Best conference?

[Gil Dobie]

Let's get back to recent history as the article is talking about this season. Last year the Southern Conference was probably the 2nd best conference, but with GSU and App St not playoff bound, they drop. The best team that I saw NDSU play last season was GSU, followed by Wofford. Sam was either a shadow of it's former self or NDSU just got better. The Big Sky was EWU, and annual playoff disappointment Montana St, a good Cal-Poly, NAU, Montana in a state of flux, and then the rest. Illinois St gave the best Big Sky team a good game in the playoffs. SDSU lost to the eventual NC. Going into this season, MVFC followed by the BSC looks like a fair ranking. The season results may say different, but that's why they play the games.

You're forgetting about the team that beat Colorado....

Nice win, Colorado could only beat Washington St last year, but the loss to UND dropped the SAC.

[GoTigers]

My ass. The Ivy League is the best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be.

74 National Championships.

The most out of any conference in intercollegiate athletics.

Not only does the Ivy League have the hardware, the players actually have brains and aren't from some thug city.

Well.....when did a Ivy win their last NC in football......in the 20s or teens?

1950 was when the Tigers won their last title. And it counts as an FBS title. Far more superior than anything the current teams the Football Championship Subdivision has won or will ever win. 28 National Championships, read it and weep. A number that will never be touched.

One day we will rise again and take home the national championship. By this I mean, the Ivy coming to their senses and going to the Bowl Subdivision. Not mingling with the likes of some inferior institution, with an inferior athletic department and with laughable academics from North Dakota or Texas. It is also a damn shame that no institution with respectable academics has won a DI-Bowl Subdivision title since 1997(!) with the University of Michigan.

And for those laughing at the prestigious Ivy League's athletics, I would not if I were you, since Yale won the NCAA Division I Hockey title this year. Defeating the likes of Minnesota and North Dakota, traditional hockey powerhouses. Also Cornell making the NCAA Lacrosse Final 4, with their star Pennell most likely winning the player of the year award this week.

And I am no troll. I am a Princeton alum. Class of 2005, for your information. 4.0 GPA, former captain of the lacrosse team and an avid Princeton Tigers football fanatic.

[uofmman1122]

Well.....when did a Ivy win their last NC in football......in the 20s or teens?

1950 was when the Tigers won their last title. And it counts as an FBS title. Far more superior than anything the current teams the Football Championship Subdivision has won or will ever win. 28 National Championships, read it and weep. A number that will never be touched.

One day we will rise again and take home the national championship. By this I mean, the Ivy coming to their senses and going to the Bowl Subdivision. Not mingling with the likes of some inferior institution, with an inferior athletic department and with laughable academics from North Dakota or Texas. It is also a damn shame that no institution with respectable academics has won a DI-Bowl Subdivision title since 1997(!) with the University of Michigan.

And for those laughing at the prestigious Ivy League's athletics, I would not if I were you, since Yale won the NCAA Division I Hockey title this year. Defeating the likes of Minnesota and North Dakota, traditional hockey powerhouses. Also Cornell making the NCAA Lacrosse Final 4, with their star Pennell most likely winning the player of the year award this week.

And I am no troll. I am a Princeton alum. Class of 2005, for your information. 4.0 GPA, former captain of the lacrosse team and an avid Princeton Tigers football fanatic.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHwegwXwwHs[/youtube]

For a "smart guy", you're pretty oblivious to the reality that not only can the Ivy's not compete at all with about 95% of FBS football teams, let alone 100% of the teams with an actual shot at the BCS Title, you couldn't even hang with the top of FCS.

Congrats on all that other stuff not related to football, but since we're talking about FCS conferences right now, the Ivy League is really at best a 2nd-tier FCS conference.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Well.....when did a Ivy win their last NC in football......in the 20s or teens?

1950 was when the Tigers won their last title. And it counts as an FBS title. Far more superior than anything the current teams the Football Championship Subdivision has won or will ever win. 28 National Championships, read it and weep. A number that will never be touched.

One day we will rise again and take home the national championship. By this I mean, the Ivy coming to their senses and going to the Bowl Subdivision. Not mingling with the likes of some inferior institution, with an inferior athletic department and with laughable academics from North Dakota or Texas. It is also a damn shame that no institution with respectable academics has won a DI-Bowl Subdivision title since 1997(!) with the University of Michigan.

And for those laughing at the prestigious Ivy League's athletics, I would not if I were you, since Yale won the NCAA Division I Hockey title this year. Defeating the likes of Minnesota and North Dakota, traditional hockey powerhouses. Also Cornell making the NCAA Lacrosse Final 4, with their star Pennell most likely winning the player of the year award this week.

