Biden: War without approval of Congress is impeachable

[Ibanez]

In other words, you agree that you absolutely don't want to make any personal sacrifices for the actions you say are absolutely necessary.

Typical, weak minded fool.

Glad you cleared that up.

I was approximately 10 when the incident in Rwanda happened. Should I have suited up and grabbed a rifle?

Muslin children do.

[Ibanez]

That is what I call, good ole 'Merican ingenuity. Why fight your enemy when you can get another enemy to fight? Kill two birds with one stone.

Why give them weapons or money when they can kill each other with machetes, stones, and/or soviet era equipment?

Our weapons will make it go quicker.

[houndawg]

That is what I call, good ole 'Merican ingenuity. Why fight your enemy when you can get another enemy to fight? Kill two birds with one stone.

Why give them weapons or money when they can kill each other with machetes, stones, and/or soviet era equipment?

= no profits for us.

They're going to kill each other anyway, might as well make some cash while they're doing it.

[Ibanez]

If Barack Obama decides to attack the Syrian regime, he has ensured – for the very first time in history – that the United States will be on the same side as al-Qa’ida.
Quite an alliance! Was it not the Three Musketeers who shouted “All for one and one for all” each time they sought combat? This really should be the new battle cry if – or when – the statesmen of the Western world go to war against Bashar al-Assad.

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[YoUDeeMan]

In other words, you agree that you absolutely don't want to make any personal sacrifices for the actions you say are absolutely necessary.

Typical, weak minded fool.

Glad you cleared that up.

I was approximately 10 when the incident in Rwanda happened. Should I have suited up and grabbed a rifle?

Don't worry about the past, there is plenty of violence that remains in Rwanda. In fact, you can get yourself a passport and travel all over the world to try your hand at stopping bad things you think absolutely need to be addressed.

Or, typically, you can b!tch and cry that it absolutely has to be done...by someone else...and at someone else's expense.

Indeed, you are far too cowardly and conservative to think you should get involved directly...let other people, especially the poor's bodies and the wealthy's money, do the stuff that "absolutely" needs to be done.


GrizHalfWit...the ultimate closet conservative.

[Cap'n Cat]

Hoping Obama doesn't cave to the craven, bloodthirsty, financial inclinations of US chicken hawks and do something stupid, ala' W. Conks are looking for a pile of shit to pin on his teflon blazer and have been unsuccessful; even the Affordable care Act was upheld by the Supremes.

Cap' Cat puts on his Tea Party hat and sez, "No more American kids dyin' in, and no more American tax dollars goin' to, the world's anus. Give the Chinks and Drunkskies an opportunity to do something positive for once."

[expandspanos]

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Dennis Kucinich says attack on Syria would make U.S. "al Qaida's air force"

Former Cleveland congressman Dennis Kucinich, who has met repeatedly with Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad, was quoted yesterday in a Capitol Hill newspaper as saying that a U.S. military strike on Syria would turn the U.S. military into “al Qaida's air force.”

Kucinich, a fervent opponent of U.S. military engagement in Iraq - told The Hill that intervention in Syria would ensnare the United States in another war and embolden the Islamist militants fighting Bashar Assad's regime.

“So what, we're about to become Al Qaida's air force now?” Kucinich told the publication. “This is a very, very serious matter that has broad implications internationally."

According to the Hill, Kucinich also "raised doubts" about claims the Syrian military - which is controlled by Assad - killed hundreds of people with chemical weapons last week. He accused the Obama administration of “rushing” into a potential “World War Three” based on questionable evidence.

“This is being used as a pretext,” he said in the interview. The verdict is in before the facts have been gathered. What does that tell you?”

After hundreds of people were killed in a chemical weapons attack outside Damascus last week, the Obama administration has said it is contemplating a military response to that action that would not be designed to take down Assad's regime.

A former mayor of Cleveland, Kucinich was elected to Congress in 1996 and served until he lost a primary battle to Toledo Democratic Rep. Marcy Kaptur after Republicans who controlled Ohio's redistricting process put them into the same district.

In 2011, Kucinich was widely criticized after Syrian media quoted him as saying Assad is “highly loved and appreciated by the Syrians.” Kucinich said his remarks were mistranslated.

