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Washington, D.C. - A smug, uncaring, ideologically rigid national Republican Party is turning off the majority of American voters, with stale policies that have changed little in 30 years and an image that alienates minorities and the young, according to an internal GOP study.

That blunt assessment on the state of Republicanism at the national level comes from a major new report, released Monday, that will likely shake up an already battered party. It was commissioned by the head of the Republican National Committee in the wake of Mitt Romney's defeat last year.


Without offering detailed policy prescriptions, the 98-page report calls on the party to "smartly change course," modernize itself and develop "a more welcoming brand of conservatism that invites and inspires new people to visit us."

There are extensive lists of proposals, many of them technological and procedural, designed to help the GOP better engage voters, especially women, minorities and the young, and reverse a losing pattern in five of the last six popular votes for president.

"Unless changes are made, it will be increasingly difficult for Republicans to win another presidential election in the near future," the report concludes.

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus, in remarks in Washington on the release of the study by the party's "Growth and Opportunity Project," is unsparing in his analysis of the 2012 election setback.

"Our message was weak. Our ground game was insufficient. We weren't inclusive. We were behind in both data and digital. Our primary and debate process needed improvement," he says, according to an advance text of his remarks.

"We know we have problems. We've identified them, and we're implementing the solutions to fix them," he says.

Most of the criticisms are familiar to those, both inside and outside the GOP, who have watched the party fail to come to grips with changing demographics and, instead, try to rely on older, white voters who represent a shrinking part of the electorate.

"Young voters are increasingly rolling their eyes at what the party represents, and many minorities wrongly think that Republicans do not like them or want them in the country. When someone rolls their eyes at us, they are not likely to open their ears to us," the report says. Young voters, it says, see the party as "old and detached from pop culture."

In calling for the GOP to develop "a more welcoming conservatism," the report rebukes those who remain in denial about the seriousness of the problem and those who are unwilling to broaden the party's appeal.

A just-concluded gathering of conservatives in Washington cheered speaker after speaker who urged the GOP to stick to its guns and, instead, largely blamed the 2012 defeat on Romney or the way he ran his campaign.

"The Republican Party needs to stop talking to itself," the study says. "We have become expert in how to provide ideological reinforcement to like-minded people, but devastatingly we have lost the ability to be persuasive with, or welcoming to, those who do not agree with us on every issue."

The report calls on Republicans to counter the party's image as an arm of business. It says Republicans should "blow the whistle at corporate malfeasance and attack corporate welfare. We should speak out when a company liquidates itself and its executives receive bonuses but rank-and-file workers are left unemployed. We should speak out when CEOs receive tens of millions of dollars in retirement packages but middle-class workers have not had a meaningful raise in years."


Beyond that, however, there are no policy details. Indeed, the authors point out that they are not a policy committee, in a section calling on the GOP to "embrace and champion" comprehensive immigration reform without further specifics.

In addition, an extensive set of "inclusion" proposals for minority groups, including Latinos, Asians and African-Americans, appears to mimic similar, failed outreach efforts by various RNC chairs over the last 30 years.

The report notes the party's problems with female voters, especially unmarried women. But its 10-point plan for appealing to women makes no mention of the GOP stance on any social issues, such as abortion and same-sex marriage, that have turned off many of the voters in question.

In a section on campaign mechanics, Republicans are advised to make "a critical cultural shift" on early, absentee, and online voting, trends that the report notes are "here to stay." The report fails to note, however, that Republican elected officials fought to block and even reverse that trend at the state level in 2012.

Although the RNC study spares Romney any direct criticism, it includes tacit criticism of GOP polling that seems directed at his campaign. Research conducted for the study report found that 70% of Republican pollsters surveyed said Democratic polling in 2012 "was better than our own. Fully 22% thought the Democrats did 'much better' than the Republicans when it came to accuracy and reliability."

In a section on party primaries, there are thinly veiled attacks on efforts by outside groups, such as those tied to former George W. Bush strategist Karl Rove and organizations like the Club for Growth, that seek to apply litmus tests or weed out candidates considered unelectable.

"It would be a mistake for any one organization to think it can circumvent GOP voters and handpick our nominees," the report says. "Third-party groups that promote purity are hurting our electoral prospects."