And I am no troll. I am a Princeton alum. Class of 2005, for your information. 4.0 GPA, former captain of the lacrosse team and an avid Princeton Tigers football fanatic.

LOL....a person doesn't have to be a snobby Ivy Leaguer to be successful.....

The Ivy's will never be successful at today's FBS level...never.

[GoTigers]

1950 was when the Tigers won their last title. And it counts as an FBS title. Far more superior than anything the current teams the Football Championship Subdivision has won or will ever win. 28 National Championships, read it and weep. A number that will never be touched.

One day we will rise again and take home the national championship. By this I mean, the Ivy coming to their senses and going to the Bowl Subdivision. Not mingling with the likes of some inferior institution, with an inferior athletic department and with laughable academics from North Dakota or Texas. It is also a damn shame that no institution with respectable academics has won a DI-Bowl Subdivision title since 1997(!) with the University of Michigan.

And for those laughing at the prestigious Ivy League's athletics, I would not if I were you, since Yale won the NCAA Division I Hockey title this year. Defeating the likes of Minnesota and North Dakota, traditional hockey powerhouses. Also Cornell making the NCAA Lacrosse Final 4, with their star Pennell most likely winning the player of the year award this week.

And I am no troll. I am a Princeton alum. Class of 2005, for your information. 4.0 GPA, former captain of the lacrosse team and an avid Princeton Tigers football fanatic.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHwegwXwwHs[/youtube]

For a "smart guy", you're pretty oblivious to the reality that not only can the Ivy's not compete at all with about 95% of FBS football teams, let alone 100% of the teams with an actual shot at the BCS Title, you couldn't even hang with the top of FCS.

Congrats on all that other stuff not related to football, but since we're talking about FCS conferences right now, the Ivy League is really at best a 2nd-tier FCS conference.

You are nothing but a jealous hater. No school will ever accomplish what Princeton has on the gridiron. 28 titles.

You say they (the Ivy League) cannot "hang" with the top of the FCS, but frankly, you have no proof of that. The rest of the FCS is simply too inferior and fearful of losing badly to the Ivy League teams.

So the Ivy League cannot show it is for real, because other teams aren't willing to play them.

I can guarantee you if the Ivy League schools had the opportunity to play in the FCS Playoffs, they would defeat everyone and it would most likely be a 2012 BCS Championship Game scenario where two members of the same conference would face off for the title.


One day, whether it be 10 years or 100 years from now, the Ivy League will rise again. The Princeton Tigers will be kings of college football once again. #29

[Grizalltheway]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHwegwXwwHs[/youtube]

For a "smart guy", you're pretty oblivious to the reality that not only can the Ivy's not compete at all with about 95% of FBS football teams, let alone 100% of the teams with an actual shot at the BCS Title, you couldn't even hang with the top of FCS.

Congrats on all that other stuff not related to football, but since we're talking about FCS conferences right now, the Ivy League is really at best a 2nd-tier FCS conference.

You are nothing but a jealous hater. No school will ever accomplish what Princeton has on the gridiron. 28 titles.

You say they (the Ivy League) cannot "hang" with the top of the FCS, but frankly, you have no proof of that. The rest of the FCS is simply too inferior and fearful of losing badly to the Ivy League teams.

So the Ivy League cannot show it is for real, because other teams aren't willing to play them.

I can guarantee you if the Ivy League schools had the opportunity to play in the FCS Playoffs, they would defeat everyone and it would most likely be a 2012 BCS Championship Game scenario where two members of the same conference would face off for the title.


One day, whether it be 10 years or 100 years from now, the Ivy League will rise again. The Princeton Tigers will be kings of college football once again. #29

No way, man. It would totally be the Ivy champ vs the SWAC champ, if only they got to participate in the playoffs.

[uofmman1122]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHwegwXwwHs[/youtube]

For a "smart guy", you're pretty oblivious to the reality that not only can the Ivy's not compete at all with about 95% of FBS football teams, let alone 100% of the teams with an actual shot at the BCS Title, you couldn't even hang with the top of FCS.

Congrats on all that other stuff not related to football, but since we're talking about FCS conferences right now, the Ivy League is really at best a 2nd-tier FCS conference.

You are nothing but a jealous hater. No school will ever accomplish what Princeton has on the gridiron. 28 titles.

You say they (the Ivy League) cannot "hang" with the top of the FCS, but frankly, you have no proof of that. The rest of the FCS is simply too inferior and fearful of losing badly to the Ivy League teams.

So the Ivy League cannot show it is for real, because other teams aren't willing to play them.

