The Perfect Republican Candidate...

[AZGrizFan]

Does he/she exist? According to David Francis and Eric Pianin of the Fiscal Times, the short list includes Chris Christie, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal, Ted Cruz & Dr. Ben Carson...but the perfect candidate's name is Rand Carson Rubio, or Chris Ryan Cruz, or Bobby Paul Bush or some other combination of traits and positions:

Policy Platform and Character Sketch of a viable Republican candidate:
• At the very least, the appearance of moderation on a number of social issues, from abortion to same sex marriage. Christie is the most moderate of the bunch, although he does oppose abortion.
• Conservative enough to win the base, but moderate enough to attract swing voters. Ben Carson has ignited the Republican base, but has also appealed to moderate voters through his anecdotes and medical experience.
• A candidate who reached out to all races, not just white voters. Carson, a Detroit native, has the potential to reach undecided African American voters, while Rubio and Bush have deep ties to the Latino community. Also, they both speak Spanish, a skill that Hillary Clinton lacks.
• A candidate that doesn’t race-bait or vilify minorities. Again, Carson, Rubio and Bush have the potential to reach minority voters.
• A candidate that can connect with young people. Rand Paul excited a lot of younger voters with his filibuster against the Obama administration’s drone policy and the nomination of John Brennan as the new CIA director. His speech spawned the term “bro-gressives,” or young progressive men who were attracted to Paul’s anti-drone stance.
• A candidate that is concerned with the well being of the “47 percent” of Americans dissed by Mitt Romney. Christie best embodies the GOP’s populist spirit, connecting with New Jersey voters from both parties. He has also been ready to set aside politics to help citizens.
• A candidate that is charismatic enough to sell Republican ideals to a public that has grown skeptical of the party. Ben Carson’s recent speeches have displayed this dynamism, and Christie has been able to relate to New Jersey voters.
• A candidate with reasonable views, as the public has grown tired of “birther” and “legitimate rape” theories. All of these candidates have avoided this kind of rhetoric, but a moderate female candidate would also help to win back women.
• Someone who can get rid of the “party of the rich” label. Christie appears to be the most capable of connecting with middle and working class voters.
• A policy wonk that can sell the public on Republican ideas. Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal are the two policy experts in this group, although they lack the salesmanship of someone like Chris Christie.

Unfortunately for the party, none of the Republican candidates fit this bill. But noted pollster John Zogby believes two stand out as having the most potential to compete in 2016.“The two strongest are Marco Rubio and Ben Carson because they offer the GOP the opportunity to stick with core principles while moving the ball on demographics,” Zogby told The Fiscal Times. “Both can be exciting campaigners and one of them is actually very smart. I really can see them exciting voters in Iowa and New Hampshire and there is nothing that hurts them with primary voters in South Carolina.”

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[HI54UNI]

Rubio's got no chance in Iowa. Rep. Steve King and to a lesser extent Sen. Chuck Grassley will ruin his chances over the shamnesty bill.

[blueballs]

Rubio's got no chance in Iowa. Rep. Steve King and to a lesser extent Sen. Chuck Grassley will ruin his chances over the shamnesty bill.

His whole trying to garner the hispanic vote with amnesty and then back track to the coservative base is a crock of shit. He is a smooth talking fraud who needs to be "primaried" when it is time for his re-election.

The only good thing I can say about my junior senator at this point is that he chased Charlie Crist to the democrat party.

[houndawg]

Does he/she exist? According to David Francis and Eric Pianin of the Fiscal Times, the short list includes Chris Christie, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal, Ted Cruz & Dr. Ben Carson...but the perfect candidate's name is Rand Carson Rubio, or Chris Ryan Cruz, or Bobby Paul Bush or some other combination of traits and positions:

Policy Platform and Character Sketch of a viable Republican candidate:
• At the very least, the appearance of moderation on a number of social issues, from abortion to same sex marriage. Christie is the most moderate of the bunch, although he does oppose abortion.
• Conservative enough to win the base, but moderate enough to attract swing voters. Ben Carson has ignited the Republican base, but has also appealed to moderate voters through his anecdotes and medical experience.
• A candidate who reached out to all races, not just white voters. Carson, a Detroit native, has the potential to reach undecided African American voters, while Rubio and Bush have deep ties to the Latino community. Also, they both speak Spanish, a skill that Hillary Clinton lacks.
• A candidate that doesn’t race-bait or vilify minorities. Again, Carson, Rubio and Bush have the potential to reach minority voters.
• A candidate that can connect with young people. Rand Paul excited a lot of younger voters with his filibuster against the Obama administration’s drone policy and the nomination of John Brennan as the new CIA director. His speech spawned the term “bro-gressives,” or young progressive men who were attracted to Paul’s anti-drone stance.
• A candidate that is concerned with the well being of the “47 percent” of Americans dissed by Mitt Romney. Christie best embodies the GOP’s populist spirit, connecting with New Jersey voters from both parties. He has also been ready to set aside politics to help citizens.
• A candidate that is charismatic enough to sell Republican ideals to a public that has grown skeptical of the party. Ben Carson’s recent speeches have displayed this dynamism, and Christie has been able to relate to New Jersey voters.
• A candidate with reasonable views, as the public has grown tired of “birther” and “legitimate rape” theories. All of these candidates have avoided this kind of rhetoric, but a moderate female candidate would also help to win back women.
• Someone who can get rid of the “party of the rich” label. Christie appears to be the most capable of connecting with middle and working class voters.
• A policy wonk that can sell the public on Republican ideas. Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal are the two policy experts in this group, although they lack the salesmanship of someone like Chris Christie.

Unfortunately for the party, none of the Republican candidates fit this bill. But noted pollster John Zogby believes two stand out as having the most potential to compete in 2016.“The two strongest are Marco Rubio and Ben Carson because they offer the GOP the opportunity to stick with core principles while moving the ball on demographics,” Zogby told The Fiscal Times. “Both can be exciting campaigners and one of them is actually very smart. I really can see them exciting voters in Iowa and New Hampshire and there is nothing that hurts them with primary voters in South Carolina.”

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The conks have really got a problem, their base is composed of racist fringe ideologists who are going to guarantee conk irrelevance for years to come. A good thing for the nation.

You can throw out Rand and Ryan right away, one is a creep and the other a twerp and neither will pull any female vote. Best bet is a Latino because of the number of conservative Latinos but the Republicans racist base won't allow it to happen.

Best chance in the general election would be Christie or Rubio with Niki Haley as VP candidate. Just remember that I tried to help after the bitch slapping coming in '16.

[ASUMountaineer]

Does he/she exist? According to David Francis and Eric Pianin of the Fiscal Times, the short list includes Chris Christie, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal, Ted Cruz & Dr. Ben Carson...but the perfect candidate's name is Rand Carson Rubio, or Chris Ryan Cruz, or Bobby Paul Bush or some other combination of traits and positions:

The conks have really got a problem, their base is composed of racist fringe ideologists who are going to guarantee conk irrelevance for years to come. A good thing for the nation.

You can throw out Rand and Ryan right away, one is a creep and the other a twerp and neither will pull any female vote. Best bet is a Latino because of the number of conservative Latinos but the Republicans racist base won't allow it to happen.

Best chance in the general election would be Christie or Rubio with Niki Haley as VP candidate. Just remember that I tried to help after the bitch slapping coming in '16.

The only people likely to get bitch-slapped in 2016 are the American people/voters.

[AZGrizFan]

The conks have really got a problem, their base is composed of racist fringe ideologists who are going to guarantee conk irrelevance for years to come. A good thing for the nation.

You can throw out Rand and Ryan right away, one is a creep and the other a twerp and neither will pull any female vote. Best bet is a Latino because of the number of conservative Latinos but the Republicans racist base won't allow it to happen.

Best chance in the general election would be Christie or Rubio with Niki Haley as VP candidate. Just remember that I tried to help after the bitch slapping coming in '16.

That's like saying the donk "base" is composed of communist fringe OWS homeless fucks....

On second thought...never mind.

[Pwns]

The reality is that donks have more single-issue voters and thus it's easier to assemble a coalition to win elections. The republicans on the other hand can't build a coalition because the many factions have become as incompatible as ever and the "terr'ism!" card isn't going to work anymore. How are you going to get the tea party types, the social conservatives, right leaning independents, and conservatives fed up with social issues under the same tent and behind one guy? The only way to do that is to make them fear the democratic candidate.

