Good History of Conk War On Government

[Cap'n Cat]

http://www.governmentisgood.com/articles.php?aid=9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The hundreds of you out there straddling the fence between Conk and Donk oughta take some time to go through this terrific website, http://www.governmentisgood.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, and read up on the facts about government, eschewing the blowhard exhalations of dicks like Z and IvyKunt and BJDUNK and Baldy.

"The Anti-Government Campaign" chronicles the birth and rise of the Grover Norquist and Sarah Palin and Baldy and Glenn Beck and Z's of the world and illuminates their "raisons d' Conk". Yeah, it's a long article and is likely beyond the flea-like attention span of your average Big Sky Conf poster, but try to stick with it.

There is a war on government in this country. It is being waged by a coalition of powerful political groups that seeks to demonize government and shrink it dramatically. The aim of this well-organized political campaign is to slash taxes, radically reduce social spending, and undermine regulatory programs.

If there is one person who for many years has exemplified this anti-government campaign it has been Grover Norquist who heads up Americans for Tax Reform. He is one of the most powerful conservative figures in Washington D.C. and he is a leading advocate of slashing taxes and dismantling government programs.

Every week he hosts a breakfast meeting at his organization’s headquarters on L Street in Washington. And Norquist has always made it clear what the ultimate aim of all of this activity is: “My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."


How did we reach the point where this kind of extreme hatred for government has became part of mainstream politics in this country? Where did this anti-government movement come from?


Read the article.....

[CAA Flagship]

There is a war on government in this country. It is being waged by a coalition of powerful political groups that seeks to demonize government and shrink it dramatically.

Meh. I think the "war" started with our founding fathers.

[TheDancinMonarch]

If the War on Government is supposed to have anything to do with making the government smaller, then I think those leading the war may need to check their strategies as it would appear that they are losing very badly. The last time I checked the only thing about the government that's getting smaller is its' brain. The rest of it is quite bloated. Both the sides in this "battle", the colorfully named Conks and Donks are both responsible for the increase in the size of the government. So sometime I wonder exactly what the argument is about.

[JohnStOnge]

Where did this anti-government movement come from?

Thomas Jefferson and company. They'd be HORRIFIED at the scope and level of power associated with the Federal government of today. They'd ask us what the hell we did with the opportunity that was given us by their revolution.

[houndawg]

http://www.governmentisgood.com/articles.php?aid=9

The hundreds of you out there straddling the fence between Conk and Donk oughta take some time to go through this terrific website, http://www.governmentisgood.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, and read up on the facts about government, eschewing the blowhard exhalations of dicks like Z and IvyKunt and BJDUNK and Baldy.

"The Anti-Government Campaign" chronicles the birth and rise of the Grover Norquist and Sarah Palin and Baldy and Glenn Beck and Z's of the world and illuminates their "raisons d' Conk". Yeah, it's a long article and is likely beyond the flea-like attention span of your average Big Sky Conf poster, but try to stick with it.

There is a war on government in this country. It is being waged by a coalition of powerful political groups that seeks to demonize government and shrink it dramatically. The aim of this well-organized political campaign is to slash taxes, radically reduce social spending, and undermine regulatory programs.

If there is one person who for many years has exemplified this anti-government campaign it has been Grover Norquist who heads up Americans for Tax Reform. He is one of the most powerful conservative figures in Washington D.C. and he is a leading advocate of slashing taxes and dismantling government programs.

Every week he hosts a breakfast meeting at his organization’s headquarters on L Street in Washington. And Norquist has always made it clear what the ultimate aim of all of this activity is: “My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."


How did we reach the point where this kind of extreme hatred for government has became part of mainstream politics in this country? Where did this anti-government movement come from?


Read the article.....

blowhard exhalations



Conks want less government for the same reason bank robbers want less cops.

[Baldy]

http://www.governmentisgood.com/articles.php?aid=9

The hundreds of you out there straddling the fence between Conk and Donk oughta take some time to go through this terrific website, http://www.governmentisgood.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, and read up on the facts about government, eschewing the blowhard exhalations of dicks like Z and IvyKunt and BJDUNK and Baldy.

"The Anti-Government Campaign" chronicles the birth and rise of the Grover Norquist and Sarah Palin and Baldy and Glenn Beck and Z's of the world and illuminates their "raisons d' Conk". Yeah, it's a long article and is likely beyond the flea-like attention span of your average Big Sky Conf poster, but try to stick with it.

There is a war on government in this country. It is being waged by a coalition of powerful political groups that seeks to demonize government and shrink it dramatically. The aim of this well-organized political campaign is to slash taxes, radically reduce social spending, and undermine regulatory programs.

If there is one person who for many years has exemplified this anti-government campaign it has been Grover Norquist who heads up Americans for Tax Reform. He is one of the most powerful conservative figures in Washington D.C. and he is a leading advocate of slashing taxes and dismantling government programs.

Every week he hosts a breakfast meeting at his organization’s headquarters on L Street in Washington. And Norquist has always made it clear what the ultimate aim of all of this activity is: “My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."


How did we reach the point where this kind of extreme hatred for government has became part of mainstream politics in this country? Where did this anti-government movement come from?


Read the article.....

governmentisgood.com

"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground." - Thomas Jefferson

Why do you and hounddawg hate freedom and liberty so much?

[D1B]

Every week he hosts a breakfast meeting at his organization’s headquarters on L Street in Washington. And Norquist has always made it clear what the ultimate aim of all of this activity is: “My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."

Yeah, and he'll keep increasing military spending and funding the war on drugs like a typical stupid fucking conk.

LMAO at Ivykunt.

[kalm]

In your face JSO!