There are also calls for fewer candidate debates during the presidential primaries, a shorter nomination calendar and an earlier national convention.

The report is the product of a committee headed by Priebus' allies and supporters, including Henry Barbour of Mississippi, the nephew of former governor and RNC Chairman Haley Barbour; former George W. Bush White House spokesman Ari Fleischer; and Sally Bradshaw, a longtime adviser to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush.
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As long as the Republican Party stays out of his way we'll all welcome President Elect Christie in the fall of 2016.
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bluehenbillk wrote:As long as the Republican Party stays out of his way we'll all welcome President Elect Christie in the fall of 2016.
I agree with this. After all the surveying and research is done, at the end of the day, it's two candidates that pair off in the Election. The GOP's big problem in the past two Presidential elections is they had John McCain and Mitt Romney as their candidates, and the Dems had Obama. 2008 was clearly a Bush-fatigue by the voters along with a real energy for Obama, and 2012 was still a very pro-Obama electrorate, especially amongst his supporters, and a weak GOP candidate that was also Mormon. But in the end, it's the candidates that win or lose elections, not the parties they come from.
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bluehenbillk wrote:As long as the Republican Party stays out of his way we'll all welcome President Elect Christie in the fall of 2016.
I agree. They need to get Sarah Palin out of the mix. I have family members that are Democrats and think that Palin will be nominated in the next cycle. Yeah, after 2 losing elections the GOP will run a failed VP candidate that has quit every job she's been elected to and has less expierence than she did in 2008. :roll: Chrisite would be a great candidate.
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GannonFan wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:As long as the Republican Party stays out of his way we'll all welcome President Elect Christie in the fall of 2016.
I agree with this. After all the surveying and research is done, at the end of the day, it's two candidates that pair off in the Election. The GOP's big problem in the past two Presidential elections is they had John McCain and Mitt Romney as their candidates, and the Dems had Obama. 2008 was clearly a Bush-fatigue by the voters along with a real energy for Obama, and 2012 was still a very pro-Obama electrorate, especially amongst his supporters, and a weak GOP candidate that was also Mormon. But in the end, it's the candidates that win or lose elections, not the parties they come from.
Romney being a Mormon wasn't a factor.
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houndawg wrote:
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I agree with this. After all the surveying and research is done, at the end of the day, it's two candidates that pair off in the Election. The GOP's big problem in the past two Presidential elections is they had John McCain and Mitt Romney as their candidates, and the Dems had Obama. 2008 was clearly a Bush-fatigue by the voters along with a real energy for Obama, and 2012 was still a very pro-Obama electrorate, especially amongst his supporters, and a weak GOP candidate that was also Mormon. But in the end, it's the candidates that win or lose elections, not the parties they come from.
Romney being a Mormon wasn't a factor.
The problem with Romney is that he's Mitt Romney.

The problem with his religion is that it seems weird and unless you belong to Judaism, a Protestant Religion or Catholicism, I think most Americans think you are backwards. Hell, we have freedom of religion and Republicans (who love to quote the Constitution) love to make false claims about Obama being a Muslim and then ridicule Islam. :roll: Oh the irony! However, that is just my :twocents:
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Ibanez wrote:
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Romney being a Mormon wasn't a factor.
The problem with Romney is that he's Mitt Romney.

The problem with his religion is that it seems weirdand unless you belong to Judaism, a Protestant Religion or Catholicism, I think most Americans think you are backwards. Hell, we have freedom of religion and Republicans (who love to quote the Constitution) love to make false claims about Obama being a Muslim and then ridicule Islam. :roll: Oh the irony! However, that is just my :twocents:
Doesn't seem any weirder to me than any of the other versions of the recycled Egyptian sun-god myth that we call Christianity....
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bluehenbillk wrote:As long as the Republican Party stays out of his way we'll all welcome President Elect Christie in the fall of 2016.

Sorry, but a) Christie won't make it out of the primaries, because the Republican Party is incapable of staying out of the way and b) President-elect Hillary Clinton is winning regardless
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What does it mean by "stale policies that haven't changed in 30 years"? I thought Ronald Reagan would be a moderate in today's republican party and that Obama would be a republican 30 years ago?
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dbackjon wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:As long as the Republican Party stays out of his way we'll all welcome President Elect Christie in the fall of 2016.

