Obamacare Kills Jobs...

[CitadelGrad]

Well, on the other side of the coin, we've been operating in a whatever-medical-procedure/drug-you-want-whenever-you-want-it-and-preferably-free-or-heavily-subsidized-so-that-you-pay-little-or-nothing-for-it culture for a few decades now.

But yeah, Obamacare is basically about making health car sh*ttier in the hope that that will make it more affordable.

Wrong. The idea behind Obamacare is making healthcare shittier and more expensive. The long play is to create an overwhelming demand for single-payer healthcare.

[Baldy]

But yeah, Obamacare is basically about making health car sh*ttier in the hope that that will make it more affordable.

Wrong. The idea behind Obamacare is making healthcare shittier and more expensive. The long play is to create an overwhelming demand for single-payer healthcare.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

[mrklean]

The bill I just got from my MRI I had on my left knee. My co-pay was 250.00, I asked a guy who was sitting next to me, how much did they charge him. HE tod me that the price for people who did not have insurance was 800.00.

Well, the illegal immigrant sitting next to him paid nothing.

Just so WRONG

[Bronco]

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Sorry the name has been changed again..keep up


Dem Rep. Conyers At Immigration Hearing: “I Hope No One Uses The Term ‘Illegal Immigrants’ Here Today,”

They Are Citizens “Out Of Status”…


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[kalm]

Wrong. The idea behind Obamacare is making healthcare shittier and more expensive. The long play is to create an overwhelming demand for single-payer healthcare.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

Well considering it would then be better and cheaper than what we had before Obamacare...one can only hope!

[Baldy]

Winner winner chicken dinner.

Well considering it would then be better and cheaper than what we had before Obamacare...one can only hope!

You're right, the federal government has a pristine track record of doing everything so much cheaper and better than the private sector.

Two dunce caps for you...

[D1B]

But yeah, Obamacare is basically about making health car sh*ttier in the hope that that will make it more affordable.

Wrong. The idea behind Obamacare is making healthcare shittier and more expensive. The long play is to create an overwhelming demand for single-payer healthcare.

conkspeakm = bullshit

[Bronco]

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One of My senators Baucus was saying he wrote the bill and when asked about some details in the plan said he hadn't read it

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“If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what.” – Barack Obama, July 2009

Via Washington Examiner:

President Obama famously promised Americans that if they liked their health care plan they could keep it, but a new report from the Congressional Budget Office estimates that 7 million Americans will lose employer-based insurance as a result of his national health care law.

“In 2022, by CBO and JCT’s estimate, 7 million fewer people will have employment-based health insurance as a result of the Affordable Care Act,” the CBO announced in its new budget outlook released on Tuesday. This is up from an estimate of 4 million last August, mostly reflecting the effects of tax changes.

[CitadelGrad]

Winner winner chicken dinner.

Well considering it would then be better and cheaper than what we had before Obamacare...one can only hope!

There really is no hope for you if you believe that. Gump, why didn't you also say it would be more readily available?

[LeadBolt]

Not only will Obama-care kill jobs, but it will also kill seniors and other non-favored groups through the medical panels that will govern rationing.

[D1B]

Not only will Obama-care kill jobs, but it will also kill seniors and other non-favored groups through the medical panels that will govern rationing.

Rush Limbaugh, 2010

Fixed

[kalm]

Well considering it would then be better and cheaper than what we had before Obamacare...one can only hope!

There really is no hope for you if you believe that. Gump, why didn't you also say it would be more readily available?

Meh...we've been through this before. For-profit insurance is inefficient and unnecessary.

[YoUDeeMan]

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Sorry the name has been changed again..keep up


Dem Rep. Conyers At Immigration Hearing: “I Hope No One Uses The Term ‘Illegal Immigrants’ Here Today,”

They Are Other Country's Citizens “Out Of Status”…


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FIFY

[travelinman67]

Hey, Copernicus, he WAS a govt. funded community organization.

US medical system is bloated, inefficient and exploitative. Thank you Mr. Barack Obama for tightening it up.

So, you're acknowledging "govt. funded" progams are inefficient and wasteful?

Welcome to Conkland!

[D1B]

Hey, Copernicus, he WAS a govt. funded community organization.

US medical system is bloated, inefficient and exploitative. Thank you Mr. Barack Obama for tightening it up.

So, you're acknowledging "govt. funded" progams are inefficient and wasteful?

Welcome to Conkland!

Many gub programs...

Almost every donk acknowledges it too.

The difference between you and I is that I believe we can and must do better. You just want to dismantle government to the point where it no longer functions so you can then steal our nation's human and natural resources for personal benefit. Started this shit with Reagan.

There was a time when the best and brightest aspired to work for the government and worked with a deep sense of duty and pride in a job well done. 30 years ago, you and your Cali neocon cronies launched a vicious campaign that continues to this day to gut goverment programs to the point of inefficiency and villify government work, unless it was killing brown- skinned people. Now we have the mess we have.

We need government to protect humanity from you and the Baldy/ALPACAJIZZ1's of the world.

[travelinman67]

"... so you can then steal our nation's human and natural resources for personal benefit."

