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This is the U.S. Government we're talking about here, Mountie. Once something gets "implemented", it never gets "un-implemented". Our government isn't designed to shrink.
Something like this could. It's so massive, confusing, and so beneficial to insurance companies that it could be.

Of course, I still think we will ultimately adopt a single-payer model. Not because Obamacare helped usher us towards it because it's so great, but because single-payer > Obamacare.
Oh, lots of things COULD...like Homeland Security, Patriot Act, EPA, Dept of Education, etc., etc., etc.....they just never ARE.
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Something like this could. It's so massive, confusing, and so beneficial to insurance companies that it could be.

Of course, I still think we will ultimately adopt a single-payer model. Not because Obamacare helped usher us towards it because it's so great, but because single-payer > Obamacare.
Oh, lots of things COULD...like Homeland Security, Patriot Act, EPA, Dept of Education, etc., etc., etc.....they just never ARE.
God, you're dense. The only chance the GOP has to defeat Obamacare is letting it get implemented. Do you really think Clueless Cruz has a chance on his Cruzade? C'mon man!

I noticed that the first two you mentioned--Homeland Security and the PATRIOT Act--were Conk initiatives. Never heard from the TEA Party (that according to BDK existed while Bush was in office and opposed Bush) when they were being pushed through, or the Rx Drug Benefit legislation. Your Conk heroes are just as much to blame for the shit our country is experiencing as the Donks.

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ASUMountaineer wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Oh, lots of things COULD...like Homeland Security, Patriot Act, EPA, Dept of Education, etc., etc., etc.....they just never ARE.
God, you're dense. The only chance the GOP has to defeat Obamacare is letting it get implemented. Do you really think Clueless Cruz has a chance on his Cruzade? C'mon man!

I noticed that the first two you mentioned--Homeland Security and the PATRIOT Act--were Conk initiatives. Never heard from the TEA Party (that according to BDK existed while Bush was in office and opposed Bush) when they were being pushed through, or the Rx Drug Benefit legislation. Your Conk heroes are just as much to blame for the shit our country is experiencing as the Donks.

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Cruz was just speaking before congress and made this gem of a statement: "This is a bipartisan issue...on BOTH sides of the aisle!" :rofl: :rofl:
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AZGrizFan wrote:Cruz was just speaking before congress and made this gem of a statement: "This is a bipartisan issue...on BOTH sides of the aisle!" :rofl: :rofl:
Yep, real Presidential timber right there.... 8-)
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Ivytalk wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Cruz was just speaking before congress and made this gem of a statement: "This is a bipartisan issue...on BOTH sides of the aisle!" :rofl: :rofl:
Yep, real Presidential timber right there.... 8-)

Hey, the guy who said there are 57 states got elected. But then again look at what happened afterwards. Not good at all.
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God, you're dense. The only chance the GOP has to defeat Obamacare is letting it get implemented. Do you really think Clueless Cruz has a chance on his Cruzade? C'mon man!

I noticed that the first two you mentioned--Homeland Security and the PATRIOT Act--were Conk initiatives. Never heard from the TEA Party (that according to BDK existed while Bush was in office and opposed Bush) when they were being pushed through, or the Rx Drug Benefit legislation. Your Conk heroes are just as much to blame for the shit our country is experiencing as the Donks.

Don't be like Dback...
I'm a Libertarian. :coffee: I have no conk heros.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:
God, you're dense. The only chance the GOP has to defeat Obamacare is letting it get implemented. Do you really think Clueless Cruz has a chance on his Cruzade? C'mon man!

I noticed that the first two you mentioned--Homeland Security and the PATRIOT Act--were Conk initiatives. Never heard from the TEA Party (that according to BDK existed while Bush was in office and opposed Bush) when they were being pushed through, or the Rx Drug Benefit legislation. Your Conk heroes are just as much to blame for the **** our country is experiencing as the Donks.

Don't be like Dback...
I'm a Libertarian. :coffee: I have no conk heros.
That explains your support of McCain-Palin. :coffee: C'mon man, that's all you took from that post? xlolx
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The GOP has truly turned into the party of NO. Talk about poorly choosing your battles. Once again the military servicemen and women will suffer from this political infighting. One thing you never hear in Washington is answers, only bland statements and deflectionary retorts.

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I watched the GOP 2012 debates & when pretty much most, if not all of the candidates were asked about turning the economy around they almost universally talked of decreasing regulation & living in a market economy to spur competitiveness. Unfortunately, when it comes to health care these things couldn't be further from reality.

There is a surgical center on Oklahoma that has been all over the news for the past year because they don't take Medicare, or any government $$ and they list all their prices per procedure just like you'd see at a fast food restaurant. Ask a major hospital anywhere in the country to do that & watch them stutter & stammer around and give you 25 reasons why they can't. If everyone did that what you'd see is prices drop significantly at many places that up-charge you ridicuously. Who makes $$ in this current system? Hospitals, surgery centers and insurance carriers. Who loses? Us.
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This is the U.S. Government we're talking about here, Mountie. Once something gets "implemented", it never gets "un-implemented". Our government isn't designed to shrink.
Something like this could. It's so massive, confusing, and so beneficial to insurance companies that it could be.

Of course, I still think we will ultimately adopt a single-payer model. Not because Obamacare helped usher us towards it because it's so great, but because single-payer > Obamacare.
Why don't they just give us the coverage they give themselves?
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AZGrizFan wrote:Cruz was just speaking before congress and made this gem of a statement: "This is a bipartisan issue...on BOTH sides of the aisle!" :rofl: :rofl:
Bi-Partisan? Tea Partiers won't like that one bit.
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I'm a Libertarian. :coffee: I have no conk heros.
That explains your support of McCain-Palin. :coffee: C'mon man, that's all you took from that post? xlolx
I wasn't a Libertarian then. :coffee:
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So Cruz did a non-filibuster filibuster today? Glad I had my C-Span spam filter fixed. :nod:
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18 hours later, he's STILL going....
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houndawg wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:
Something like this could. It's so massive, confusing, and so beneficial to insurance companies that it could be.

Of course, I still think we will ultimately adopt a single-payer model. Not because Obamacare helped usher us towards it because it's so great, but because single-payer > Obamacare.
Why don't they just give us the coverage they give themselves?
Or, why don't they subject themselves to the ACA?
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That explains your support of McCain-Palin. :coffee: C'mon man, that's all you took from that post? xlolx
I wasn't a Libertarian then. :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote:18 hours later, he's STILL going....
You must be proud. :ohno:
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Now he's reading Atlas Shrugged.
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ASUMountaineer wrote:
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I wasn't a Libertarian then. :coffee:
:jack: Lame.
Hey, we all have to see the light at some point, right?
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AZGrizFan wrote:18 hours later, he's STILL going....
You must be proud. :ohno:
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My Dr. Seuss is better than his Dr. Seuss. :twocents:

If he ever runs for President, that clip will be on the first anti-Cruz negative ad, whether GOP or Dem. Bank on it.
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Ivytalk wrote:My Dr. Seuss is better than his Dr. Seuss. :twocents:

If he ever runs for President, that clip will be on the first anti-Cruz negative ad, whether GOP or Dem. Bank on it.
:lol: Yes, I think he hasn't much of a shot at President.

If Hillary runs, I would expect her statement in 2008 about keeping Lobbyists and their money in Washington to be aired rather quickly.
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Implement it and Conks will come around, led by the nose by Obama himself.

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