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"I didn't realize I was so evil and hateful an individual I deserved to be treated in such fashion.

But when I look at the arguments, I think they may be correct:

"At the time the Constitution was written, the weapons in question were muskets."

You know what? You're right. And marriage was between one man and one woman. So what's with gay marriage? No longer will I offer any moral support, oppose any online statements attacking it, speak out for it. They have the same right as anyone—to marry someone of the opposite gender. And given that all gays support raping little boys (just like all gun owners support shooting school kids), I don't think I can support them. We should do things just the way they were done 220 years ago. That's the liberal way.

"The Heller Decision was by an activist court. It doesn't count."

Indeed. Just like Roe v Wade was an activist decision. It doesn't count.

"We're not trying to take your guns away, just have reasonable limits. It's a compromise."

And some people want reasonable limits on abortion, like waiting periods, gestational time limits, ultrasound, etc. It's a reasonable response to an activist court decision, and reasonable restrictions on a right, for public benefit. Don't come whining about your right to murder babies, and I won't come to you whining about my right to shoot school kids.

And no one is saying you can't ride the bus. You just have to sit where people think is reasonable. No one is saying women can't work. They just have to get paid what is reasonable for the work they do, allowing for the fact they're going to leave the workplace and raise a family. It's a compromise.

"Assault weapons are an extreme interpretation."

True. And not allowing any religious emblems on government premises is an extreme interpretation. As long as they're privately paid for, what's it to you? No one is saying you can't belong to the Christian church of your choice, just not to extreme groups, like atheists or Muslims. It would be paranoid to think anyone was trying to infringe on your legitimate right to be free from state religion, just like I'd be paranoid to think they wanted to take my guns. Quite a few states had official churches well into the 1800s. This is not an infringement on your freedom of religion.

"Given Sandy Hook, you have to make reasonable compromises."

"We just want licensing and safe storage requirements so the wrong people don't get guns."

"Publicizing the information lets people make informed choices about who they live near."

Accepted. In exchange, gay men should make reasonable compromises over Penn State. They will simply have to accept being registered and kept a safe distance from children. This isn't a violation of their rights. It's just common sense. The public has a right to know.

This should apply to protests, too. No reasonable person would object to being identified. They should welcome it—it means they can't be wrongly maligned. All union members, blacks, gays and feminists should be signed in with ID before a march or gathering, just so we can track the real criminals to keep the rest safe.

"The country survived without assault weapons for 240 years."

True (well, no, it was 135 years, depending on your definition of "assault weapon"). And it survived without women in combat even longer. The infantry's trying to scare off women? Serves them right. Things were working just fine the way they were.

"This woman is being badly portrayed on the cover of a book."

No, no, that's an accurate portrayal, just like all military contractors are sociopathic mercenaries who torture people, all gun owners are moral cowards with Walter Mitty complexes and all gun dealers exist to make money from gangbangers. It's silly to suggest one group is singled out for inaccurate portrayals when we know the other portrayals are spot on.

Yup. I'm taking you at your word. Want money? Don't care. Want a petition signed? Call someone who who gives a shit. Want a link spread? Yawn. Women or gays or blacks or Hispanics don't feel they're being treated nicely? So what?"

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Thanks for sharing Col. Yes, this guy gets it. As he points out, Liberals have transitioned from being open minded and accepting of people and behaviors that are persecuted by others to anything but, instead persecuting those with whom they do not agree.

To quote the old saw, "If you are not liberal as a youth you lack heart, and if you are not conservative as you age, you lack a brain."
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Col Hogan = gun fetishist and war profiteer.
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D1B wrote:Col Hogan = gun fetishist and war profiteer.
As Jackie Chiles said to Jerry, Elaine, George and Kramer "You people have a little pet name for everybody."
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TheDancinMonarch wrote:
D1B wrote:Col Hogan = gun fetishist and war profiteer.
As Jackie Chiles said to Jerry, Elaine, George and Kramer "You people have a little pet name for everybody."

TheDancinMonarch = fuzzy dingleberry
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D1B wrote:
TheDancinMonarch wrote:
As Jackie Chiles said to Jerry, Elaine, George and Kramer "You people have a little pet name for everybody."

