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Chizzang wrote:
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Oh my bad, Venezuela had totally free, open, and transparent elections under Chavez... :rofl:
According to thousands of observers from all over the globe actually - yes
12 different watchdog agencies from across the globe
Several rated the last Venezuela election as one of the best in the world

This is common knowledge (BTW) outside of this country
I don't doubt the results, but he certainly tipped the elections heavily towards his favor with his policies.
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Look I'm not trying to say Venezuela is some kind of Democratic paradise
but for the love of Pete - can you guys quit reciting the MSNBC / FOX News play book on Chavez
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Chizzang wrote:Look I'm not trying to say Venezuela is some kind of Democratic paradise
but for the love of Pete - can you guys quit reciting the MSNBC / FOX News play book on Chavez
Do you think he's ordered the murder of at least one innocent person? If so, then he's a monster.
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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Oh my bad, Venezuela had totally free, open, and transparent elections under Chavez... :rofl:
According to thousands of observers from all over the globe actually - yes
12 different watchdog agencies from across the globe
Several rated the last Venezuela election as one of the best in the world


This is common knowledge (BTW) outside of this country
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BDKJMU wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
According to thousands of observers from all over the globe actually - yes
12 different watchdog agencies from across the globe
Several rated the last Venezuela election as one of the best in the world


This is common knowledge (BTW) outside of this country
Link?
:rofl: What..? Can't do anything for yourself?

Where's the US News agency shovel - so I can spoon feed you your opinion

You realize Stanford and the University of Washington had students in almost every Venezuelan State voting parish and municipality too...

http://www.stanford.edu/~dkronick/vz-elections2012/#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is not hard stuff to "go find" for yourself
and know full well how lazy Americans are and how highly we regard ourselves - this information can be placed right under our collective noses and we'll still believe what MSNBC tells us
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Chizzang wrote:My Niece (who lives in Seattle now) spent 4 months in Venezuela last year
She's fluent and employed by an Alternative Energy Company
She was doing a study in Venezuela
Her reports and experience in Venezuela are DRAMATICALLY different than Bloomberg News and FOX and MSNBC

She's no Chavez supporter (that's for sure)
But she basically said the US News is about 85% inaccurate on all accounts
I know that's hard to believe - because we hold ourselves in such high regard
My kids best friends' mother is from Venezuela and her extended family still live there. She visits them 2-3 times a year. I've talked to her many times about Chavez. She has a very different story than your niece. :coffee:
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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Oh my bad, Venezuela had totally free, open, and transparent elections under Chavez... :rofl:
According to thousands of observers from all over the globe actually - yes
12 different watchdog agencies from across the globe
Several rated the last Venezuela election as one of the best in the world

This is common knowledge (BTW) outside of this country
I read something yesterday that you have to scan your fingerprint to get to vote. Good way to track which person you voted for.

Also a good way to prevent vote fraud.

There's no doubt he has done some good for the poor in Venezuela. But I wonder how much more he could have done while he lined his and his families pockets with $2 billion.

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∞∞∞ wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
According to thousands of observers from all over the globe actually - yes
12 different watchdog agencies from across the globe
Several rated the last Venezuela election as one of the best in the world

This is common knowledge (BTW) outside of this country
I don't doubt the results, but he certainly tipped the elections heavily towards his favor with his policies.
You mean like Obama?

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Chizzang wrote:Look I'm not trying to say Venezuela is some kind of Democratic paradise
but for the love of Pete - can you guys quit reciting the MSNBC / FOX News play book on Chavez
Actually, the Mongoloids at MSNBC are standing in line with you waiting to perform fellatio Chavez' corpse.

Cool story about your niece, but I think I'll listen to the 190,000 Venezuelans living in the US who had to escape the wrath of the Chavez regime instead. :coffee:
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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Link?
:rofl: What..? Can't do anything for yourself?

Where's the US News agency shovel - so I can spoon feed you your opinion

You realize Stanford and the University of Washington had students in almost every Venezuelan State voting parish and municipality too...

http://www.stanford.edu/~dkronick/vz-elections2012/#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is not hard stuff to "go find" for yourself
and know full well how lazy Americans are and how highly we regard ourselves - this information can be placed right under our collective noses and we'll still believe what MSNBC tells us
No shit. You'd think we were talking about Stalin...or Saddam Hussein...or Colin Cowherd or something.
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kalm wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
:rofl: What..? Can't do anything for yourself?

