Supreme Court and Affirmative Action

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Because I don't like lawsuits or unions and I want productivity. Simple really

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BULL SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

The fact that a hateful racist donk like you calls BS on that. Cements what I already know.....I am right.

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[ASUMountaineer]

No racism from me. You've just been conditioned by your culture to think that everything a white man says is racist. We will not have progress until certain white and black people stop seeing white and black and start seeing the person. We won't have progress until people take responsibility for their actions and their futures. Besides, having HBCUs isn't an accurate measure of education investment and I never said blacks don't graduate high school or attend college. I showed the rates of graduation. You lack reading comprehension.


Btw, the graduation rate of Asians signifies that they invest more time, money and energy into education than black people.

BTW, Asians do care more about education than most people in this country. NO excuse from me on this.
Why are you dodging my question. How many Black people work in your department???

He didn't dodge your question.

Reading is fundaMENTAL.

Out of 200 people, i'd say we have about 25 black people, a few Asians and Hispanics.

[mrklean]

BTW, Asians do care more about education than most people in this country. NO excuse from me on this.
Why are you dodging my question. How many Black people work in your department???

He didn't dodge your question.

Reading is fundaMENTAL.

Out of 200 people, i'd say we have about 25 black people, a few Asians and Hispanics.

So thats 10% give or take a few. Dayum, thats better than the Federal Government. Now just wonder what would it look like if there was no AA. Again as I have said before. I do not agree with AA. but its something we need.

[mrklean]

BULL ****!!!!!!!!!!!!

The fact that a hateful racist donk like you calls BS on that. Cements what I already know.....I am right.

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Bull shit excuse

[Ibanez]

No racism from me. You've just been conditioned by your culture to think that everything a white man says is racist. We will not have progress until certain white and black people stop seeing white and black and start seeing the person. We won't have progress until people take responsibility for their actions and their futures. Besides, having HBCUs isn't an accurate measure of education investment and I never said blacks don't graduate high school or attend college. I showed the rates of graduation. You lack reading comprehension.


Btw, the graduation rate of Asians signifies that they invest more time, money and energy into education than black people.

BTW, Asians do care more about education than most people in this country. NO excuse from me on this.
Why are you dodging my question. How many Black people work in your department???

Do you remember what I said about reading comprehension? I've already answered your question, jack ass.

[Ibanez]

He didn't dodge your question.

Reading is fundaMENTAL.

So thats 10% give or take a few. Dayum, thats better than the Federal Government. Now just wonder what would it look like if there was no AA. Again as I have said before. I do not agree with AA. but its something we need.

Btw, 200 people is just my location. The company I work for has close to 25,000 people.

[Ibanez]

This is based off of my experience and relationships. You've never said it on here but you have a pattern for racism. See my signature.

That is true. And the only pattern of Racism is from you. I just tell the truth as I see it. And I dare you to find fault in anything I have posted.

Secondly, name me any other minority group that has invested more in education that African Americans. We have over 100 HBCU's across this country plus the PWI colleges. So from your statement, black people dont graduate High School nor do we attend College..............

http://www.jbhe.com/2012/01/tracking-gr ... -at-hbcus/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The highest Black student graduation rate at the HBCUs is at Spelman College in Atlanta. There, 79 percent of entering students graduate from Spelman within six years. This rate is higher than the Black student graduation rate at many of the nation’s highest-ranked colleges and universities.

At nearly half the HBCUs in our survey, the Black student graduation rate is 33 percent or lower. At these institutions, less than one third of all entering African American students earned a bachelor’s degree within six years. There are six HBCUs in our survey where less than one in five entering Black students earn a bachelor’s degree within six years.

The lowest Black student graduation rate is at the University of the District of Columbia. There, only 10 percent of entering students earn their degree at UDC within six years. At Texas Southern University in Houston, the Black student graduation rate is 11 percent.

[AZGrizFan]

He didn't dodge your question.

Reading is fundaMENTAL.

So thats 10% give or take a few. Dayum, thats better than the Federal Government. Now just wonder what would it look like if there was no AA. Again as I have said before. I do not agree with AA. but its something we need.

