Eastern Washington @ Sam Houston State. The Rematch

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Re: Eastern Washington @ Sam Houston State. The Rematch

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Mvemjsunpx wrote:The Texas humidity plus Eastern's questionable run defense make Sam Houston the favorite, IMO. EWU could always chuck it up like last year to force a shootout, but keep in mind the Bearkats have a different defensive coordinator this year.
Not surprising, since you rarely think we will beat anyone save perhaps an Idaho State.

Also, we do a little bit more than "chuck it up there".


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Re: Eastern Washington @ Sam Houston State. The Rematch

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Mvemjsunpx wrote:The Texas humidity plus Eastern's questionable run defense make Sam Houston the favorite, IMO. EWU could always chuck it up like last year to force a shootout, but keep in mind the Bearkats have a different defensive coordinator this year.
Again, I think it's a little early to label our run defense as "questionable". Toledo is the only team that has run the ball on us with any kind of result. That's one game against a team that had a RB who will probably be a 1-3 round draft pick.


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Re: Eastern Washington @ Sam Houston State. The Rematch

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EWURanger wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:The Texas humidity plus Eastern's questionable run defense make Sam Houston the favorite, IMO. EWU could always chuck it up like last year to force a shootout, but keep in mind the Bearkats have a different defensive coordinator this year.
Not surprising, since you rarely think we will beat anyone save perhaps an Idaho State.

Also, we do a little bit more than "chuck it up there".


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Mvemjsunpx wrote:The Texas humidity plus Eastern's questionable run defense make Sam Houston the favorite, IMO. EWU could always chuck it up like last year to force a shootout, but keep in mind the Bearkats have a different defensive coordinator this year.
Again, I think it's a little early to label our run defense as "questionable". Toledo is the only team that has run the ball on us with any kind of result. That's one game against a team that had a RB who will probably be a 1-3 round draft pick.
NFL Draft Scout only has Fluellen as maybe a 7th. rounder. He's good, but probably not first-day good.

Toledo ran for over 300 on you. The other games were against a DII and an Oregon State team that's only run for 105 yards against its last two opponents combined.

And Sam Houston ran for 240 against TAMU.
Also, we do a little bit more than "chuck it up there".
Not in last year's semifinals you didn't. :thumb: ;)
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Clearly this is the game of the week and I'd love to see it. I suspect Sam Houston will run for 250 or more against Eastern. Though EWU is apt to "chuck it" all over the field too. The key is if SHU can contain EWU's QB and keep them one dimensional. This one should be high scoring and is essentially a toss up. However, considering the location I give Sam Houston a slight edge especially if it is hot & humid.
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Mvemjsunpx wrote:The Texas humidity plus Eastern's questionable run defense make Sam Houston the favorite, IMO. EWU could always chuck it up like last year to force a shootout, but keep in mind the Bearkats have a different defensive coordinator this year.
Again, I think it's a little early to label our run defense as "questionable". Toledo is the only team that has run the ball on us with any kind of result. That's one game against a team that had a RB who will probably be a 1-3 round draft pick.


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Which is interesting, because SHSU might have a RB who will probably be a 1-3 rd draft pick.
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Again, I think it's a little early to label our run defense as "questionable". Toledo is the only team that has run the ball on us with any kind of result. That's one game against a team that had a RB who will probably be a 1-3 round draft pick.


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Which is interesting, because SHSU might have a RB who will probably be a 1-3 rd draft pick.
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Mvemjsunpx wrote:The Texas humidity plus Eastern's questionable run defense make Sam Houston the favorite, IMO. EWU could always chuck it up like last year to force a shootout, but keep in mind the Bearkats have a different defensive coordinator this year.
Again, I think it's a little early to label our run defense as "questionable". Toledo is the only team that has run the ball on us with any kind of result. That's one game against a team that had a RB who will probably be a 1-3 round draft pick.


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They're also the only team you've played with any semblance of a running game. Coincidence?
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Grizalltheway wrote:
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Again, I think it's a little early to label our run defense as "questionable". Toledo is the only team that has run the ball on us with any kind of result. That's one game against a team that had a RB who will probably be a 1-3 round draft pick.


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They're also the only team you've played with any semblance of a running game. Coincidence?
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Grizalltheway wrote:
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Again, I think it's a little early to label our run defense as "questionable". Toledo is the only team that has run the ball on us with any kind of result. That's one game against a team that had a RB who will probably be a 1-3 round draft pick.


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They're also the only team you've played with any semblance of a running game. Coincidence?
You guys apparently just like to look at stats and come to conclusions. Yes, Toledo ran the ball a lot. We knew they would. As many yards as our defense gave up, they also stopped Toledo on several 3rd down situations. The game was still close in the 4th qtr. Our defense actually gave our offense a lot of opportunities to win that game - the O lost the game for us, not our run defense.


