Cop killer with a mission

[mrklean]

What was his MOS in the Navy. All I know is that he was a O-3(LT)

Shut up with your filthy army talk and acronyms. They don't have to specialize in the Navy because naval officers are smart and breathe through their noses.

[93henfan]

What was his MOS in the Navy. All I know is that he was a O-3(LT)

Google doesn't turn up a specific MOS (if that's what the Navy calls it; the Marine Corps does use the term MOS). Dorner commanded a reserve security detatchment, so I'm assuming he was the equivalent of a military police MOS in the Marine Corps or Army.

Also, you're a BITCH!!!

[houndawg]

What was his MOS in the Navy. All I know is that he was a O-3(LT)

Shut up with your filthy army talk and acronyms. They don't have to specialize in the Navy because naval officers are smart and breathe through their noses.

Not this one.

[93henfan]

Shut up with your filthy army talk and acronyms. They don't have to specialize in the Navy because naval officers are smart and breathe through their noses.

Not this one.

The body count would indicate that he was at least smarter than LAPD.

I mean, he was holed up for days just steps from their command post. You're doing a heckuva job, LAPD.

[houndawg]

No he isn't bulletproof but there comes a point at which it becomes pretty evident that for whatever reason he could handle himself pretty well. I mean, the last time I heard Furman saying that stuff he had just had a gun battle with two deputies and an unknown number of wildlife agents (presumably at least two), gotten through it, and knocked two officers down including killing one. I understand what Furman was saying about the formal training he had but sometimes formal training isn't the whole story (I'm talking about in a general sense; in any area of expertise). I mean, what is the point of basically saying, "he's not all that" in terms of threat level when he just took on at least four law enforcement officers in a gun battle and came out on the better end of it?

Initiative, ambush, police rules of engagement. Those are much more significant factors than Dorners training in this situation.

The first two were, anyway. PD rules of engagement? I don't think so, they were shooting any truck that vaguely resembled Dorner's. Of course, that may be the LAPD's rules of engagement....

[89Hen]

BTW, I was going to originally post he would be caught within a week, but I chickened out.

[CID1990]

Initiative, ambush, police rules of engagement. Those are much more significant factors than Dorners training in this situation.

The first two were, anyway. PD rules of engagement? I don't think so, they were shooting any truck that vaguely resembled Dorner's. Of course, that may be the LAPD's rules of engagement....

I was responding specifically to the assertion that Dorner's training somehow gave him a leg up in this matter. In that respect, the ROE do affect how much of a drop an assailant can get on unsuspecting police.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Not this one.

The body count would indicate that he was at least smarter than LAPD.

I mean, he was holed up for days just steps from their command post. You're doing a heckuva job, LAPD.

The cabin he fled to after crashing the truck he stole was, but he was holed up in a different cabin whose two female occupants he had tied up. I don't know where that one was located.

[93henfan]

The body count would indicate that he was at least smarter than LAPD.

I mean, he was holed up for days just steps from their command post. You're doing a heckuva job, LAPD.

The cabin he fled to after crashing the truck he stole was, but he was holed up in a different cabin whose two female occupants he had tied up. I don't know where that one was located.

Yeah I just heard that a little while ago.

In other news: I wonder now if Dorner's survivors are going to sue LAPD (or whatever Department gave the order) for burning the cabin? I'm guessing it's not SOP, like anywhere in the entire USA, to surround a suspect and then set the building they're in on fire.

This whole deal is only going to be a treasure trove for the expandos types. It's Waco all over again.

[AZGrizFan]

The cabin he fled to after crashing the truck he stole was, but he was holed up in a different cabin whose two female occupants he had tied up. I don't know where that one was located.

Yeah I just heard that a little while ago.

In other news: I wonder now if Dorner's survivors are going to sue LAPD (or whatever Department gave the order) for burning the cabin? I'm guessing it's not SOP, like anywhere in the entire USA, to surround a suspect and then set the building they're in on fire.

Very John Wilkes Boothish of them.

[JohnStOnge]

I wasn't talking about his formal training necessarily giving him any kind of an edge. All I'm saying is that he was dangerous and was a serious threat to police officers who confronted him. As in any situation, I think, formal training is not the whole story. It is a factor. A big factor. But not the whole thing.

[houndawg]

I wasn't talking about his formal training necessarily giving him any kind of an edge. All I'm saying is that he was dangerous and was a serious threat to police officers who confronted him. As in any situation, I think, formal training is not the whole story. It is a factor. A big factor. But not the whole thing.

The whole thing is who gets the drop.

[CID1990]

I wasn't talking about his formal training necessarily giving him any kind of an edge. All I'm saying is that he was dangerous and was a serious threat to police officers who confronted him. As in any situation, I think, formal training is not the whole story. It is a factor. A big factor. But not the whole thing.

The whole thing is who gets the drop.

Think about it. That is almost never the cop, unless it is in an ongoing incident where the police are already alerted.

[houndawg]

The whole thing is who gets the drop.

Think about it. That is almost never the cop, unless it is in an ongoing incident where the police are already alerted.

I agree. I was pointing out to John that this is of the "ongoing incident" type.

[mrklean]

The more I look at this case, the more it stinks. The LAPD put out a Million Dollar bounty on this mans head....WHY??? Secondly, They burned the cabin while a person was still in it. The LAPD did not want this man alive, and they sure as hell did not him to go to trial. I wonder why?? Good ole LAPD........

[D1B]

The more I look at this case, the more it stinks. The LAPD put out a Million Dollar bounty on this mans head....WHY??? Secondly, They burned the cabin while a person was still in it. The LAPD did not want this man alive, and they sure as hell did not him to go to trial. I wonder why?? Good ole LAPD........

LAPD taking lessons from the Catholic Church

[mrklean]

The more I look at this case, the more it stinks. The LAPD put out a Million Dollar bounty on this mans head....WHY??? Secondly, They burned the cabin while a person was still in it. The LAPD did not want this man alive, and they sure as hell did not him to go to trial. I wonder why?? Good ole LAPD........

LAPD taking lessons from the Catholic Church

Yes that are

[Wedgebuster]

So far all the coroner has been able to tell about the body is that it appears to be black.

[houndawg]

So far all the coroner has been able to tell about the body is that it appears to be black.

groan.

No Jeffrey Dahmer jokes? Gettin' soft around here...

[Ibanez]

Yeah I just heard that a little while ago.

In other news: I wonder now if Dorner's survivors are going to sue LAPD (or whatever Department gave the order) for burning the cabin? I'm guessing it's not SOP, like anywhere in the entire USA, to surround a suspect and then set the building they're in on fire.

Very John Wilkes Boothish of them.

[mrklean]

Very John Wilkes Boothish of them.

We all knew that the LAPD was going to kill this man. Bringing this guy in alive was not in the plans.

[Grizalltheway]

We all knew that the LAPD was going to kill this man. Bringing this guy in alive was not in the plans.

And we all know you wouldn't give two shits about it if he were white.

[AZGrizFan]

The more I look at this case, the more it stinks. The LAPD put out a Million Dollar bounty on this mans head....WHY??? Secondly, They burned the cabin while a person was still in it. The LAPD did not want this man alive, and they sure as hell did not him to go to trial. I wonder why?? Good ole LAPD........

Gee...lets see here...he's killed three cops and two other people...I wonder why they wanted him dead?

[93henfan]

So far all the coroner has been able to tell about the body is that it appears to be black.

[Col Hogan]

So far all the coroner has been able to tell about the body is that it appears to be black.

Race or Char???