Obama announces $2 Billion for alternative energy research

[houndawg]

Uh, nobody suggested any different. Doesn't change the fact that oil gets a free ride on the back of the taxpayer in the form of free protection.

As does every US company (and to take it further many other countrie's companies) that has any business that takes place overseas. That's the problem with your argument, you want it to seem that Big Oil is the only industry that is benefitted by the US making the world a safer place to do business in, when in reality, every company that has business that crosses national borders enjoys the same benefit. Wind and solar get that benefit every time we buy components for those technologies from other countries. Your's is an impossible scenario where you want to assign a dollar figure for how much you think an industry benefits from American power and then charge the industry that amount. All you're doing in that case is picking winners and losers - no need to try to disguise that with fabricated "subsidies". Be honest.

Zat so? What other industries have we invaded countries over lately?

[GannonFan]

As does every US company (and to take it further many other countrie's companies) that has any business that takes place overseas. That's the problem with your argument, you want it to seem that Big Oil is the only industry that is benefitted by the US making the world a safer place to do business in, when in reality, every company that has business that crosses national borders enjoys the same benefit. Wind and solar get that benefit every time we buy components for those technologies from other countries. Your's is an impossible scenario where you want to assign a dollar figure for how much you think an industry benefits from American power and then charge the industry that amount. All you're doing in that case is picking winners and losers - no need to try to disguise that with fabricated "subsidies". Be honest.

Zat so? What other industries have we invaded countries over lately?

You're asking the question the wrong way, hence you're inability to grasp this concept. You need to think a little bit bigger, so put on your big boy thinking cap. America's foreign policy, including certainly the military arm of it and the deterrent it represents, helps to form the world we live in. It's in this world that capitalism has thrived (or at least made lots of money, depends on how you want to look at it) and because it has markets and countries are open for business, and most of the business is in things other than petroleum-based products. Sure the Iraq War had a direct link with oil, but it was also a small part in just another chapter of at least 70 years worth (since start of WWII) of US foreign policy that has directly and indirectly benefitted hundreds and thousands of businesses and industries that have nothing to do with oil. There, see, that wasn't so hard. Feel free to go get some cookies and milk now. Maybe a nap if you need it.

[houndawg]

Zat so? What other industries have we invaded countries over lately?

You're asking the question the wrong way, hence you're inability to grasp this concept. You need to think a little bit bigger, so put on your big boy thinking cap. America's foreign policy, including certainly the military arm of it and the deterrent it represents, helps to form the world we live in. It's in this world that capitalism has thrived (or at least made lots of money, depends on how you want to look at it) and because it has markets and countries are open for business, and most of the business is in things other than petroleum-based products. Sure the Iraq War had a direct link with oil, but it was also a small part in just another chapter of at least 70 years worth (since start of WWII) of US foreign policy that has directly and indirectly benefitted hundreds and thousands of businesses and industries that have nothing to do with oil. There, see, that wasn't so hard. Feel free to go get some cookies and milk now. Maybe a nap if you need it.

Yes, oil played a small part in the invasion of Viet Nam.

"...benefitted hundreds and thousands of business and industries thathave nothing to do with oil." What does that mean gf? Hundreds of businesses and thousands of industries? Really? Thousands of industries. Really?

[CID1990]

You're asking the question the wrong way, hence you're inability to grasp this concept. You need to think a little bit bigger, so put on your big boy thinking cap. America's foreign policy, including certainly the military arm of it and the deterrent it represents, helps to form the world we live in. It's in this world that capitalism has thrived (or at least made lots of money, depends on how you want to look at it) and because it has markets and countries are open for business, and most of the business is in things other than petroleum-based products. Sure the Iraq War had a direct link with oil, but it was also a small part in just another chapter of at least 70 years worth (since start of WWII) of US foreign policy that has directly and indirectly benefitted hundreds and thousands of businesses and industries that have nothing to do with oil. There, see, that wasn't so hard. Feel free to go get some cookies and milk now. Maybe a nap if you need it.

Yes, oil played a small part in the invasion of Viet Nam.

"...benefitted hundreds and thousands of business and industries thathave nothing to do with oil." What does that mean gf? Hundreds of businesses and thousands of industries? Really? Thousands of industries. Really?

