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Re: Why You Deny Climate Change

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travelinman67 wrote:
kalm wrote:...I still have floaties in my vision and ramble nonsensical liberal rhetoric to this day from the head trauma of hitting the hearth. :twisted:

Nasty shit, that norovirus.
FIFY

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And I can still run circles around proto-conks such as yourself. :kisswink:
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kalm wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
FIFY

:coffee:
:lol:

And I can still run circles around proto-conks such as yourself. :kisswink:
Yep Kalm...

...you're a winner. :thumb:
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Re: Why You Deny Climate Change

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travelinman67 wrote:
kalm wrote:
:lol:

And I can still run circles around proto-conks such as yourself. :kisswink:
Yep Kalm...

...you're a winner. :thumb:
Thanks! :lol:
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Re: Why You Deny Climate Change

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So you could say it's the "Scientific ANTI Industrial Complex?" :mrgreen:
Don't know about complexes. But it is what it is. The section from that IPCC report on foodborne disease is there for all to see and it contains no discussion of foodborne viral diseases; which tend to be more prevalent in colder conditions. I think it's reasonable to say that if someone is considering the net effects of a warming environment on foodborne illness risk and impact, considering both the pluses and the minuses, they would talk about both pathogens that would "like" a warmer environment and pathogens that would not. They mention Vibrio parahaemolyticus illness; which is similar in symptoms and severity to norovirus illness. But it's not nearly as prevalent. You only get it from eating seafood while you can get norovirus illness eating anything. And there's no risk of person to person transmission once a person gets sick with Vibrio parahaemolyticus. Why? Because warmer temperatures are associated with increased Vibrio parahaemolyticus illness risk and decreased norovirus illness risk? I don't think one can be blamed for at least wondering about that.
All three of us were hospitalized until late in the evening. We were told that a Norwalk (layman for norovirus) outbreak had hit the area, especially at Gonzaga where over 60 students had been hospitalized.
It used to be called Norwalk virus. Then the term of art became Norwalk-like virus. Then norovirus. Also now you hear "calicivirus" a lot. Yeah it's very contagious. An ill person excretes billions of particles per day and some people believe even one particle can cause disease. I heard of an outbreak once where someone got hit by norovirus at a bar and went and threw up in the toilet. They flushed the toilet and that caused norovirus to become suspended in the air in aerosols. Then a bunch of people who went into the bathroom got sick. At least that's what they think happened.

One person can get sick from norovirus contaminated food then his whole family gets sick from person to person transmission. Or it can go the other way. A person gets sick from person to person transmission then goes to work in a restaurant or something. Then a bunch of people eat at a buffet and get sick. Then home to get their families sick. On and on.

And it "likes" the cold. Think about it really. In our country when is the season that's most associated with people getting sick? It's the low temperature season. It's probably largely because we're a developed country so that a lot of the bacterial and parasitic diseases that ravage poor tropical and subtropical countries are under control. Viruses are tougher to handle so they're still with us here. And the ones that get us sick here tend to "like" the environment outside of their host organism better when it's cold. Once their in us they're fine with it being warm and cozy. But outside of us they do better in the cold.
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Joe Biden, who somehow was allowed to travel to Paris without medication, said that Obama and France's President Hollande were exactly alike on climate change except for one thing: Hollande said it in French! :rofl: You can't make this shit up, folks.
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