[expandspanos]

Syria UN envoy says rebels used chemical weapons

Syria’s envoy to the UN Bashar Jaafari on Wednesday accused rebel forces of using chemical weapons to “bring about military intervention and aggression against Syria.” Many facts “tend to prove the innocence of the Syrian government, which has been subject to false accusations,” AFP quoted the ambassador as saying. The West and Turkey “have enabled terrorist groups to create a laboratory for chemical weapons on Turkish territory with materials provided by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar… and to bring these chemical weapons to Syria for use,” he said.

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Funny how our "media" doesn't ever report on this angle, isn't it? Have to invade Syria.

[BDKJMU]

Biden:
"...I teach separation of powers and constitutional law. This is something I know. So I got together and brought a group of constitutional scholars together to write a piece that I'm going to deliver to the whole United State Senate pointing out the President has no constitutional authority...to take this nation to war against a county of 70 million people unless we're attacked or unless there is proof we are about to be attacked. And if he does, if he does, I would move to impeach him....."
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013 ... -Authority" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So you're saying Biden was playing politics? Exactly like you are with this post? Two peas in a pod, you and Joe. Congrats!

No, I'm saying Biden would be the ultimate HYPOCRITE by not calling for Obama's impeachment if Obama orders military action without 1st seeking Congressional approval..

[BDKJMU]

Remember how the lefties use to rant about Bush conducting an illegal war in Iraq? Bush sought and obtained Congressional approval before taking action in BOTH Afghanistan and Iraq.

Growing Bipartisan Coalition Urges Obama to Seek Congressional Authorization for Syrian Strike
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... an-strike/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[kalm]

Remember how the lefties use to rant about Bush conducting an illegal war in Iraq? Bush sought and obtained Congressional approval before taking action in BOTH Afghanistan and Iraq.

Growing Bipartisan Coalition Urges Obama to Seek Congressional Authorization for Syrian Strike
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... an-strike/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But do you think we should attack? Or does BDK side with Hezbollah, Iran, and the Russkies on this one. Seriously and all politics aside...are you with us (and AQ) or against us?

[Ivytalk]

Remember how the lefties use to rant about Bush conducting an illegal war in Iraq? Bush sought and obtained Congressional approval before taking action in BOTH Afghanistan and Iraq.

Growing Bipartisan Coalition Urges Obama to Seek Congressional Authorization for Syrian Strike
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... an-strike/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But do you think we should attack? Or does BDK side with Hezbollah, Iran, and the Russkies on this one. Seriously and all politics aside...are you with us (and AQ) or against us?

Exactly.Both sides suck. We have no pressing interests here. Stay the fuck out.

[BDKJMU]

Remember how the lefties use to rant about Bush conducting an illegal war in Iraq? Bush sought and obtained Congressional approval before taking action in BOTH Afghanistan and Iraq.

Growing Bipartisan Coalition Urges Obama to Seek Congressional Authorization for Syrian Strike
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... an-strike/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But do you think we should attack? Or does BDK side with Hezbollah, Iran, and the Russkies on this one. Seriously and all politics aside...are you with us (and AQ) or against us?

Unless they have WMDs that could be used against us, not our fight. Let them kill each other. F em.

[Col Hogan]

Remember how the lefties use to rant about Bush conducting an illegal war in Iraq? Bush sought and obtained Congressional approval before taking action in BOTH Afghanistan and Iraq.

Growing Bipartisan Coalition Urges Obama to Seek Congressional Authorization for Syrian Strike
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... an-strike/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But do you think we should attack? Or does BDK side with Hezbollah, Iran, and the Russkies on this one. Seriously and all politics aside...are you with us (and AQ) or against us?

If we do attack, what is the end game...or do we just lob a few cruise missiles and call it a day and feel all warm inside because we did something???

[YoUDeeMan]

Calling dback, UNHSillyCat, jellybean, Ralph, and the rest of the leftist brigade...

I expect you all to go down to Washington to demand that Obushma stop his nonsense.

And where are the body counts in Afghanistan?

Yoo-hoo! Don't forget your roots, ladies.

[Skjellyfetti]

Bush sought and obtained Congressional approval before taking action in BOTH Afghanistan and Iraq.

First of all... Bush didn't get Congressional approval specifically for Afghanistan. It was very broadly "for use of force against terrorists." Afghanistan was a part of that.