I can guarantee you if the Ivy League schools had the opportunity to play in the FCS Playoffs, they would defeat everyone and it would most likely be a 2012 BCS Championship Game scenario where two members of the same conference would face off for the title.


One day, whether it be 10 years or 100 years from now, the Ivy League will rise again. The Princeton Tigers will be kings of college football once again. #29

I love this guy.

"We can't prove we're better because we refuse to do so, but if we did, which again, we adamantly refuse to do on our own volition, we'd be so much better than you guys!"

Princeton will never win a D-1 National Championship ever again.

Ever.

[YoUDeeMan]

You say they (the Ivy League) cannot "hang" with the top of the FCS, but frankly, you have no proof of that. The rest of the FCS is simply too inferior and fearful of losing badly to the Ivy League teams.

So the Ivy League cannot show it is for real, because other teams aren't willing to play them.

I can guarantee you if the Ivy League schools had the opportunity to play in the FCS Playoffs, they would defeat everyone and it would most likely be a 2012 BCS Championship Game scenario where two members of the same conference would face off for the title.

Let's see how the Ivy champs/co-champs did against FCS teams:

2012-2013 -
Penn 21-28 Lafayette
Penn 8-24 Villanova
Penn 28-34 W&M

2011-2012:
Harvard 22-30 Holy Cross

2010-2011;
Penn 17-14 Lafayette
Penn 10-22 Villanova

2009-2010
Penn 17-20 Lafayette
Penn 3-14 Villanova
Harvard 20-27 Holy Cross
Harvard 18-35 Lafayette

The Ivy champs were 1-9 versus FCS teams...and only a couple of those FCS teams were good enough to make the playoffs.

Even an Ivy troll is smart enough to not argue against those numbers.

[kalm]

You say they (the Ivy League) cannot "hang" with the top of the FCS, but frankly, you have no proof of that. The rest of the FCS is simply too inferior and fearful of losing badly to the Ivy League teams.

So the Ivy League cannot show it is for real, because other teams aren't willing to play them.

I can guarantee you if the Ivy League schools had the opportunity to play in the FCS Playoffs, they would defeat everyone and it would most likely be a 2012 BCS Championship Game scenario where two members of the same conference would face off for the title.

Let's see how the Ivy champs/co-champs did against FCS teams:

2012-2013 -
Penn 21-28 Lafayette
Penn 8-24 Villanova
Penn 28-34 W&M

2011-2012:
Harvard 22-30 Holy Cross

2010-2011;
Penn 17-14 Lafayette
Penn 10-22 Villanova

2009-2010
Penn 17-20 Lafayette
Penn 3-14 Villanova
Harvard 20-27 Holy Cross
Harvard 18-35 Lafayette

The Ivy champs were 1-9 versus FCS teams...and only a couple of those FCS teams were good enough to make the playoffs.

Even an Ivy troll is smart enough to not argue against those numbers.

Ivy is the most highly overrated intellectual conference. MBA's caused the Great Recession, George Bush, Obama, Larry Sumners...I've been trying to tell you guys this for years.

[GoTigers]

You say they (the Ivy League) cannot "hang" with the top of the FCS, but frankly, you have no proof of that. The rest of the FCS is simply too inferior and fearful of losing badly to the Ivy League teams.

So the Ivy League cannot show it is for real, because other teams aren't willing to play them.

I can guarantee you if the Ivy League schools had the opportunity to play in the FCS Playoffs, they would defeat everyone and it would most likely be a 2012 BCS Championship Game scenario where two members of the same conference would face off for the title.

Let's see how the Ivy champs/co-champs did against FCS teams:

2012-2013 -
Penn 21-28 Lafayette
Penn 8-24 Villanova
Penn 28-34 W&M

2011-2012:
Harvard 22-30 Holy Cross

2010-2011;
Penn 17-14 Lafayette
Penn 10-22 Villanova

2009-2010
Penn 17-20 Lafayette
Penn 3-14 Villanova
Harvard 20-27 Holy Cross
Harvard 18-35 Lafayette

The Ivy champs were 1-9 versus FCS teams...and only a couple of those FCS teams were good enough to make the playoffs.

Even an Ivy troll is smart enough to not argue against those numbers.

Because those are regular season games. Ivy League football does not value anything outside of the league unless it is big time college football. You don't see Princeton on there. Because everyone fears the Tigers and refuses to play them. Princeton tried to get Alabama to come here for a late November game in 2011, but they chickened out an opted to schedule something called a Georgia Southern. These neanderthals of the FCS can't even get a name that sounds normal. I think Southern Georgia would sound much better. And THEY are the ones moving up to FBS?! That is outrageous. The Ivy League needs to replace a league in FBS. Someone, anyone. How about the Sun Belt? Terrible academic institutions compared to the Ivys and ZERO DI-FBS National Championships!