Sorry, but a) Christie won't make it out of the primaries, because the Republican Party is incapable of staying out of the way and b) President-elect Hillary Clinton is winning regardless
I could see Christie as the national Pres of the Chamber of Commerce. :coffee:
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Pwns wrote:What does it mean by "stale policies that haven't changed in 30 years"? I thought Ronald Reagan would be a moderate in today's republican party and that Obama would be a republican 30 years ago?
I think it means that their policies are stale and haven't changed in 30 years.
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houndawg wrote:
Ibanez wrote: The problem with Romney is that he's Mitt Romney.

The problem with his religion is that it seems weirdand unless you belong to Judaism, a Protestant Religion or Catholicism, I think most Americans think you are backwards. Hell, we have freedom of religion and Republicans (who love to quote the Constitution) love to make false claims about Obama being a Muslim and then ridicule Islam. :roll: Oh the irony! However, that is just my :twocents:
Doesn't seem any weirder to me than any of the other versions of the recycled Egyptian sun-god myth that we call Christianity....
To average Christians, they 1) don't understand/know the religion and 2) they hear only of Kolob, LFDS, Polygamy and magic underwear instead of the virtues that are taught.
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Ibanez wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Doesn't seem any weirder to me than any of the other versions of the recycled Egyptian sun-god myth that we call Christianity....
To average Christians, they 1) don't understand/know the religion and 2) they hear only of Kolob, LFDS, Polygamy and magic underwear instead of the virtues that are taught.
"Average Christians" don't even realize that their entire religion is based on third-hand accounts of what somebody, who may or may not have actually existed, is reputed to have said.
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Ibanez wrote:
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Doesn't seem any weirder to me than any of the other versions of the recycled Egyptian sun-god myth that we call Christianity....
To average Christians, they 1) don't understand/know the religion and 2) they hear only of Kolob, LFDS, Polygamy and magic underwear instead of the virtues that are taught.
Statutory rape, nepotism, dual pricing with regards to religion, and exclusivity to name a few.

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Wedgebuster wrote:
Ibanez wrote: To average Christians, they 1) don't understand/know the religion and 2) they hear only of Kolob, LFDS, Polygamy and magic underwear instead of the virtues that are taught.
Statutory rape, nepotism, dual pricing with regards to religion, and exclusivity to name a few.

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Ibanez wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:
Statutory rape, nepotism, dual pricing with regards to religion, and exclusivity to name a few.

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Dual pricing?

Yes -- charging non-Mormons more for the same service or goods. Standard tenet of their faith. Mormonism was founded, like Scientology, as a money-making racket. It has worked beyond Joseph Smith's wildest dreams. A ponzi-scheme covered by the tax code, shielded by the 1st Amendment.
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dbackjon wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Dual pricing?

Yes -- charging non-Mormons more for the same service or goods. Standard tenet of their faith. Mormonism was founded, like Scientology, as a money-making racket. It has worked beyond Joseph Smith's wildest dreams. A ponzi-scheme covered by the tax code, shielded by the 1st Amendment.
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Wedgebuster wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Yes -- charging non-Mormons more for the same service or goods. Standard tenet of their faith. Mormonism was founded, like Scientology, as a money-making racket. It has worked beyond Joseph Smith's wildest dreams. A ponzi-scheme covered by the tax code, shielded by the 1st Amendment.
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It's a question of whether or not one wants to show leadership and push for the right thing or just mold your positions so as to maximize chances of being elected. Examples:

Illegal Immigration: Right thing is to crack down and refuse to tolerate it. But doing the wrong thing might increase percent vote among Hispanics.

Homosexual marriage: Right thing is to say that's ridiculous. But the soceity is increasingly afflicted by "Emperor's New Clothes" phenomenon when it comes to this issue.

Entitlement Programs: Right thing is to make serious cuts. Actually right thing is to eliminate the concept of entitlement programs. But going down that road politically is toxic.

Affirmative Action: Right thing is to eliminate the concept. But you're not going to gain anything among minorities by doing it.

Abortion: Right thing is to ban it in all cases except for those in which life of the mother is threatened so that if you don't do it both are going to die. But obvious political problems with doing the right thing.