"This land is your land, this land is my land...." NOT the government's. The national resources belong to it's people, and in some cases, the businesses they own.

It's simple.

Some people are smart and resourceful, some are lazy and resentful. I use my land, sometimes for profit. I'm sorry you resent that.

[D1B]

"... so you can then steal our nation's human and natural resources for personal benefit."

"This land is your land, this land is my land...." NOT the government's. The national resources belong to it's people, and in some cases, the businesses they own.

It's simple.

Some people are smart and resourceful, some are lazy and resentful. I use my land, sometimes for profit. I'm sorry you resent that.

That's fine and I'll make sure we have a government to monitor you...you know...make sure you're not polluting or otherwise ruining the air, water and surrounding environment, that does not belong to you.


It's not really you, its your friends.

[kalm]

"This land is your land, this land is my land...." NOT the government's. The national resources belong to it's people, and in some cases, the businesses they own.

It's simple.

Some people are smart and resourceful, some are lazy and resentful. I use my land, sometimes for profit. I'm sorry you resent that.

That's fine and I'll make sure we have a government to monitor you...you know...make sure you're not polluting or otherwise ruining the air, water and surrounding environment, that does not belong to you.


It's not really you, its your friends.

D is ripping the ti...er man boobs off this one.

Tman and Woody Guthrie...two pees in a pod!

Let's have Christ our President
Let us have him for our king
Cast your vote for the Carpenter
That they call the Nazarene

The only way
We could ever beat
These crooked politician men

Is to cast the moneychangers
Out of the temple
Put the Carpenter in

Oh it's Jesus Christ our President
God above our king
With a job and pension for young and old
We will make hallelujah ring

Every year we waste enough
To feed the ones who starve
We build our civilization up
And we shoot it down with wars

But with the Carpenter
On the seat
Way up in the capitol town

The USA
Be on the way
Prosperity bound

[Baldy]

Leave it to kalm to post lyrics from a Commie.

[kalm]

Leave it to kalm to post lyrics from a Commie.

Actually T-man posted them first and it was terrific satire given the lyrics of the song.

Guthrie interacted with commies while in L.A. but you won't find too many commies writing songs hoping for Jesus as president. And wait a minute, I thought you guys always claimed that the commies were fascists?

But leave it to Baldy to rely upon labels to simplify the big scary world.

(btw, for those who like alt country and folk, Wilco and Billy Bragg's Guthrie tribute albums, Mermaid Avenue's I and II are absolutely terrific. )

[Baldy]

Leave it to kalm to post lyrics from a Commie.

Actually T-man posted them first and it was terrific satire given the lyrics of the song.

Guthrie interacted with commies while in L.A. but you won't find too many commies writing songs hoping for Jesus as president. And wait a minute, I thought you guys always claimed that the commies were fascists?

But leave it to Baldy to rely upon labels to simplify the big scary world.

(btw, for those who like alt country and folk, Wilco and Billy Bragg's Guthrie tribute albums, Mermaid Avenue's I and II are absolutely terrific. )

Leave it to kalm to get his panties in a wad over a little joke.

Like most of the ComSymps of that era, Gutherie was mostly A-religious (like me ), but he very much embraced the idealistic view of Jesus' devotion to caring for and uplifting the poor and downtrodden.

Oh BTW...never claimed that Communists were Fascists. However, they are just like identical twins. Except for a few idiosyncrasies, they are the exact same thing.

[UNI88]

Actually T-man posted them first and it was terrific satire given the lyrics of the song.

Guthrie interacted with commies while in L.A. but you won't find too many commies writing songs hoping for Jesus as president. And wait a minute, I thought you guys always claimed that the commies were fascists?

But leave it to Baldy to rely upon labels to simplify the big scary world.

(btw, for those who like alt country and folk, Wilco and Billy Bragg's Guthrie tribute albums, Mermaid Avenue's I and II are absolutely terrific. )

Leave it to kalm to get his panties in a wad over a little joke.

Like most of the ComSymps of that era, Gutherie was mostly A-religious (like me ), but he very much embraced the idealistic view of Jesus' devotion to caring for and uplifting the poor and downtrodden.

Oh BTW...never claimed that Communists were Fascists. However, they are just like identical twins. Except for a few idiosyncrasies, they are the exact same thing.

The spectrum of political ideologies from right to left is not a straight line where the far right and far left are worlds apart; it's a circle where the far right (national socialism) and far left (communism) are right next to each other and "except for a few idiosyncrasies ... the exact same thing."

[kalm]

Leave it to kalm to get his panties in a wad over a little joke.

Like most of the ComSymps of that era, Gutherie was mostly A-religious (like me ), but he very much embraced the idealistic view of Jesus' devotion to caring for and uplifting the poor and downtrodden.

Oh BTW...never claimed that Communists were Fascists. However, they are just like identical twins. Except for a few idiosyncrasies, they are the exact same thing.

The spectrum of political ideologies from right to left is not a straight line where the far right and far left are worlds apart; it's a circle where the far right (national socialism) and far left (communism) are right next to each other and "except for a few idiosyncrasies ... the exact same thing."

The extreme policies of both ideologies lead to the same place.