I think Cristie is a great candidate but he would get shellacked in the primaries unless he reinvented himself in which case he wouldn't be electable.

[GannonFan]

The reality is that donks have more single-issue voters and thus it's easier to assemble a coalition to win elections. The republicans on the other hand can't build a coalition because the many factions have become as incompatible as ever and the "terr'ism!" card isn't going to work anymore. How are you going to get the tea party types, the social conservatives, right leaning independents, and conservatives fed up with social issues under the same tent and behind one guy? The only way to do that is to make them fear the democratic candidate.

I think Cristie is a great candidate but he would get shellacked in the primaries unless he reinvented himself in which case he wouldn't be electable.

I'm always skeptical of people trying to take one or two past elections and saying that those elections will play out similiarly for years to come. The Dems thought the GOP was irrelevant and destined to lose elections for as far as the eye could see after the demolition in 2008, only to have the Dems implode and not only lose a super majority but lose one of the Houses of Congress in the very next election in 2010. And considering that both parties pretty much held serve in 2012 (neither party losing anything they already had) I don't see how anyone could say one party or the other is not electable at this time. Politics have very short memories, and there's always another election coming up.

[houndawg]

The reality is that donks have more single-issue voters and thus it's easier to assemble a coalition to win elections. The republicans on the other hand can't build a coalition because the many factions have become as incompatible as ever and the "terr'ism!" card isn't going to work anymore. How are you going to get the tea party types, the social conservatives, right leaning independents, and conservatives fed up with social issues under the same tent and behind one guy? The only way to do that is to make them fear the democratic candidate.

I think Cristie is a great candidate but he would get shellacked in the primaries unless he reinvented himself in which case he wouldn't be electable.

I'm always skeptical of people trying to take one or two past elections and saying that those elections will play out similiarly for years to come. The Dems thought the GOP was irrelevant and destined to lose elections for as far as the eye could see after the demolition in 2008,only to have the Dems implode and not only lose a super majority but lose one of the Houses of Congress in the very next election in 2010. And considering that both parties pretty much held serve in 2012 (neither party losing anything they already had) I don't see how anyone could say one party or the other is not electable at this time. Politics have very short memories, and there's always another election coming up.

Nice spin but the fact that Obama was reelected speaks volumes about the irrelevancy of the Republicans.

[houndawg]

The reality is that donks have more single-issue voters and thus it's easier to assemble a coalition to win elections. The republicans on the other hand can't build a coalition because the many factions have become as incompatible as ever and the "terr'ism!" card isn't going to work anymore. How are you going to get the tea party types, the social conservatives, right leaning independents, and conservatives fed up with social issues under the same tent and behind one guy? The only way to do that is to make them fear the democratic candidate.

I think Cristie is a great candidate but he would get shellacked in the primaries unless he reinvented himself in which case he wouldn't be electable.

Thats only because they have more voters, period. The Republicans are more single issue oriented than the Democrats. Exhibit A being abortion.

[houndawg]

The conks have really got a problem, their base is composed of racist fringe ideologists who are going to guarantee conk irrelevance for years to come. A good thing for the nation.

You can throw out Rand and Ryan right away, one is a creep and the other a twerp and neither will pull any female vote. Best bet is a Latino because of the number of conservative Latinos but the Republicans racist base won't allow it to happen.

Best chance in the general election would be Christie or Rubio with Niki Haley as VP candidate. Just remember that I tried to help after the bitch slapping coming in '16.

The only people likely to get bitch-slapped in 2016 are the American people/voters.

Well, that's a given in every election.

[Cap'n Cat]

Conks are fvcked for decades. In 200 years, Obama will be as revered as Washington.

Fvckin' right, man.

[AZGrizFan]

I'm always skeptical of people trying to take one or two past elections and saying that those elections will play out similiarly for years to come. The Dems thought the GOP was irrelevant and destined to lose elections for as far as the eye could see after the demolition in 2008,only to have the Dems implode and not only lose a super majority but lose one of the Houses of Congress in the very next election in 2010. And considering that both parties pretty much held serve in 2012 (neither party losing anything they already had) I don't see how anyone could say one party or the other is not electable at this time. Politics have very short memories, and there's always another election coming up.