Bottom line is that if a political party is taking its positions strictly in order to get elected there is no point in having a political party. Leadership means doing what you see as right and making your case. And if you ARE right and the People don't vote for you that's their problem. There's no point in getting elected if you're going to take the country down the same wrong road the Democratic Party's been taking it down.
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On the young voter thing:

The youngest voters typically vote Democratic. Then when they get older they transition towards voting Republican.

Why on Earth would you be pandering to the youngest voters if you are trying to do what's best? Do you think THAT'S the age group that knows what's best? Seriously now. They don't. They always think they do. But they never do. Not as a group.

Right. We want the direction of the country determined by doing what those in the 18 to 29 year old age group want done. Good GRIEF.

Of course it's not just age anyway. It's really more race and class than it is that. The majority of Whites in the 18 to 29 age group voted for Romney last time. Not by as much as the White population overall (51% to 44% vs. 59% to 39%). But the minority thing is way more of an issue for Republicans than the age thing is.
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JohnStOnge wrote:On the young voter thing:

The youngest voters typically vote Democratic. Then when they get older they transition towards voting Republican.

Why on Earth would you be pandering to the youngest voters if you are trying to do what's best? Do you think THAT'S the age group that knows what's best? Seriously now. They don't. They always think they do. But they never do. Not as a group.

Right. We want the direction of the country determined by doing what those in the 18 to 29 year old age group want done. Good GRIEF.

Of course it's not just age anyway. It's really more race and class than it is that. The majority of Whites in the 18 to 29 age group voted for Romney last time. Not by as much as the White population overall (51% to 44% vs. 59% to 39%). But the minority thing is way more of an issue for Republicans than the age thing is.
This would explain Romney's landslide victory among the aging baby-boomers.... :coffee:
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JohnStOnge wrote:It's a question of whether or not one wants to show leadership and push for the right thing or just mold your positions so as to maximize chances of being elected. Examples:

Illegal Immigration: Right thing is to crack down and refuse to tolerate it. But doing the wrong thing might increase percent vote among Hispanics.

Homosexual marriage: Right thing is to say that's ridiculous. But the soceity is increasingly afflicted by "Emperor's New Clothes" phenomenon when it comes to this issue.

Entitlement Programs: Right thing is to make serious cuts. Actually right thing is to eliminate the concept of entitlement programs. But going down that road politically is toxic.

Affirmative Action: Right thing is to eliminate the concept. But you're not going to gain anything among minorities by doing it.

Abortion: Right thing is to ban it in all cases except for those in which life of the mother is threatened so that if you don't do it both are going to die. But obvious political problems with doing the right thing.

Bottom line is that if a political party is taking its positions strictly in order to get elected there is no point in having a political party. Leadership means doing what you see as right and making your case. And if you ARE right and the People don't vote for you that's their problem. There's no point in getting elected if you're going to take the country down the same wrong road the Democratic Party's been taking it down.
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Conservative voices like Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin and Rick Perry have criticized this project by saying that the reason electoral losses have happened is because candidates weren't conservative enough and conservative turnout and enthusiasm was off. That is simply not true. It is another myth that has developed over the last few months.

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JohnStOnge wrote:It's a question of whether or not one wants to show leadership and push for the right thing or just mold your positions so as to maximize chances of being elected. Examples:

Illegal Immigration: Right thing is to crack down and refuse to tolerate it. But doing the wrong thing might increase percent vote among Hispanics.

Homosexual marriage: Right thing is to say that's ridiculous. But the soceity is increasingly afflicted by "Emperor's New Clothes" phenomenon when it comes to this issue.

Entitlement Programs: Right thing is to make serious cuts. Actually right thing is to eliminate the concept of entitlement programs. But going down that road politically is toxic.

Affirmative Action: Right thing is to eliminate the concept. But you're not going to gain anything among minorities by doing it.

Abortion: Right thing is to ban it in all cases except for those in which life of the mother is threatened so that if you don't do it both are going to die. But obvious political problems with doing the right thing.

Bottom line is that if a political party is taking its positions strictly in order to get elected there is no point in having a political party. Leadership means doing what you see as right and making your case. And if you ARE right and the People don't vote for you that's their problem. There's no point in getting elected if you're going to take the country down the same wrong road the Democratic Party's been taking it down.
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