their teams and it rarely gets changed. In the 1990s Dallas Spruce Apaches changed to the Timberwolves on grounds of the anti harassment rule. Another school district in the DFW area has refused to change their offensive images and names and did not get a $10 million dollar boost by an American Indian person.

My personal rule is to avoid human beings as mascots, nicknames, images etc. especially if it refers to something specific like race.
Well, I'm very sleepy writing this but to wrap it up without saying all I want to say I will say right now that I will believe the name and image changes when they happen.

Maybe they should be another W word to go with Washington like Wildcats.

Bullshit.

I could go on and on about different names that I heard growing up on a reservation but I won't. Redskins is certainly not the worst name.

Brass ankles?

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

Bullshit.

I could go on and on about different names that I heard growing up on a reservation but I won't. Redskins is certainly not the worst name.

Brass ankles?

Shit Cousin........

[CAA Flagship]

Brass ankles?

Shit Cousin........

Cow Kisser?

Oh, wait. Wrong Indians.

[CAA Flagship]

Tomahonky = Whites with a Native American heritage.

[alyssa]

The "R" word is the worst word one can call us. It's the most racist word used against us.
I have ended many relationships because of people saying it around me.
I did not read through all the posts yet but there is a long history now of us wanting teams to change their images and names they use that hurt us but we still don't count enough to have it changed.

A local high school in Texas was called the Frisco Coons for many years. The coons name only indicated the animal and not a person. When the town began to grow the black people didn't like it and the name had to be changed to Frisco Raccoons. It was changed quickly because black people have a voice and power. But American Indians are not treated with the same rights. There are many towns in Texas that still use American Indians' names and images with their teams and it rarely gets changed. In the 1990s Dallas Spruce Apaches changed to the Timberwolves on grounds of the anti harassment rule. Another school district in the DFW area has refused to change their offensive images and names and did not get a $10 million dollar boost by an American Indian person.

My personal rule is to avoid human beings as mascots, nicknames, images etc. especially if it refers to something specific like race.
Well, I'm very sleepy writing this but to wrap it up without saying all I want to say I will say right now that I will believe the name and image changes when they happen.

Maybe they should be another W word to go with Washington like Wildcats.

Stop drinking so much and organize yourselves.

Speaking for myself, I never drink alcohol. I'm glad I don't. Some of the tribes don't have but 100 people left in them.
I always like to show a video of someone I have met. I'm beginning to experience what she has experienced already. The death of a tribe of full bloods and the death of the culture and language. One of the 4 indigenous languages that I speak fluently is about to die out. I'm among the youngest of the fluent speakers. Persons half my age who understand it when spoken to speak back in English or Spanish and possibly with some French mixed in.
I've been through it multiple times. I don't march to protest. There shouldn't be a need to do that. Some of our ancestors have done that already.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B4pSQFsuT0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[alyssa]

The "R" word is the worst word one can call us. It's the most racist word used against us.
I have ended many relationships because of people saying it around me.
I did not read through all the posts yet but there is a long history now of us wanting teams to change their images and names they use that hurt us but we still don't count enough to have it changed.

A local high school in Texas was called the Frisco Coons for many years. The coons name only indicated the animal and not a person. When the town began to grow the black people didn't like it and the name had to be changed to Frisco Raccoons. It was changed quickly because black people have a voice and power. But American Indians are not treated with the same rights. There are many towns in Texas that still use American Indians' names and images with their teams and it rarely gets changed. In the 1990s Dallas Spruce Apaches changed to the Timberwolves on grounds of the anti harassment rule. Another school district in the DFW area has refused to change their offensive images and names and did not get a $10 million dollar boost by an American Indian person.

My personal rule is to avoid human beings as mascots, nicknames, images etc. especially if it refers to something specific like race.
Well, I'm very sleepy writing this but to wrap it up without saying all I want to say I will say right now that I will believe the name and image changes when they happen.

Maybe they should be another W word to go with Washington like Wildcats.

Oh Jesus. What a stupid post. I guess Notre Dame should change their name. We don't want to upset the Irish. I'm surprised the Irish haven't said anything against this. Tampa Bay is doing Buccaneers a disservice and are ruining the name of those brave men of the high seas. I'll contact my high school and tell them that referring to it's student body as the "Battling Bishops" has a negative connotation and hurts my feelings. NAU better get in line, Lumberjacks around the country might not want to be associated with a team from the SW. I personally, hope the New England Patriots change their name. I feel the word "patriot" is to be only used in songs that sing the praises of those men that fought for independence, not for a Super Bowl.

Then again, we don't want to use animals. Some animals are aggressive, like the Tiger or Panther and that might make some people uncomfortable. Let's just go with colors. No, wait. We can't use colors b/c someone will be the Montana Whites or the California Blacks and that'll cause trouble; especially when the whites beat the blacks. So, let's use letters: The Washington A's battle it out against the Seattle C's, Sunday night at 8 o'clock.

I've read your posts and you're one dumb fuck. You do not show basic understanding. Fuck you. I do believe how narrow you are.
I'm not Irish. The Irish can speak for themselves. Don't drag them into this, drama queen. You stray off topic and your tactics will never work with me.

[alyssa]

Stop drinking so much and organize yourselves. Having 20 of your tribe show up outside of a stadium is not going to do anything. You need to whine more like children do in order to wear down the powers that be to succeed in change.

But be careful with what you wish for. Eliminating the references to your race (Indians, Redskins, Braves, Sioux, Redmen, Warriors, etc.) will also reduce the awareness of your history.

There is some truth to this. Having a team named after a specific group can help to perpetuate that group's history. As someone who is primarily of Scandinavian origin, I don't get upset at the name Vikings or Norsemen. IMO, having the Seminoles or Sioux as a mascot isn't a bad thing as long as it is respectful and there is some relationship between the mascot and the tribes' traditions (i.e. if the mascot's dance is based on that tribe's traditional dance) and it helps to carry on and educate others about the tribe.

I do think that Redskins is derogatory and needs to be consigned to the dust heap of history.

I know mascot has many definitions. It means pet. We don't want to be pets because we are human beings.
Mascot can be a charm like a shrunken head that carries magic like a soul trapped inside it.
Mascot is skinwalking. In skinwalking we can take an animal like a buffalo and skin it and wear its skin to (magically) become a buffalo. This is how humans can become something else. This is what you are seeing with costumes. It's the same thing and it is inappropriate to do that to another person. The Washington NFL team is called R******* (I can't say or spell the word). To us that means a skinned (dead) Indian person.
It just goes on forever.

Washington uses a racist word as a mascot name. That's really all one needs to know in order to know it shouldn't be used. It's really that simple to understand. But there are still people who refuse. That tells you where they are.