Nice spin but the fact that Obama was reelected speaks volumes about the irrelevancy of the Republicans.

Can you tell me how many sitting presidents HAVEN'T been reelected in the last 50 years?

Rhetorical question: TWO. No matter the incomptence level, it's VERY difficult to unseat an incumbent...they have ALL the advantages....Bush and Obama are two shining examples of THAT.

[AZGrizFan]

The reality is that donks have more single-issue voters and thus it's easier to assemble a coalition to win elections. The republicans on the other hand can't build a coalition because the many factions have become as incompatible as ever and the "terr'ism!" card isn't going to work anymore. How are you going to get the tea party types, the social conservatives, right leaning independents, and conservatives fed up with social issues under the same tent and behind one guy? The only way to do that is to make them fear the democratic candidate.

I think Cristie is a great candidate but he would get shellacked in the primaries unless he reinvented himself in which case he wouldn't be electable.

Thats only because they have more voters, period. The Republicans are more single issue oriented than the Democrats. Exhibit A being abortion.

Exhibit A for Donks is Welfare.

[Cap'n Cat]

Thats only because they have more voters, period. The Republicans are more single issue oriented than the Democrats. Exhibit A being abortion.

Exhibit A for Donks is Welfare.

Ahem, big difference, hairball. Conks policy and practice perpetuates the welfare "state". Cuts to this, cuts to that. Few can educate or train their ways out. Just how Conks want it......

[CID1990]

The perfect candidate can only come from outside the two goat ropes known as the Ds and the Rs.

[houndawg]

The reality is that donks have more single-issue voters and thus it's easier to assemble a coalition to win elections. The republicans on the other hand can't build a coalition because the many factions have become as incompatible as ever and the "terr'ism!" card isn't going to work anymore. How are you going to get the tea party types, the social conservatives, right leaning independents, and conservatives fed up with social issues under the same tent and behind one guy? The only way to do that is to make them fear the democratic candidate.

I think Cristie is a great candidate but he would get shellacked in the primaries unless he reinvented himself in which case he wouldn't be electable.

Translation: Christie has no chance with the base because he is not a single issue candidate. (Not to mention praising Obama, the compassionate, the merciful, for his help when NJ needed it.)

[Ivytalk]

And Dyke1Bunghole and poundpud, those oracles of darkness, will lead the Donks to deserved oblivion next fall. Along with General Secretary of the Komintern, Kap'n Khundt.

[JohnStOnge]

[DSUrocks07]

This guy! ------>

Just give me 25 years (I'll be 52) to turn into a senile, self-centered old head. A prerequisite for running for office.

[houndawg]

And Dyke1Bunghole and poundpud, those oracles of darkness, will lead the Donks to deserved oblivion next fall. Along with General Secretary of the Komintern, Kap'n Khundt.

Envy is such an ugly emotion...

[Ivytalk]

And Dyke1Bunghole and poundpud, those oracles of darkness, will lead the Donks to deserved oblivion next fall. Along with General Secretary of the Komintern, Kap'n Khundt.

Envy is such an ugly emotion...

Envy what, Sage of Edwardsville? I'm 59 years old and have nothing to learn from you.

[houndawg]

Nice spin but the fact that Obama was reelected speaks volumes about the irrelevancy of the Republicans.

Can you tell me how many sitting presidents HAVEN'T been reelected in the last 50 years?

Rhetorical question: TWO. No matter the incomptence level, it's VERY difficult to unseat an incumbent...they have ALL the advantages....Bush and Obama are two shining examples of THAT.

FOUR.

Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Bush.

[BDKJMU]

Can you tell me how many sitting presidents HAVEN'T been reelected in the last 50 years?

Rhetorical question: TWO. No matter the incomptence level, it's VERY difficult to unseat an incumbent...they have ALL the advantages....Bush and Obama are two shining examples of THAT.

FOUR.

Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Bush.

[kalm]

This...great god almighty this! He was such a good candidate!

Too bad candidacies don't translate into on the field performance.