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EWURanger wrote:
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They're also the only team you've played with any semblance of a running game. Coincidence?
You guys apparently just like to look at stats and come to conclusions. Yes, Toledo ran the ball a lot. We knew they would. As many yards as our defense gave up, they also stopped Toledo on several 3rd down situations. The game was still close in the 4th qtr. Our defense actually gave our offense a lot of opportunities to win that game - the O lost the game for us, not our run defense.
It's not just stats. Eastern's run defense was mediocre last year and they didn't exactly return a ton in the front 7.
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Mvemjsunpx wrote:
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You guys apparently just like to look at stats and come to conclusions. Yes, Toledo ran the ball a lot. We knew they would. As many yards as our defense gave up, they also stopped Toledo on several 3rd down situations. The game was still close in the 4th qtr. Our defense actually gave our offense a lot of opportunities to win that game - the O lost the game for us, not our run defense.
It's not just stats. Eastern's run defense was mediocre last year and they didn't exactly return a ton in the front 7.
They return 2/3 starting LB's and both defensive tackles. Pulu and Hamlin aren't exactly slouches, either. The loss of last year's two starting ends is hurting the pass rush more than our run defense.

But anyway, under your reasoning, we should assume that Montana's pass defense should be close to the worst in the league again, yes?


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EWU by 21 or more points. :nod:
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Gil Dobie wrote:EWU by 21 or more points. :nod:

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Which is interesting, because SHSU might have a RB who will probably be a 1-3 rd draft pick.
No he won't. I actually looked up information on that recently. He's very good by FCS standards. But according to NFL Draft Scout he's 7th round to free agent (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/ds ... &genpos=RB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). In my experience NFL Draft Scout has been pretty good at projecting where people are going to go. I mean, maybe he might go in round 6 or something. But he's not going to be drafted in the first 3 rounds.

Doesn't mean he won't be a good NFL player either. I was watching the New Orleans Saints today and they've got a number of very good players who were either free agents or drafted in the later rounds. I'm just talking about where he's going to be drafted.
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Gil Dobie wrote:EWU by 21 or more points. :nod:

Not in Huntsville!

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EWURanger wrote:But anyway, under your reasoning, we should assume that Montana's pass defense should be close to the worst in the league again, yes?k
Montana's pass defense wasn't close to the worst in the league last year. There were 5 Big Sky teams with worse efficiency rating defense numbers, and 7 teams with worse Yds./Attempt allowed numbers.
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Mvemjsunpx wrote:
EWURanger wrote:But anyway, under your reasoning, we should assume that Montana's pass defense should be close to the worst in the league again, yes?k
Montana's pass defense wasn't close to the worst in the league last year. There were 5 Big Sky teams with worse efficiency rating defense numbers, and 7 teams with worse Yds./Attempt allowed numbers.
So you were 8th in pass defense efficiency in the Big Sky Conference. Congrats!
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kalm wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Montana's pass defense wasn't close to the worst in the league last year. There were 5 Big Sky teams with worse efficiency rating defense numbers, and 7 teams with worse Yds./Attempt allowed numbers.
So you were 8th in pass defense efficiency in the Big Sky Conference. Congrats!
Well, when there's 13 teams that's hardly "worst".
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I think the focus for EWU needs to be figuring out how to stop the SHSU option attack like they did in the second half of last year's semi's. I think the Eagles will move the ball just fine, SHSU replaced most of their secondary and it looks a little suspect to me. Gotta limit that option attack and get some hits on Bell when he tries to run the ball. Sincere and Flanders will get their yards, but hopefully our defense comes to play.


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EWURanger wrote:I think the focus for EWU needs to be figuring out how to stop the SHSU option attack like they did in the second half of last year's semi's. I think the Eagles will move the ball just fine, SHSU replaced most of their secondary and it looks a little suspect to me. Gotta limit that option attack and get some hits on Bell when he tries to run the ball. Sincere and Flanders will get their yards, but hopefully our defense comes to play.


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Our secondary scares me to death, especially against a throwing team like ewu.

Our offense goes as Flanders goes, stop him and put it on Bell should be the game plan. Bell is a good quarterback but we Kats know he hasn't exactly always delivered in pressure situations.

Don't look at the play calling to date to stay the same. Our schedule hasn't exactly forced us to show all of our cards. I look for a much different looking offense from this game on out. Hopefully a different looking defense too.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
wait for it. go john, bash TAMUs def. They are much worse than EWU or anyone in the SLC. So, yeah cant glean anything from that game.
Do I in particular really need to bash them? I mean, right now they're ranked 112th in FBS total defense. They are awful. Does that mean they're worse than EWU? Heck I don't know. But they're bad.
i guess know you now, looks like TAMU Def is better than EWU.the questions is who is better Dii west bama RB or Timothy Flanders :coffee:

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