Phillies 2013 "Road to Redemption" Thread

[BlueHen86]

Have the fightin' fils won a game yet?

Yes. They won 2-0 in Atlanta last night.

[Seahawks08]

I know. He tends to dig himself into a hole and then try and get out of it by digging some more.

No I just deal with morons who don't know how to read. Case in point, where did I say we only buy a team to compete? There needs to be a combination of home grown players and big time FAs. A $150M+ payroll also lets the phils keep their homegrown talent. Of course teams will not always win with high payrolls, like the mets, yankees, and red sox. But the money allows them to make fewer mistakes than teams like Tampa and Miami. You also have to spend wisely such as not sign Lackey or Arod to ridiculous contracts. Of course the phils are guilty of that too (Howard). But I think with contracts such as Utley, Chooch, Halladay, and M. Young coming off the books at the end of this year will create a lot of flexibility in setting the stage for the next young group to come in.

[DSUrocks07]

I know. He tends to dig himself into a hole and then try and get out of it by digging some more.

No I just deal with morons who don't know how to read. Case in point, where did I say we only buy a team to compete? There needs to be a combination of home grown players and big time FAs. A $150M+ payroll also lets the phils keep their homegrown talent. Of course teams will not always win with high payrolls, like the mets, yankees, and red sox. But the money allows them to make fewer mistakes than teams like Tampa and Miami. You also have to spend wisely such as not sign Lackey or Arod to ridiculous contracts. Of course the phils are guilty of that too (Howard). But I think with contracts such as Utley, Howard, Chooch, and M. Young coming off the books at the end of this year will create a lot of flexibility in setting the stage for the next young group to come in.

I highly doubt that $150 mil payrolls will be the new norm for the Phillies.

[BlueHen86]

I know. He tends to dig himself into a hole and then try and get out of it by digging some more.

No I just deal with morons who don't know how to read. Case in point, where did I say we only buy a team to compete? There needs to be a combination of home grown players and big time FAs. A $150M+ payroll also lets the phils keep their homegrown talent. Of course teams will not always win with high payrolls, like the mets, yankees, and red sox. But the money allows them to make fewer mistakes than teams like Tampa and Miami. You also have to spend wisely such as not sign Lackey or Arod to ridiculous contracts. Of course the phils are guilty of that too (Howard). But I think with contracts such as Utley, Howard, Chooch, and M. Young coming off the books at the end of this year will create a lot of flexibility in setting the stage for the next young group to come in.

Did you mean to say more mistakes? Because that I agree with. A higher payroll doesn't guarantee anything, but it does make it easier to correct mistakes.

[AZGrizFan]

Phils looked good last night.

Against the Royals.

:lol

[BlueHen86]

Phils looked good last night.

Against the Royals.

:lol

It was a day game, if the Phils looked good last night it was because the beat-down was over by then.

[Ivytalk]

Better rename this the "Road to Perdition" thread.

[AZGrizFan]

Phils looked good last night.

Against the Royals.

:lol

It was a day game, if the Phils looked good last night it was because the beat-down was over by then.

So now you're reduced to nitpicking technicalities?

[93henfan]

Phils looked good last night.

Against the Royals.

:lol

Jesus Christ you're slow. That was page 3.

[AZGrizFan]

Phils looked good last night.

Against the Royals.

:lol

Jesus Christ you're slow. That was page 3.

Just want you to relive it. Over. And Over. And Over.

BTW, the Diamondbacks won last night...again....and are 3-1 on this young season.

[93henfan]

Jesus Christ you're slow. That was page 3.

Just want you to relive it. Over. And Over. And Over.

BTW, the Diamondbacks won last night...again....and are 3-1 on this young season.

Yes, they're so popular they have their own thread. Oh wait. No they don't.

Hint.

[AZGrizFan]

Just want you to relive it. Over. And Over. And Over.

BTW, the Diamondbacks won last night...again....and are 3-1 on this young season.

Yes, they're so popular they have their own thread. Oh wait. No they don't.

Hint.

actually, yes they do. But what good would it do to rub the Phillies failures in in THAT thread?

[93henfan]

Yes, they're so popular they have their own thread. Oh wait. No they don't.

Hint.

actually, yes they do. But what good would it do to rub the Phillies failures in in THAT thread?

Let's see. Phils have a World Series championship 5 years ago. Diamondbacks 12 years ago. Sounds like we have been failing a bit less. But congrats on being two games ahead in the standings.

Like our friend Seahawks said, we have a $150M payrol, so we'll be good every year. Suck on that.

[AZGrizFan]

actually, yes they do. But what good would it do to rub the Phillies failures in in THAT thread?

