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Grizalltheway wrote:
89Hen wrote: No dodge. A speeding ticket is a motor vehicle offense, not a crime. DUI is a crime. Pot possession and use is a crime. Your analogy missed.
But speeding is generally much more dangerous (to oneself and others) than sitting on the couch smoking a joint. Can you really not see the distinction between the two, regardless of legality, or are you just being your usual obstinate self?
How can you take legality out of it?? Can you not see that the NFL punishing a legal activity would be moronic at best? That's all we're talking about here. The author overstepped when they tried to imply the NFL was wrong in suspending players for illegal activity while not suspending them for legal activity. Of course it's perfectly fine to argue that pot is less dangerous than alcohol as you all have been doing here, but it's SHEER STUPIDITY to suggest the NFL should have been suspending players for having a couple beers.
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BTW, I think this discussion has run it's course because we are down to arguing over minutae on billboards. I think we agree that we don't see eye to eye on the big picture.
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89Hen wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
But speeding is generally much more dangerous (to oneself and others) than sitting on the couch smoking a joint. Can you really not see the distinction between the two, regardless of legality, or are you just being your usual obstinate self?
How can you take legality out of it?? Can you not see that the NFL punishing a legal activity would be moronic at best? That's all we're talking about here. The author overstepped when they tried to imply the NFL was wrong in suspending players for illegal activity while not suspending them for legal activity. Of course it's perfectly fine to argue that pot is less dangerous than alcohol as you all have been doing here, but it's SHEER STUPIDITY to suggest the NFL should have been suspending players for having a couple beers.
Speeding is illegal.
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89Hen wrote:BTW, I think this discussion has run it's course because we are down to arguing over minutae on billboards. I think we agree that we don't see eye to eye on the big picture.
Surrender accepted! :mrgreen:
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89Hen wrote:BTW, I think this discussion has run it's course because we are down to arguing over minutae on billboards. I think we agree that we don't see eye to eye on the big picture.

You're aguing minutae and not seeing the big picture. :nod:

Your kid needs a ride home from a party. Who would you rather have drive him home?

1. The kid that drank 9 Keystone Lights or
2. The kid who smoked half a hippy stick

*No dodging, you have to choose one.
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89Hen wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
But speeding is generally much more dangerous (to oneself and others) than sitting on the couch smoking a joint. Can you really not see the distinction between the two, regardless of legality, or are you just being your usual obstinate self?
How can you take legality out of it?? Can you not see that the NFL punishing a legal activity would be moronic at best? That's all we're talking about here. The author overstepped when they tried to imply the NFL was wrong in suspending players for illegal activity while not suspending them for legal activity. Of course it's perfectly fine to argue that pot is less dangerous than alcohol as you all have been doing here, but it's SHEER STUPIDITY to suggest the NFL should have been suspending players for having a couple beers.
You missed the point, again.
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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: How can you take legality out of it?? Can you not see that the NFL punishing a legal activity would be moronic at best? That's all we're talking about here. The author overstepped when they tried to imply the NFL was wrong in suspending players for illegal activity while not suspending them for legal activity. Of course it's perfectly fine to argue that pot is less dangerous than alcohol as you all have been doing here, but it's SHEER STUPIDITY to suggest the NFL should have been suspending players for having a couple beers.
Speeding is illegal.
GFY. Your bait has worn out its welcome. 8-)
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D1B wrote:
89Hen wrote:BTW, I think this discussion has run it's course because we are down to arguing over minutae on billboards. I think we agree that we don't see eye to eye on the big picture.

You're aguing minutae and not seeing the big picture. :nod:

Your kid needs a ride home from a party. Who would you rather have drive him home?

1. The kid that drank 9 Keystone Lights or
2. The kid who smoked half a hippy stick

*No dodging, you have to choose one.
He will call me.
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D1B wrote:
89Hen wrote: How can you take legality out of it?? Can you not see that the NFL punishing a legal activity would be moronic at best? That's all we're talking about here. The author overstepped when they tried to imply the NFL was wrong in suspending players for illegal activity while not suspending them for legal activity. Of course it's perfectly fine to argue that pot is less dangerous than alcohol as you all have been doing here, but it's SHEER STUPIDITY to suggest the NFL should have been suspending players for having a couple beers.
You missed the point, again.
No, you did. Gee, this is fun. :roll:
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89Hen wrote:
D1B wrote:

You're aguing minutae and not seeing the big picture. :nod:

Your kid needs a ride home from a party. Who would you rather have drive him home?