Hunh?

Spandos, Vietnam was 100% about fear of global communism and the so-called domino effect. Period.

We have made plenty of strategic decisions over overseas business interests (read: stability is good for business), but Vietnam was not one of them.

Even the current Vietnamese government, as lopsidedly biased as they are, do not make the oil argument.


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[YoUDeeMan]

Hey guys...they are now saying that Syria is using WMDs.

Syria says the rebels used the chemicals.

The U.K, which is currently sending ARMORED VEHICLES to the rebels...is saying, as they have for quite some time, that if the use of chemical weapons is confirmed, they will, "change their approach." Obushma, oh so surprisingly, says WMDs are game changers, too.

You can bet we aren't going to reduce our valiant efforts to liberate Syria, or any other Middle Eastern country whose people do not have freedom from their ruling thugs - except, of course, those countries named United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia (and a whole host other oil bearing buddies that we call "allies").

Frankly, I would believe Assad over the rebels. The rebels are hoping the world gets more involved while Assad hope the support for the rebels fades.

Nothing like a fake report on self-inflicted wounds to get things going...as the folks in Gaza know.
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http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013 ... yria?lite=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[UNI88]

Yes, oil played a small part in the invasion of Viet Nam.

"...benefitted hundreds and thousands of business and industries thathave nothing to do with oil." What does that mean gf? Hundreds of businesses and thousands of industries? Really? Thousands of industries. Really?

Hunh?

Spandos, Vietnam was 100% about fear of global communism and the so-called domino effect. Period.

It's Exhoundspanosdawg to you good sir.

[UNI88]

Hey guys...they are now saying that Syria is using WMDs.

Syria says the rebels used the chemicals.

The U.K, which is currently sending ARMORED VEHICLES to the rebels...is saying, as they have for quite some time, that if the use of chemical weapons is confirmed, they will, "change their approach." Obushma, oh so surprisingly, says WMDs are game changers, too.

You can bet we aren't going to reduce our valiant efforts to liberate Syria, or any other Middle Eastern country whose people do not have freedom from their ruling thugs - except, of course, those countries named United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia (and a whole host other oil bearing buddies that we call "allies").

Frankly, I would believe Assad over the rebels. The rebels are hoping the world gets more involved while Assad hope the support for the rebels fades.

Nothing like a fake report on self-inflicted wounds to get things going...as the folks in Gaza know.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism ... ured-Child" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013 ... yria?lite=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Clucker, don't you know that the thugs in UAE, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, etc. are authoritarian thugs while the thugs in Syria, Libya, etc. are/were totalitarian thugs. There's a huge difference and it justifies everything. At least that's the logic they used during the Cold War and I doubt it's changed much.

[houndawg]

Yes, oil played a small part in the invasion of Viet Nam.

"...benefitted hundreds and thousands of business and industries thathave nothing to do with oil." What does that mean gf? Hundreds of businesses and thousands of industries? Really? Thousands of industries. Really?

Hunh?

Spandos, Vietnam was 100% about fear of global communism and the so-called domino effect. Period.

We have made plenty of strategic decisions over overseas business interests (read: stability is good for business), but Vietnam was not one of them.

Even the current Vietnamese government, as lopsidedly biased as they are, do not make the oil argument.


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Chomsky was right.

[mrklean]

Uh, our existence as a country is subsidized by the money and blood of the American taxpayer. Not just oil.

Uh, nobody suggested any different. Doesn't change the fact that oil gets a free ride on the back of the taxpayer in the form of free protection.

or the Air Force can buy another 20 F-22 Fighters. The DOD has a golden Visa Card........lol

[CID1990]

Uh, nobody suggested any different. Doesn't change the fact that oil gets a free ride on the back of the taxpayer in the form of free protection.

or the Air Force can buy another 20 F-22 Fighters. The DOD has a golden Visa Card........lol

The F22 was canceled, K.


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[mrklean]

or the Air Force can buy another 20 F-22 Fighters. The DOD has a golden Visa Card........lol

The F22 was canceled, K.


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ok, 30 F-35's. Our Military is such a tool of the GOP. Ike warned us about this!!!!!!!!