Of course, there were conservatives (like Hamilton and Adams) in Jefferson's time, too, who took exception, thinking that the trickle-down theory that had dominated feudal Europe for ten centuries was a stable and healthy form of governance. Jefferson took exception, in an 1809 letter to members of his Democratic Republican Party (now called the Democratic Party): "The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government."

But, conservatives say, government is the problem, not the solution.

Of course, they can't explain how it was that the repeated series of huge tax cuts for the wealthy by the Herbert Hoover administration brought us the Great Depression, while raising taxes to provide for an active and interventionist government to protect the rights of labor to organize throughout the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s led us to the Golden Age of the American Middle Class. (The top tax rate in 1930 under Hoover was 25 percent, and even that was only paid by about a fifth of wealthy Americans. Thirty years later, the top tax rate was 91 percent, and held at 70 percent until Reagan began dismantling the middle class. As the top rate dropped, so did the middle class it helped create.)

Thomas Jefferson pointed out, in an 1816 letter to William H. Crawford, "Every society has a right to fix the fundamental principles of its association." He also pointed out in that letter that some people - and businesses - would prefer that government not play referee to the game of business, not fix rules that protect labor or provide for the protection of the commons and the public good.

We must, Jefferson wrote to Crawford, "...say to all [such] individuals, that if they contemplate pursuits beyond the limits of these principles and involving dangers which the society chooses to avoid, they must go somewhere else for their exercise; that we want no citizens, and still less ephemeral and pseudo-citizens [like corporations], on such terms. We may exclude them from our territory, as we do persons infected with disease."

Most of the Founders advocated - and all ultimately passed - tariffs to protect domestic industries and workers. Seventy years later, Abraham Lincoln actively stood up for the right for labor to organize, intervening in several strikes to stop corporations and local governments from using hired goon squads to beat and murder strikers.

But conservative economics - the return of ancient feudalism - rose up after Lincoln's death and reigned through the Gilded Age, creating both great wealth and a huge population of what today we call the "working poor." American reaction to these disparities gave birth to the Populist, Progressive, and modern Labor movements. Two generations later, Franklin Roosevelt brought us out of Herbert Hoover's conservative-economics-produced Great Depression and bequeathed us with more than a half-century of prosperity.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0312-08.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Baldy]

In your face JSO!

Of course, there were conservatives (like Hamilton and Adams) in Jefferson's time, too, who took exception, thinking that the trickle-down theory that had dominated feudal Europe for ten centuries was a stable and healthy form of governance. Jefferson took exception, in an 1809 letter to members of his Democratic Republican Party (now called the Democratic Party): "The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government."

But, conservatives say, government is the problem, not the solution.

Of course, they can't explain how it was that the repeated series of huge tax cuts for the wealthy by the Herbert Hoover administration brought us the Great Depression, while raising taxes to provide for an active and interventionist government to protect the rights of labor to organize throughout the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s led us to the Golden Age of the American Middle Class. (The top tax rate in 1930 under Hoover was 25 percent, and even that was only paid by about a fifth of wealthy Americans. Thirty years later, the top tax rate was 91 percent, and held at 70 percent until Reagan began dismantling the middle class. As the top rate dropped, so did the middle class it helped create.)

Thomas Jefferson pointed out, in an 1816 letter to William H. Crawford, "Every society has a right to fix the fundamental principles of its association." He also pointed out in that letter that some people - and businesses - would prefer that government not play referee to the game of business, not fix rules that protect labor or provide for the protection of the commons and the public good.

We must, Jefferson wrote to Crawford, "...say to all [such] individuals, that if they contemplate pursuits beyond the limits of these principles and involving dangers which the society chooses to avoid, they must go somewhere else for their exercise; that we want no citizens, and still less ephemeral and pseudo-citizens [like corporations], on such terms. We may exclude them from our territory, as we do persons infected with disease."

Most of the Founders advocated - and all ultimately passed - tariffs to protect domestic industries and workers. Seventy years later, Abraham Lincoln actively stood up for the right for labor to organize, intervening in several strikes to stop corporations and local governments from using hired goon squads to beat and murder strikers.

But conservative economics - the return of ancient feudalism - rose up after Lincoln's death and reigned through the Gilded Age, creating both great wealth and a huge population of what today we call the "working poor." American reaction to these disparities gave birth to the Populist, Progressive, and modern Labor movements. Two generations later, Franklin Roosevelt brought us out of Herbert Hoover's conservative-economics-produced Great Depression and bequeathed us with more than a half-century of prosperity.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0312-08.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[kalm]

In your face JSO!



http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0312-08.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Government..and history is a bitch!

[Baldy]

Government..and history is a bitch!

So is spin, cherry picking, deception, and obfuscation.

[kalm]

Government..and history is a bitch!

So is spin, cherry picking, deception, and obfuscation.

Exactly!

[Baldy]

So is spin, cherry picking, deception, and obfuscation.

Exactly!

Good. Glad to know you realize that "article" isn't worth the paper it was written on (figuratively).

[kalm]

Exactly!

Good. Glad to know you realize that "article" isn't worth the paper it was written on (figuratively).

"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government."

"Every society has a right to fix the fundamental principles of its association."... "some people - and businesses - would prefer that government not play referee to the game of business, not fix rules that protect labor or provide for the protection of the commons and the public good."

"We must say to all [such] individuals, that if they contemplate pursuits beyond the limits of these principles and involving dangers which the society chooses to avoid, they must go somewhere else for their exercise; that we want no citizens, and still less ephemeral and pseudo-citizens [like corporations], on such terms. We may exclude them from our territory, as we do persons infected with disease."

- Thomas Jefferson

Gawdamm pesky founders...

[Baldy]

@ the [bracketology]

(but at least you stopped pimping the article)

Anyone who knows anything about Jefferson knows he despised the coming industrialization of the young United States, and preferred a more agrarian society.