28 National Championships here. Anyone who denies Princeton as the greatest program in football history is delusional. No school has more. No school will ever have more. And if the Crimson Tide of Alabummer have any qualm with that, they shouldn't have chickened out of their scheduled trip to Princeton University Stadium.

Oh and by the way, the 1995 team here had they been allowed to compete, would have rampaged through the playoff.

[GoTigers]

I understand all the animosity. It's fine. Everyone hates the best teams because they win.

The Princeton Tigers may be the best athletic team to ever exist. Just because we're so damn good does not give anyone a reason to call me a troll. I am a sincere poster on here. This place needs more Ivy representation.

Now you have a grad and fan of the best program in college football history on board.

[AZGrizFan]

I understand all the animosity. It's fine. Everyone hates the best teams because they win.

The Princeton Tigers may be the best athletic team to ever exist. Just because we're so damn good does not give anyone a reason to call me a troll. I am a sincere poster on here. This place needs more Ivy representation.

Now you have a grad and fan of the best program in college football history on board.

The comedic relief has arrived.

[SuperHornet]

Nice win, Colorado could only beat Washington St last year, but the loss to UND dropped the SAC.

Just one problem with that statement, though it may not necessarily apply to you in particular.

Many around here hold the crazy idea that ANY FBS game is an auto-loss for ANY FCS team, then when it happens, they backtrack, saying that the FBS team involved sucks.

You can't have your cake and eat it, too....

[andy7171]

Princeton football stole Michagans helmet, like Delaware, and then made it worse by using bad colors.

[Gil Dobie]

Princeton football stole Michagans helmet, like Delaware, and then made it worse by using bad colors.

[Gil Dobie]

Nice win, Colorado could only beat Washington St last year, but the loss to UND dropped the SAC.

Just one problem with that statement, though it may not necessarily apply to you in particular.

Many around here hold the crazy idea that ANY FBS game is an auto-loss for ANY FCS team, then when it happens, they backtrack, saying that the FBS team involved sucks.

You can't have your cake and eat it, too....

Youngstown beat Pitt and NDSU the last couple years, but they have not made the play-offs out of the MVFC for a while. I did not mention them in my original post either. Youngstown and SAC are both good teams that have not broken out of the pack and made the playoffs.

[Ibanez]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHwegwXwwHs[/youtube]

For a "smart guy", you're pretty oblivious to the reality that not only can the Ivy's not compete at all with about 95% of FBS football teams, let alone 100% of the teams with an actual shot at the BCS Title, you couldn't even hang with the top of FCS.

Congrats on all that other stuff not related to football, but since we're talking about FCS conferences right now, the Ivy League is really at best a 2nd-tier FCS conference.

You are nothing but a jealous hater. No school will ever accomplish what Princeton has on the gridiron. 28 titles.

You say they (the Ivy League) cannot "hang" with the top of the FCS, but frankly, you have no proof of that. The rest of the FCS is simply too inferior and fearful of losing badly to the Ivy League teams.

So the Ivy League cannot show it is for real, because other teams aren't willing to play them.

I can guarantee you if the Ivy League schools had the opportunity to play in the FCS Playoffs, they would defeat everyone and it would most likely be a 2012 BCS Championship Game scenario where two members of the same conference would face off for the title.


One day, whether it be 10 years or 100 years from now, the Ivy League will rise again. The Princeton Tigers will be kings of college football once again. #29

You are precious.

[Ibanez]

I understand all the animosity. It's fine. Everyone hates the best teams because they win.

The Princeton Tigers may be the best athletic team to ever exist. Just because we're so damn good does not give anyone a reason to call me a troll. I am a sincere poster on here. This place needs more Ivy representation.

Now you have a grad and fan of the best program in college football history on board.

What are they teaching you at Princeton? In normal cases, a football team has to compete and win to be the best. The Tigers do not compete. You're the craziest homer. 22 of your 28 titles are from the years between 1869 and 1909. Your last National Championship was 63 years ago.

Yup, the Princeton Tigers are the pinnacle of FCS Football.

[Grizalltheway]

I understand all the animosity. It's fine. Everyone hates the best teams because they win.

The Princeton Tigers may be the best athletic team to ever exist. Just because we're so damn good does not give anyone a reason to call me a troll. I am a sincere poster on here. This place needs more Ivy representation.

Now you have a grad and fan of the best program in college football history on board.