Let's see. Phils have a World Series championship 5 years ago. Diamondbacks 12 years ago. Sounds like we have been failing a bit less. But congrats on being two games ahead in the standings.

Like our friend Seahawks said, we have a $150M payrol, so we'll be good every year. Suck on that.

Yep. Your owners paid $150 million dollars last year for THE EXACT SAME RECORD as the Diamondbacks. They're regular Einsteins.

Edit: Correction, Phillies payroll last year was $174 million. Exactly $100 million more than Arizonas.

[93henfan]

Let's see. Phils have a World Series championship 5 years ago. Diamondbacks 12 years ago. Sounds like we have been failing a bit less. But congrats on being two games ahead in the standings.

Like our friend Seahawks said, we have a $150M payrol, so we'll be good every year. Suck on that.

Yep. Your owners paid $150 million dollars last year for THE EXACT SAME RECORD as the Diamondbacks. They're regular Einsteins.

Edit: Correction, Phillies payroll last year was $174 million. Exactly $100 million more than Arizonas.

And the Phils ownership still made a killing. That's what happens when you have the highest attendance in MLB I guess.

[AZGrizFan]

Yep. Your owners paid $150 million dollars last year for THE EXACT SAME RECORD as the Diamondbacks. They're regular Einsteins.

Edit: Correction, Phillies payroll last year was $174 million. Exactly $100 million more than Arizonas.

And the Phils ownership still made a killing. That's what happens when you have the highest attendance in MLB I guess.

So that's how we're measuring success now? How fat the owners wallets get? Then the yankees ownership are geniuses.

[93henfan]

And the Phils ownership still made a killing. That's what happens when you have the highest attendance in MLB I guess.

So that's how we're measuring success now? How fat the owners wallets get? Then the yankees ownership are geniuses.

And they have 27 trophies to prove it. Hard to argue there.

[93henfan]

Associated Press

PHILADELPHIA -- Pinch-hitter Kevin Frandsen hit a bases-clearing, three-run double with two outs in the ninth off closer Greg Holland to lift the Phillies to a 4-3 victory over the Kansas City Royals on Saturday ....

Phils had just three hits on the night.

[BlueHen86]

Associated Press

PHILADELPHIA -- Pinch-hitter Kevin Frandsen hit a bases-clearing, three-run double with two outs in the ninth off closer Greg Holland to lift the Phillies to a 4-3 victory over the Kansas City Royals on Saturday ....

Phils had just three hits on the night.

The Phils loaded the bases on three walks with nobody out. Brown and Mayberry couldn't move the runners and Frandsen bailed them out.

Phils got a fairly good start from Lannen, 7 IP and 3 runs.

[AZGrizFan]

So that's how we're measuring success now? How fat the owners wallets get? Then the yankees ownership are geniuses.

And they have 27 trophies to prove it. Hard to argue there.

And how many since they started spending like drunken sailors? The same number as the Diamonbacks, Marlins, Phillies and White Sox and fewer than the Cardinals, Giants or Red Sox. yep. Brilliant.

[AZGrizFan]

Phils had just three hits on the night.

The Phils loaded the bases on three walks with nobody out. Brown and Mayberry couldn't move the runners and Frandsen bailed them out.

Phils got a fairly good start from Lannen, 7 IP and 3 runs.

Oh....Diamondbacks won again tonight.

[bluehenbillk]

Two thoughts -

Cole Hamels has sucked the life out of this baseball season in a mere six days, and..

Why is Chad Durbin pitching for us? Go to NASCAR and your true calling as a gasman. He's poured more gas on fires as a relief pitcher, it'd be a natural for him.

[GannonFan]

Two thoughts -

Cole Hamels has sucked the life out of this baseball season in a mere six days, and..

Why is Chad Durbin pitching for us? Go to NASCAR and your true calling as a gasman. He's poured more gas on fires as a relief pitcher, it'd be a natural for him.

But Cole said he's really happy with all his pitches right now and he thinks he's throwing really well. Apparently opposing batters are also really happy with all his pitches too.

[bluehenbillk]

Cole had no command yesterday - nibbled all day long. Billy Butler with 7 RBI's? gulp

[Ivytalk]

Two thoughts -

Cole Hamels has sucked the life out of this baseball season in a mere six days, and..

Why is Chad Durbin pitching for us? Go to NASCAR and your true calling as a gasman. He's poured more gas on fires as a relief pitcher, it'd be a natural for him.

But Cole said he's really happy with all his pitches right now and he thinks he's throwing really well. Apparently opposing batters are also really happy with all his pitches too.

Maybe Cole would pitch better if Heidi cut him off.