TheDancinMonarch = fuzzy dingleberry
It might help you in the long run if you could develop a sense of humor.
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Col Hogan wrote:"I didn't realize I was so evil and hateful an individual I deserved to be treated in such fashion.

But when I look at the arguments, I think they may be correct:

"At the time the Constitution was written, the weapons in question were muskets."

You know what? You're right. And marriage was between one man and one woman. So what's with gay marriage? No longer will I offer any moral support, oppose any online statements attacking it, speak out for it. They have the same right as anyone—to marry someone of the opposite gender. And given that all gays support raping little boys (just like all gun owners support shooting school kids), I don't think I can support them. We should do things just the way they were done 220 years ago. That's the liberal way.

"The Heller Decision was by an activist court. It doesn't count."

Indeed. Just like Roe v Wade was an activist decision. It doesn't count.

"We're not trying to take your guns away, just have reasonable limits. It's a compromise."

And some people want reasonable limits on abortion, like waiting periods, gestational time limits, ultrasound, etc. It's a reasonable response to an activist court decision, and reasonable restrictions on a right, for public benefit. Don't come whining about your right to murder babies, and I won't come to you whining about my right to shoot school kids.

And no one is saying you can't ride the bus. You just have to sit where people think is reasonable. No one is saying women can't work. They just have to get paid what is reasonable for the work they do, allowing for the fact they're going to leave the workplace and raise a family. It's a compromise.

"Assault weapons are an extreme interpretation."

True. And not allowing any religious emblems on government premises is an extreme interpretation. As long as they're privately paid for, what's it to you? No one is saying you can't belong to the Christian church of your choice, just not to extreme groups, like atheists or Muslims. It would be paranoid to think anyone was trying to infringe on your legitimate right to be free from state religion, just like I'd be paranoid to think they wanted to take my guns. Quite a few states had official churches well into the 1800s. This is not an infringement on your freedom of religion.

"Given Sandy Hook, you have to make reasonable compromises."

"We just want licensing and safe storage requirements so the wrong people don't get guns."

"Publicizing the information lets people make informed choices about who they live near."

Accepted. In exchange, gay men should make reasonable compromises over Penn State. They will simply have to accept being registered and kept a safe distance from children. This isn't a violation of their rights. It's just common sense. The public has a right to know.

This should apply to protests, too. No reasonable person would object to being identified. They should welcome it—it means they can't be wrongly maligned. All union members, blacks, gays and feminists should be signed in with ID before a march or gathering, just so we can track the real criminals to keep the rest safe.

"The country survived without assault weapons for 240 years."

True (well, no, it was 135 years, depending on your definition of "assault weapon"). And it survived without women in combat even longer. The infantry's trying to scare off women? Serves them right. Things were working just fine the way they were.

"This woman is being badly portrayed on the cover of a book."

No, no, that's an accurate portrayal, just like all military contractors are sociopathic mercenaries who torture people, all gun owners are moral cowards with Walter Mitty complexes and all gun dealers exist to make money from gangbangers. It's silly to suggest one group is singled out for inaccurate portrayals when we know the other portrayals are spot on.

Yup. I'm taking you at your word. Want money? Don't care. Want a petition signed? Call someone who who gives a shit. Want a link spread? Yawn. Women or gays or blacks or Hispanics don't feel they're being treated nicely? So what?"

http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/blog/ ... -everybody" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Are you fucking serious? Gay men should register? The post reads as if his tongue is firmly in his cheek.
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Ibanez wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:"I didn't realize I was so evil and hateful an individual I deserved to be treated in such fashion.

But when I look at the arguments, I think they may be correct:

"At the time the Constitution was written, the weapons in question were muskets."

You know what? You're right. And marriage was between one man and one woman. So what's with gay marriage? No longer will I offer any moral support, oppose any online statements attacking it, speak out for it. They have the same right as anyone—to marry someone of the opposite gender. And given that all gays support raping little boys (just like all gun owners support shooting school kids), I don't think I can support them. We should do things just the way they were done 220 years ago. That's the liberal way.