What are they teaching you at Princeton? In normal cases, a football team has to compete and win to be the best. The Tigers do not compete. You're the craziest homer. 22 of your 28 titles are from the years between 1869 and 1909. Your last National Championship was 63 years ago.

Yup, the Princeton Tigers are the pinnacle of FCS Football.

He/she is a slightly more educated version of Lakes.

[danefan]

Because those are regular season games. Ivy League football does not value anything outside of the league unless it is big time college football. You don't see Princeton on there. Because everyone fears the Tigers and refuses to play them. Princeton tried to get Alabama to come here for a late November game in 2011, but they chickened out an opted to schedule something called a Georgia Southern. These neanderthals of the FCS can't even get a name that sounds normal. I think Southern Georgia would sound much better. And THEY are the ones moving up to FBS?! That is outrageous. The Ivy League needs to replace a league in FBS. Someone, anyone. How about the Sun Belt? Terrible academic institutions compared to the Ivys and ZERO DI-FBS National Championships!


28 National Championships here. Anyone who denies Princeton as the greatest program in football history is delusional. No school has more. No school will ever have more. And if the Crimson Tide of Alabummer have any qualm with that, they shouldn't have chickened out of their scheduled trip to Princeton University Stadium.

Oh and by the way, the 1995 team here had they been allowed to compete, would have rampaged through the playoff.

Is that what you guys tell recruits to try to sway them to Princeton over the other NESCAC schools? Hey - we have an empty stadium that Alabama didn't want to play in. Take that Lord Jeffs!

[Ibanez]

Because those are regular season games. Ivy League football does not value anything outside of the league unless it is big time college football. You don't see Princeton on there. Because everyone fears the Tigers and refuses to play them. Princeton tried to get Alabama to come here for a late November game in 2011, but they chickened out an opted to schedule something called a Georgia Southern. These neanderthals of the FCS can't even get a name that sounds normal. I think Southern Georgia would sound much better. And THEY are the ones moving up to FBS?! That is outrageous. The Ivy League needs to replace a league in FBS. Someone, anyone. How about the Sun Belt? Terrible academic institutions compared to the Ivys and ZERO DI-FBS National Championships!


28 National Championships here. Anyone who denies Princeton as the greatest program in football history is delusional. No school has more. No school will ever have more. And if the Crimson Tide of Alabummer have any qualm with that, they shouldn't have chickened out of their scheduled trip to Princeton University Stadium.

Oh and by the way, the 1995 team here had they been allowed to compete, would have rampaged through the playoff.

Is that what you guys tell recruits to try to sway them to Princeton over the other NESCAC schools? Hey - we have an empty stadium that Alabama didn't want to play in. Take that Lord Jeffs!

There were like 10 teams for the longest time and even a few years where 2 or more schools were awarded the NC. Still, the last time Princeton won a NC was 1950.

[Gil Dobie]

28 National Championships here.

28 and done

[GoTigers]

I understand all the animosity. It's fine. Everyone hates the best teams because they win.

The Princeton Tigers may be the best athletic team to ever exist. Just because we're so damn good does not give anyone a reason to call me a troll. I am a sincere poster on here. This place needs more Ivy representation.

Now you have a grad and fan of the best program in college football history on board.

What are they teaching you at Princeton? In normal cases, a football team has to compete and win to be the best. The Tigers do not compete. You're the craziest homer. 22 of your 28 titles are from the years between 1869 and 1909. Your last National Championship was 63 years ago.

Yup, the Princeton Tigers are the pinnacle of FCS Football.

They aren't just the best team in the FCS division but in all divisions. Titles are titles. #1 above all. I could care less about worthless FCS titles really, all of Princeton's are FBS and their next one will be too.

Princeton would have beaten Alabama if they played. I know it in my heart and Alabama would simply be intimidated by the fact Princeton is so superior to them in all facets. Athletics and ESPECIALLY academics.

My score prediction for the game if they didn't duck us in 2011, would be 41-39 on a last second FG. Their defense was vastly overrated and would not have been able to stop the Black Stripes.

[GoTigers]

28 National Championships here.

28 and done

Back to back national titles? That's cute. We were the first to ever win back to back titles. But you probably see that by my signature.

[Gil Dobie]

28 and done

Back to back national titles? That's cute. We were the first to ever win back to back titles. But you probably see that by my signature.

Princeton has a great history of football, with 16 of the titles prior to NDSU having football. So you lead with 12 titles to 10 titles during the same timeframe. Hopefully NDSU will catchup and pass that total before Princeton, being stuck in the non-playoff conference, will not be able to add to their total.