Because...dbackjon wrote:Why does it have to be an either or?CID1990 wrote:
What do you think would have a bigger effect on violent crime today?
Ending the war on drugs, or an assault weapons ban?
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Boston Brothers and Gun Permits
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“Tolerance and Apathy are the last virtues of a dying society.” Aristotle
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Aren't fully automatic weapons already illegal?Skjellyfetti wrote:So, the criminals stopped using fully automatic weapons like the "tommy gun" in large numbers in the '30's because of price? And the National Firearms Act had no effect?
Also, do y'all think that fully automatic weapons should be regulated at all?
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Yes, unless you apply for and are approved by BATF for a tax stamp to purchase an NFA-restricted weapon.Ibanez wrote:Aren't fully automatic weapons already illegal?Skjellyfetti wrote:So, the criminals stopped using fully automatic weapons like the "tommy gun" in large numbers in the '30's because of price? And the National Firearms Act had no effect?
Also, do y'all think that fully automatic weapons should be regulated at all?
Fun fact: the price of an NFA stamp hasn't changed since 1934. It's been $200 the whole time. $200 was a deterrent in 1934. Now, the deterrence is the onerous, arbitrary application/approval process and several months (in most cases now almost a year) waiting one must endure to get the stamp. CLEOs in many areas will not even sign off on individual applications, particularly in blue states. This has led to a recent surge in the establishment of NFA gun trusts by individuals to streamline the process and protect their NFA assets from seizure and their relatives from being unintended felons when they die, due to having NFA restricted items in their home without an individual stamp with their name on it. Getting everyone in a trust solves all that.
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What a great idea.93henfan wrote:Yes, unless you apply for and are approved by BATF for a tax stamp to purchase an NFA-restricted weapon.Ibanez wrote: Aren't fully automatic weapons already illegal?
Fun fact: the price of an NFA stamp hasn't changed since 1934. It's been $200 the whole time. $200 was a deterrent in 1934. Now, the deterrence is the onerous, arbitrary application/approval process and several months (in most cases now almost a year) waiting one must endure to get the stamp. CLEOs in many areas will not even sign off on individual applications, particularly in blue states. This has led to a recent surge in the establishment of NFA gun trusts by individuals to streamline the process and protect their NFA assets from seizure and their relatives from being unintended felons when they die, due to having NFA restricted items in their home without an individual stamp with their name on it. Getting everyone in a trust solves all that.
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These guys are popular with some folks I've talked to:AZGrizFan wrote:What a great idea.93henfan wrote:
Yes, unless you apply for and are approved by BATF for a tax stamp to purchase an NFA-restricted weapon.
Fun fact: the price of an NFA stamp hasn't changed since 1934. It's been $200 the whole time. $200 was a deterrent in 1934. Now, the deterrence is the onerous, arbitrary application/approval process and several months (in most cases now almost a year) waiting one must endure to get the stamp. CLEOs in many areas will not even sign off on individual applications, particularly in blue states. This has led to a recent surge in the establishment of NFA gun trusts by individuals to streamline the process and protect their NFA assets from seizure and their relatives from being unintended felons when they die, due to having NFA restricted items in their home without an individual stamp with their name on it. Getting everyone in a trust solves all that.![]()
http://arsenalattorneys.com/arsenal-gun-trust-services
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To be honest, it's the ridiculous wait that's stopped me from ever even applying for the stamp... WAFJ that process is.93henfan wrote:These guys are popular with some folks I've talked to:AZGrizFan wrote:
What a great idea.![]()
http://arsenalattorneys.com/arsenal-gun-trust-services
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I want a stamp for a silencer for my Ruger 10/22. I haven't applied yet. I'll probably get the trust set up first so I can realize one benefit of the trust immediately, namely avoiding the CLEO signature, fingerprinting, and mugshots. I mean, I was in the military. The US Government already has my fingerprints, mugshot, and even my DNA on file. I have a security clearance and I've held concealed permits in multiple states. Is there really any benefit to making me duplicate so many safeguards?AZGrizFan wrote:To be honest, it's the ridiculous wait that's stopped me from ever even applying for the stamp... WAFJ that process is.93henfan wrote:
These guys are popular with some folks I've talked to:
http://arsenalattorneys.com/arsenal-gun-trust-services
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Same here. It ought to be as easy as a signature after the crap we've been through.93henfan wrote:I want a stamp for a silencer for my Ruger 10/22. I haven't applied yet. I'll probably get the trust set up first so I can realize one benefit of the trust immediately, namely avoiding the CLEO signature, fingerprinting, and mugshots. I mean, I was in the military. The US Government already has my fingerprints, mugshot, and even my DNA on file. I have a security clearance and I've held concealed permits in multiple states. Is there really any benefit to making me duplicate so many safeguards?AZGrizFan wrote:
To be honest, it's the ridiculous wait that's stopped me from ever even applying for the stamp... WAFJ that process is.
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93henfan wrote:I want a stamp for a silencer for my Ruger 10/22. I haven't applied yet. I'll probably get the trust set up first so I can realize one benefit of the trust immediately, namely avoiding the CLEO signature, fingerprinting, and mugshots. I mean, I was in the military. The US Government already has my fingerprints, mugshot, and even my DNA on file. I have a security clearance and I've held concealed permits in multiple states. Is there really any benefit to making me duplicate so many safeguards?AZGrizFan wrote:
To be honest, it's the ridiculous wait that's stopped me from ever even applying for the stamp... WAFJ that process is.
SUPPRESSOR, not silencer.
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A 22lr is already quiet. I want it silent.grizzaholic wrote:93henfan wrote:
I want a stamp for a silencer for my Ruger 10/22. I haven't applied yet. I'll probably get the trust set up first so I can realize one benefit of the trust immediately, namely avoiding the CLEO signature, fingerprinting, and mugshots. I mean, I was in the military. The US Government already has my fingerprints, mugshot, and even my DNA on file. I have a security clearance and I've held concealed permits in multiple states. Is there really any benefit to making me duplicate so many safeguards?
SUPPRESSOR, not silencer.
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Winchester makes a subsonic round.93henfan wrote:A 22lr is already quiet. I want it silent.grizzaholic wrote:
SUPPRESSOR, not silencer.
Oh, and if you are going to get a suppressor...Yankee Hill makes a fine one and get it for your AR, and then you can use it on your 22 as well.
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