Where's the US News agency shovel - so I can spoon feed you your opinion

You realize Stanford and the University of Washington had students in almost every Venezuelan State voting parish and municipality too...

http://www.stanford.edu/~dkronick/vz-elections2012/#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is not hard stuff to "go find" for yourself
and know full well how lazy Americans are and how highly we regard ourselves - this information can be placed right under our collective noses and we'll still believe what MSNBC tells us
No ****. You'd think we were talking about Stalin...or Saddam Hussein...or Colin Cowherd or something.
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ASUMountaineer wrote:
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No ****. You'd think we were talking about Stalin...or Saddam Hussein...or Colin Cowherd or something.
kalm, when you're right...you're right! :thumb:
I was hoping you'd wander over. :thumb: :lol:
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Baldy wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Look I'm not trying to say Venezuela is some kind of Democratic paradise
but for the love of Pete - can you guys quit reciting the MSNBC / FOX News play book on Chavez
Actually, the Mongoloids at MSNBC are standing in line with you waiting to perform fellatio Chavez' corpse.

Cool story about your niece, but I think I'll listen to the 190,000 Venezuelans living in the US who had to escape the wrath of the Chavez regime instead. :coffee:
Speaking of corpse: I'm surprised you can speak with Ronald Reagan's rotting penis in your mouth :rofl:

Indeed there are almost 200,000 Venezuelans living in America
Anytime there dramatic change in a country there will be legitimate opposition
Particularly when the change was so dramatic and controversial as with Venezuela
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I'm still trying to turn it over in my head how you can take a basket case of a country and somehow divorce it from a leader whose policies made it that way.


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CID1990 wrote:I'm still trying to turn it over in my head how you can take a basket case of a country and somehow divorce it from a leader whose policies made it that way.


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Yup - Chavez, Bush, etc.
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CID1990 wrote:I'm still trying to turn it over in my head how you can take a basket case of a country and somehow divorce it from a leader whose policies made it that way.


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Well he's done it his way...
Which is more than can be said about any president we've had since Eisenhower
Sure Chavez is a douche Bag (obviously)
But he's no puppet - and that makes daddy War Bucks angry
Private Central banks and oil multi-nationals tossed out on their asses


:nod:


I'll be back in a couple months when something else interesting happens (speak kindly on my behalf)


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dbackjon wrote:
CID1990 wrote:I'm still trying to turn it over in my head how you can take a basket case of a country and somehow divorce it from a leader whose policies made it that way.


Sent from the center of the universe.

Yup - Chavez, Bush, etc.
By etc I am sure you mean Clinton and Obama of course.


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kalm wrote:
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kalm, when you're right...you're right! :thumb:
I was hoping you'd wander over. :thumb: :lol:
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Chizzang wrote:Look I'm not trying to say Venezuela is some kind of Democratic paradise
but for the love of Pete - can you guys quit reciting the MSNBC / FOX News play book on Chavez
Its what they do.
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dbackjon wrote:
CID1990 wrote:I'm still trying to turn it over in my head how you can take a basket case of a country and somehow divorce it from a leader whose policies made it that way.


Sent from the center of the universe.

Yup - Chavez, Bush, etc.

LOL...You kidding me!

I'm sure Nobama walks on water in your eyes... :tothehand:
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Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Yup - Chavez, Bush, etc.

LOL...You kidding me!

I'm sure Nobama walks on water in your eyes... :tothehand:
Well he would have to walk on water being that he cannot swim. ;)
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grizzaholic wrote:
Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:

LOL...You kidding me!

I'm sure Nobama walks on water in your eyes... :tothehand:
Well he would have to walk on water being that he cannot swim. ;)
Wait. What?
He can't lead, throw, AND swim???
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CAA Flagship wrote:
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Well he would have to walk on water being that he cannot swim. ;)
Wait. What?
He can't lead, throw, AND swim???
Just sayin'
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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Link?
:rofl: What..? Can't do anything for yourself?

Where's the US News agency shovel - so I can spoon feed you your opinion

You realize Stanford and the University of Washington had students in almost every Venezuelan State voting parish and municipality too...

http://www.stanford.edu/~dkronick/vz-elections2012/#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is not hard stuff to "go find" for yourself
and know full well how lazy Americans are and how highly we regard ourselves - this information can be placed right under our collective noses and we'll still believe what MSNBC tells us
Yeah, I'm sure the elections were free and fair. That Chavez's opponents were free to criticize Chavez all they wanted and got equal and unbiased coverage from the state run media controlled by Chavez. :roll:
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mrklean wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Look I'm not trying to say Venezuela is some kind of Democratic paradise
but for the love of Pete - can you guys quit reciting the MSNBC / FOX News play book on Chavez
Its what they do.
Something klean has never been guilty of. :roll: When Klean says "they," what he means is "whites" and/or "Republicans." Klean is MSNBC.
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