1. The kid that drank 9 Keystone Lights or
2. The kid who smoked half a hippy stick

*No dodging, you have to choose one.
He will call me.

No, he won't, Super Dad.

Now pick one. :coffee:
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89Hen wrote:
D1B wrote:
You missed the point, again.
No, you did. Gee, this is fun. :roll:
Well, you're the Almighty 89Hen! You certainly got your point, but you missed everything else. :lol:
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89Hen wrote:
D1B wrote:

You're aguing minutae and not seeing the big picture. :nod:

Your kid needs a ride home from a party. Who would you rather have drive him home?

1. The kid that drank 9 Keystone Lights or
2. The kid who smoked half a hippy stick

*No dodging, you have to choose one.
He will call me.
He said no dodging. :coffee:
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D1B wrote:
89Hen wrote: He will call me.

No, he won't, Super Dad.

Now pick one. :coffee:
Yes, he will. :nod:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
89Hen wrote: He will call me.
He said no dodging. :coffee:
Bully for him.
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89Hen wrote:
D1B wrote:

Hen to counter with - "So because people don't die, its safe. :suspicious: " in 3....2....1.....
Pretty much. I've never heard of anyone die of a nicotine overdose. Guess cigarettes are OK afterall. :thumb:
:ohno:

Nicotine is more lethal than either strychnine or arsenic. :nod:
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89Hen wrote:
D1B wrote:

No, he won't, Super Dad.

Now pick one. :coffee:
Yes, he will. :nod:
:rofl: Yep, sure thing Super Dad!

Game, set and match - Division One Boy. :nod: :lol:
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houndawg wrote:
89Hen wrote: Pretty much. I've never heard of anyone die of a nicotine overdose. Guess cigarettes are OK afterall. :thumb:
:ohno:

Nicotine is more lethal than either strychnine or arsenic. :nod:
Heello...89 cricketchirp....helllo...is this thing on?
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Hey look this thread's still going
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89Hen wrote:
D1B wrote:

No, he won't, Super Dad.

Now pick one. :coffee:
Yes, he will. :nod:
Most likely he's already developed irrational and negative attitudes towards weed and positive impressions of beer. This is a dangerous combo cuz alcohol so freaking dangerous.
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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:
Speeding is illegal.
GFY. Your bait has worn out its welcome. 8-)
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houndawg wrote:
houndawg wrote:
:ohno:

Nicotine is more lethal than either strychnine or arsenic. :nod:
Heello...89 cricketchirp....helllo...is this thing on?
Sorry, was out on a smoke break. I've never heard of anyone die of a nicotine overdose.
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89Hen wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Heello...89 cricketchirp....helllo...is this thing on?
Sorry, was out on a smoke break. I've never heard of anyone die of a nicotine overdose.
Answer the question, coward. :coffee:
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Marijuana prevents or cures several cancers, according to the government's own Cancer Institute..... :coffee:

In a recent report, the National Cancer Institute (NCI), part of the Federal government’s National Institutes of Health (NIH), stated that marijuana “inhibited the survival of both estrogen receptor–positive and estrogen receptor–negative breast cancer cell lines.” The same report showed marijuana slows or stops the growth of certain lung cancer cells and suggested that marijuana may provide “risk reduction and treatment of colorectal cancer.” In Case You Missed It, Government Confirms And Reports That Marijuana Prevents Or Cures Certain CancersReferring to the NCI report, Patient Rights attorney Matthew Pappas said, “The Federal government’s continuing attack on people prescribed medical cannabis by their doctors is hypocritical considering the benefits reported by its own National Cancer Institute.” Pappas represents patients in defending their right to reasonably obtain medical marijuana. The patients contend the Federal government and various municipalities are trying to prevent them from obtaining cannabis for medical purposes in direct contravention of state laws. “Cities that ban dispensaries are denying patients the ability to obtain a medicine the Federal government’s National Institutes of Health says fights cancer and they’re doing it with the Obama Administration’s help.” Recently, the City of Los Angeles repealed its ban of medical marijuana collectives after Bill Rosendahl, a member of its city council diagnosed with cancer and prescribed medical marijuana said to fellow council members about the ban, “You want to kill me? You want to throw me under the bus?” The NCI report also examined whether patients who smoke marijuana rather than ingesting it orally are exposed to a higher risk of lung and certain digestive system cancers. According to the government, 19 studies “failed to demonstrate statistically significant associations between marijuana inhalation and lung cancer.” The report also identified a separate study of 611 lung cancer patients that showed marijuana was “not associated with an increased risk of lung cancer or other upper aerodigestive tract cancers and found no positive associations with any cancer type.” In the area of prostate cancer, the NCI report was inconclusive and suggested further research was necessary. In its report, the National Cancer Institute also identified a “study of intratumoral injection of delta-9-THC in patients with recurrent glioblastoma” that showed tumor reduction in the test participants. Despite the Federal government sanctioned and authorized NCI report, Pappas said Congress and the Obama Administration have continued to thwart marijuana research. In an announced effort to displace state medical marijuana laws, the Office of National Drug Control Policy described “medical” marijuana as a “myth” fueling “troubling misconceptions” in documents found on its website. The Federal government appears to be focused on creating more chemical drugs, many of which are the subject of various attorney television commercials seeking out those adversely impacted by those drugs. Pappas said both the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Office of National Drug Control Policy continue to assert marijuana lacks any medicinal value despite the research showing cannabis reduces certain cancer risks and inhibits the growth of tumor cells. He also commented that the Federal government’s anti-marijuana position contributes to and encourages prejudice and public misconception about the legitimate use of medical cannabis as treatment for seriously ill patients. In addition to anti-cancer properties, separate research reported marijuana appears to have “profound nerve-protective and brain-enhancing properties that could potentially treat many neurodegenerative disorders.” In its report, the National Cancer Institute stated cannabis effectively treats insomnia and referenced a placebo-controlled study in cancer patients showing increased quality of sleep and relaxation in those treated with tetrahydrocannabinol, an active component in marijuana. Responding to a White House statement that only a small percentage of patients prescribed medical cannabis under state laws use it to treat cancer, Pappas said “marijuana isn’t just for cancer or AIDS patients – it can also treat, for example, sleeplessness.” Although generally not a life threatening condition, Pappas referred to insomnia as a health issue regularly treated with prescription drugs zolpidem (brand name Ambien) and eszopiclone (brand name Lunesta). According to their manufacturers’ websites, zolpidem and eszopiclone have been shown to cause severe side effects including aggressiveness, hallucinations, confusion, or suicidal thoughts. Pappas noted that, unlike those drugs, studies on insomnia similar to those reported by the National Cancer Institute show medical marijuana effectively treats insomnia at a far lower cost and with fewer side effects. Marijuana has also been prescribed for glaucoma, multiple sclerosis, chronic pain, and a variety of other physical and mental conditions. Addressing the White House website statement that medical marijuana should remain criminally illegal under federal law, Pappas said that “with every drug, the doctor must consider the benefits versus any possible side effects. In its 3000-plus year history of medicinal use, there has never been a known, confirmed death caused by overdose of marijuana. To suggest that prescription drugs known to have severe negative side effects are alright and that marijuana can only be used for cancer or AIDS is nonsensical. It demonstrates how the Federal government’s decision to usurp state sovereignty is harming people because burdening citizens with federal criminal records based on medical marijuana provided for under state law is simply wrong. To continue outlawing the use of a drug shown to have life-saving, anti-cancer benefits that has been used safely as a medication for thousands of years is irresponsible.”

ALSO READ:Jan., 2013 National Cancer Institute PDQ® report on cannabis July, 2009 NIH report on cannabis reducing neck and head squamous cell carcinoma Nov., 2012 NIH report on cannabis breast cancer treatment Report on study showing smoked marijuana does not cause cancer Report on neuroprotective benefits of marijuana White House “Fact Sheet” on Marijuana Legalization Office of National Drug Control Policy documents: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default ... -28-12.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default ... packet.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; For more information, contact Advocates for the Disabled and Seriously Ill at (213) 531-1788. Read more at: http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/0 ... ncers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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D1B wrote:Marijuana prevents or cures several cancers, according to the government's own Cancer Institute..... :coffee:
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