Another fail by the resident racist. Between 1990 and 2008 the federal government's AA employment rate has increased from 16.7 to 17.5% of the total government employee base, as compared to a U.S. population ratio of about 13% (14% if you include those self-identifying as mixed-race).

Try again.

[Ibanez]

So thats 10% give or take a few. Dayum, thats better than the Federal Government. Now just wonder what would it look like if there was no AA. Again as I have said before. I do not agree with AA. but its something we need.

Another fail by the resident racist. Between 1990 and 2008 the federal government's AA employment rate has increased from 16.7 to 17.5% of the total government employee base, as compared to a U.S. population ratio of about 13% (14% if you include those self-identifying as mixed-race).

Try again.

Not to defend dal...I mean mrklean, but the 200 employees here is less than 1% of the entire company.

[mrklean]

So thats 10% give or take a few. Dayum, thats better than the Federal Government. Now just wonder what would it look like if there was no AA. Again as I have said before. I do not agree with AA. but its something we need.

Another fail by the resident racist. Between 1990 and 2008 the federal government's AA employment rate has increased from 16.7 to 17.5% of the total government employee base, as compared to a U.S. population ratio of about 13% (14% if you include those self-identifying as mixed-race).


Try again.

17%, now I know that BULLSHIT!!

[Ibanez]

Another fail by the resident racist. Between 1990 and 2008 the federal government's AA employment rate has increased from 16.7 to 17.5% of the total government employee base, as compared to a U.S. population ratio of about 13% (14% if you include those self-identifying as mixed-race).


Try again.

17%, now I know that BULLSHIT!!

You're right. 17% is wrong.


In 2011, that number was 18%.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fed ... _blog.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[93henfan]

17%, now I know that BULLSHIT!!

You're right. 17% is wrong.


In 2011, that number was 18%.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fed ... _blog.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yep, the Federal Government is disproportionately negro. I wouldn't mind it if they didn't smell funny.

[ASUMountaineer]

17%, now I know that BULLSHIT!!

You're right. 17% is wrong.


In 2011, that number was 18%.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fed ... _blog.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

The fact that a hateful racist donk like you calls BS on that. Cements what I already know.....I am right.

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Bull shit excuse

BS response

[CID1990]

That's what you are saying. You keep harping on the "best person" line but you don't even realize that AA if about minority quotas. It has nothing do with the best candidate for a job.

FVCK a Quota !!!!!!, Thats what I have been preaching from day one. Hire the Best person for the job. But does that Happen....HELL NO!!!!! Public Safty Job are the worst when it comes this. This is why you have that stupid Quota. This would not be needed if they hired the Best Person.

You think you didn't get that cop job because you're black, when in reality the white guy they hired over you is capable of writing above an 8th grade level.


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[JohnStOnge]

I'm going to post one example I've been able to find bearing upon the question of whether or not the most qualified person is being hired or admitted. It's from http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal ... /case.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. Do a search on "Raudenbush."

You will find this paragraph:

Dr. Stephen Raudenbush, the Law School's expert, focused on the predicted effect of eliminating race as a factor in the Law School's admission process. In Dr. Raudenbush's view, a race-blind admissions system would have a "'very dramatic,'" negative effect on underrepresented minority admissions. App. to Pet. for Cert. 223a. He testified that in 2000, 35 percent of underrepresented minority applicants were admitted. Ibid. Dr. Raudenbush predicted that if race were not considered, only 10 percent of those applicants would have been admitted. Ibid. Under this scenario, underrepresented minority students would have constituted 4 percent of the entering class in 2000 instead of the actual figure of 14.5 percent. Ibid.

That pretty much tells you which way the practice of selecting those less qualified has been going. I have no doubt that one could probably find some individual circumstances in which a more qualified Black was denied a job granted to a less qualified White. But the overwhelming majority of circumstances involve a less qualified Black getting preference. There is absolutely no reasonable doubt about that. Above you see, for example if you do the math, that only 29 percent of the "underrepresented minority" applicants accepted would have been accepted if they had not been given preference due to their race.

And I think all of us who have been out there in the world know that the same kind of thing happens throughout. People have to be concerned about making sure they have sufficient "diversity" in their workforces. If they just pick the best person for the job and they all turn out to be White, they're screwed. And i they all turn out to be White Males...THE HORROR.