Bush and other Republicans have linked Syria to terrorism for a decade:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00912.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So, doesn't seem like a huge leap to say Obama has authorization under the 2001 congressional authorization.




HAVING SAID THAT...

I don't support it, hope Obama stay out, and it will be another thing Obama has done that has pissed me off if he goes through with it.

[CID1990]

Bush sought and obtained Congressional approval before taking action in BOTH Afghanistan and Iraq.

First of all... Bush didn't get Congressional approval specifically for Afghanistan. It was very broadly "for use of force against terrorists." Afghanistan was a part of that.

Bush and other Republicans have linked Syria to terrorism for a decade:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00912.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So, doesn't seem like a huge leap to say Obama has authorization under the 2001 congressional authorization.




HAVING SAID THAT...

I don't support it, hope Obama stay out, and it will be another thing Obama has done that has pissed me off if he goes through with it.

Nice job, Twinkie.

[SDHornet]

But do you think we should attack? Or does BDK side with Hezbollah, Iran, and the Russkies on this one. Seriously and all politics aside...are you with us (and AQ) or against us?

If we do attack, what is the end game...or do we just lob a few cruise missiles and call it a day and feel all warm inside because we did something???

If we do anything, I sure as hell it ain't more than this.

JFC I can't believe our "leaders" are stupid enough to get us tangled up in another Islamist war. WAFJ.

[LeadBolt]

The problem with Syria, as it is in most of the Middle East, there is no way to win and no way to exit. As 9/11 proved they will come after us. We should stay away or level the whole Arab world. Anything in between is a big loser.

We should be exploiting our own energy resources, coming up with common sense alternatives and conservation and with the exception of Israel, stay out of the whole region. Much of the world does not have our resources or technology.

Europe is looking to us to get involved to keep the oil flowing to them. The French say they are ready to go militarily. I say let them and stay away. We did this in Lybia for the Europeans and that didn't work so well for us.

I would rather have Obama approve the XL pipeline and loosen the EPA restrictions to drilling and fracking and pull the navy back.

[Ibanez]

The problem with Syria, as it is in most of the Middle East, there is no way to win and no way to exit. As 9/11 proved they will come after us. We should stay away or level the whole Arab world. Anything in between is a big loser.

We should be exploiting our own energy resources, coming up with common sense alternatives and conservation and with the exception of Israel, stay out of the whole region. Much of the world does not have our resources or technology.

Europe is looking to us to get involved to keep the oil flowing to them. The French say they are ready to go militarily. I say let them and stay away. We did this in Lybia for the Europeans and that didn't work so well for us.

I would rather have Obama approve the XL pipeline and loosen the EPA restrictions to drilling and fracking and pull the navy back.

You mean, we should aid our enemy in their fight against our enemy?

[ASUMountaineer]

Remember how the lefties use to rant about Bush conducting an illegal war in Iraq? Bush sought and obtained Congressional approval before taking action in BOTH Afghanistan and Iraq.

Growing Bipartisan Coalition Urges Obama to Seek Congressional Authorization for Syrian Strike
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... an-strike/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But do you think we should attack? Or does BDK side with Hezbollah, Iran, and the Russkies on this one. Seriously and all politics aside...are you with us (and AQ) or against us?

ASUMountaineer sides with neither side. It's not our fight, and we have no business intervening.

[ASUMountaineer]

The problem with Syria, as it is in most of the Middle East, there is no way to win and no way to exit. As 9/11 proved they will come after us. We should stay away or level the whole Arab world. Anything in between is a big loser.

We should be exploiting our own energy resources, coming up with common sense alternatives and conservation and with the exception of Israel, stay out of the whole region. Much of the world does not have our resources or technology.

Europe is looking to us to get involved to keep the oil flowing to them. The French say they are ready to go militarily. I say let them and stay away. We did this in Lybia for the Europeans and that didn't work so well for us.

I would rather have Obama approve the XL pipeline and loosen the EPA restrictions to drilling and fracking and pull the navy back.

Exactly. We should use reason and act in self-preservation (similarly as the French did with Iraq). We have no business intervening in Syria.

It is maddening and sad listening to the politicians talk about using military action in Syria for "humanitarian reasons," but they don't utter a peep about Sudan.

[slycat]

[slycat]

Obamas Hope and Change

Hope we know which side used the chemical weapons

and

Change which countries we choose to go to war with.