"The Heller Decision was by an activist court. It doesn't count."

Indeed. Just like Roe v Wade was an activist decision. It doesn't count.

"We're not trying to take your guns away, just have reasonable limits. It's a compromise."

And some people want reasonable limits on abortion, like waiting periods, gestational time limits, ultrasound, etc. It's a reasonable response to an activist court decision, and reasonable restrictions on a right, for public benefit. Don't come whining about your right to murder babies, and I won't come to you whining about my right to shoot school kids.

And no one is saying you can't ride the bus. You just have to sit where people think is reasonable. No one is saying women can't work. They just have to get paid what is reasonable for the work they do, allowing for the fact they're going to leave the workplace and raise a family. It's a compromise.

"Assault weapons are an extreme interpretation."

True. And not allowing any religious emblems on government premises is an extreme interpretation. As long as they're privately paid for, what's it to you? No one is saying you can't belong to the Christian church of your choice, just not to extreme groups, like atheists or Muslims. It would be paranoid to think anyone was trying to infringe on your legitimate right to be free from state religion, just like I'd be paranoid to think they wanted to take my guns. Quite a few states had official churches well into the 1800s. This is not an infringement on your freedom of religion.

"Given Sandy Hook, you have to make reasonable compromises."

"We just want licensing and safe storage requirements so the wrong people don't get guns."

"Publicizing the information lets people make informed choices about who they live near."

Accepted. In exchange, gay men should make reasonable compromises over Penn State. They will simply have to accept being registered and kept a safe distance from children. This isn't a violation of their rights. It's just common sense. The public has a right to know.

This should apply to protests, too. No reasonable person would object to being identified. They should welcome it—it means they can't be wrongly maligned. All union members, blacks, gays and feminists should be signed in with ID before a march or gathering, just so we can track the real criminals to keep the rest safe.

"The country survived without assault weapons for 240 years."

True (well, no, it was 135 years, depending on your definition of "assault weapon"). And it survived without women in combat even longer. The infantry's trying to scare off women? Serves them right. Things were working just fine the way they were.

"This woman is being badly portrayed on the cover of a book."

No, no, that's an accurate portrayal, just like all military contractors are sociopathic mercenaries who torture people, all gun owners are moral cowards with Walter Mitty complexes and all gun dealers exist to make money from gangbangers. It's silly to suggest one group is singled out for inaccurate portrayals when we know the other portrayals are spot on.

Yup. I'm taking you at your word. Want money? Don't care. Want a petition signed? Call someone who who gives a shit. Want a link spread? Yawn. Women or gays or blacks or Hispanics don't feel they're being treated nicely? So what?"

http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/blog/ ... -everybody" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Are you fucking serious? Gay men should register? The post reads as if his tongue is firmly in his cheek.
It's suppose to be and he scores a couple of good hits but it mostly comes off as whining disguised as satire.

It would be easy to write the conservative equivalent. :coffee:
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D1B wrote:Col Hogan = gun fetishist and war profiteer.
D1B = one trick troll
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kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Are you **** serious? Gay men should register? The post reads as if his tongue is firmly in his cheek.
It's suppose to be and he scores a couple of good hits but it mostly comes off as whining disguised as satire.

It would be easy to write the conservative equivalent. :coffee:
So start scrivening, Karl Rove. :coffee:
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
It's suppose to be and he scores a couple of good hits but it mostly comes off as whining disguised as satire.

It would be easy to write the conservative equivalent. :coffee:
So start scrivening, Karl Rove. :coffee:
I believe you've been slapped with a velvet glove Kalm ... do you accept the challenge? I don't doubt you can do it but I too would like to see the "conservative equivalent". :stir:
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
It's suppose to be and he scores a couple of good hits but it mostly comes off as whining disguised as satire.

It would be easy to write the conservative equivalent. :coffee:
So start scrivening, Karl Rove. :coffee:
Meh...to easy. :coffee:

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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: So start scrivening, Karl Rove. :coffee:
I think I hear my mother calling me. :coffee:
FIFY.
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