The Gun Economy

[Ibanez]

The legislation bans the sale, transfer, manufacturing and importation of:

All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.

All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.

All semiautomatic rifles and handguns that have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.

157 specifically-named firearms (listed at the end of this document).

The legislation excludes the following weapons from the bill:

Any weapon that is lawfully possessed at the date of the bill’s enactment;

Any firearm manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action;

Assault weapons used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement; and

Antique weapons.
The legislation protects hunting and sporting firearms:

The bill excludes 2,258 legitimate hunting and sporting rifles and shotguns by specific make and model.

The legislation strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and state bans by:

Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test.

(The bill also makes the ban harder to evade by eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test.)

Banning dangerous after-market modifications and work-arounds.

Bump or slide fire stocks, which are modified stocks that enable semi-automatic weapons to fire at rates similar to fully automatic machine guns.

So-called “bullet buttons” that allow the rapid replacement of ammunition magazines, frequently used as a work-around to prohibitions on detachable magazines.

Thumbhole stocks, a type of stock that was created as a work-around to avoid prohibitions on pistol grips.

Adding a ban on the importation of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines.

Eliminating the 10-year sunset that allowed the original federal ban to expire.

The legislation addresses the millions of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines currently in existence by:

Requiring a background check on all sales or transfers of a grandfathered assault weapon.

(This background check can be run through the FBI or, if a state chooses, initiated with a state agency, as with the existing background check system.)

Prohibiting the sale or transfer of large-capacity ammunition feeding devices lawfully possessed on the date of enactment of the bill.

Allowing states and localities to use federal Byrne JAG grant funds to conduct a voluntary buy-back program for grandfathered assault weapons and large-capacity ammunition feeding devices.

Imposing a safe storage requirement for grandfathered firearms, to keep them away from prohibited persons.

Requiring that assault weapons and large-capacity ammunition feeding devices manufactured after the date of the bill’s enactment be engraved with the serial number and date of manufacture of the weapon

Pretty intense.

[Ibanez]

Anyone of you guys have any of the following?

List of Firearms Prohibited by Name

Rifles: All AK types, including the following: AK, AK47, AK47S, AK–74, AKM, AKS, ARM, MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR–47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK–47, VEPR, WASR–10, and WUM, IZHMASH Saiga AK, MAADI AK47 and ARM, Norinco 56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S, Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS; All AR types, including the following: AR–10, AR–15, Armalite M15 22LR Carbine, Armalite M15–T, Barrett REC7, Beretta AR–70, Bushmaster ACR, Bushmaster Carbon 15, Bushmaster MOE series, Bushmaster XM15, Colt Match Target Rifles, DoubleStar AR rifles, DPMS Tactical Rifles, Heckler & Koch MR556, Olympic Arms, Remington R–15 rifles, Rock River Arms LAR–15, Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles, Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles, Stag Arms AR rifles, Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 rifles; Barrett M107A1; Barrett M82A1; Beretta CX4 Storm; Calico Liberty Series; CETME Sporter; Daewoo K–1, K–2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C; Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL, LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000; Feather Industries AT–9; Galil Model AR and Model ARM; Hi-Point Carbine; HK–91, HK–93, HK–94, HK–PSG–1 and HK USC; Kel-Tec Sub–2000, SU–16, and RFB; SIG AMT, SIG PE–57, Sig Sauer SG 550, and Sig Sauer SG 551; Springfield Armory SAR–48; Steyr AUG; Sturm, Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rife M–14/20CF; All Thompson rifles, including the following: Thompson M1SB, Thompson T1100D, Thompson T150D, Thompson T1B, Thompson T1B100D, Thompson T1B50D, Thompson T1BSB, Thompson T1–C, Thompson T1D, Thompson T1SB, Thompson T5, Thompson T5100D, Thompson TM1, Thompson TM1C; UMAREX UZI Rifle; UZI Mini Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine; Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78; Vector Arms UZI Type; Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.

Pistols: All AK–47 types, including the following: Centurion 39 AK pistol, Draco AK–47 pistol, HCR AK–47 pistol, IO Inc. Hellpup AK–47 pistol, Krinkov pistol, Mini Draco AK–47 pistol, Yugo Krebs Krink pistol; All AR–15 types, including the following: American Spirit AR–15 pistol, Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol, DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol, DPMS AR–15 pistol, Olympic Arms AR–15 pistol, Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol; Calico Liberty pistols; DSA SA58 PKP FAL pistol; Encom MP–9 and MP–45; Heckler & Koch model SP-89 pistol; Intratec AB–10, TEC–22 Scorpion, TEC–9, and TEC–DC9; Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol; The following MAC types: MAC–10, MAC–11; Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol; Military Armament Corp. Ingram M–11, Velocity Arms VMAC; Sig Sauer P556 pistol; Sites Spectre; All Thompson types, including the following: Thompson TA510D, Thompson TA5; All UZI types, including: Micro-UZI.

Shotguns: Franchi LAW–12 and SPAS 12; All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the following: IZHMASH Saiga 12, IZHMASH Saiga 12S, IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP–01, IZHMASH Saiga 12K, IZHMASH Saiga 12K–030, IZHMASH Saiga 12K–040 Taktika; Streetsweeper; Striker 12.

Belt-fed semiautomatic firearms: All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms including TNW M2HB.

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[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Yes I have quite a few......and I will continue to either way.

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[93henfan]

Yes I have quite a few......and I will continue to either way.

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, with the exception of the DROID BIONIC

[93henfan]

Prohibiting the sale or transfer of large-capacity ammunition feeding devices lawfully possessed on the date of enactment of the bill.

That little piece right there, buried deep in the bill, is confiscation, deferred to date of death of the owner, plain and simple. The day the bill were passed (it won't be, for now, thankfully), that bit says that if you die and possessed legally purchased 30-round magazines, they cannot be transferred. Not to your kids, your estate, nobody... except the government.

Don't think they wouldn't expand that provision to the firearms themselves as they continue to whittle away at the Constitution in later ban bills.

This is why pro-gun people try to draw the starkest line in the sand we can every time a lib opens their mouth about guns. Like Col Hogan said, the carefully planned strategy of the libs is "death by a thousand paper cuts".

[Col Hogan]

And here is how they B.S. their way into things if you don't watch these Donks...

From the Feinstein law, as posted by Ibanez

"All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm"

If left in the law, and it passes...all Glocks will be banned immediately...because as a test, Glock made a select fire version which qualifies as an automatic firearm under this law...regardless of the fact that you can't buy one...

"The Glock 18 is a selective fire variant of the Glock 17, developed at the request of the Austrian counter-terrorist unit EKO Cobra. This machine pistol-class firearm has a lever-type fire-control selector switch, installed on the serrated portion of the rear left side of the slide. With the selector lever in the bottom position, the pistol will shoot fully automatic, and with the selector lever in the top position, the pistol will fire semi-automatically. The firearm is typically used with an extended 33-round capacity magazine, although other magazines from the Glock 17 will function, with available capacities of 10, 17, or 19 rounds. Early Glock 18 models were ported to reduce muzzle rise during automatic fire. Another compensated variant was produced, known as the Glock 18C. It has a keyhole opening cut into the forward portion of the slide, similar to the opening on the Glock long-slide models, although the Glock 18 has a standard-length slide. The keyhole opening provides an area to allow the four, progressively larger (from back to front) compensator cuts machined into the barrel to vent the propellant gases upwards, affording more control over the rapid-firing machine pistol. The compensator cuts start about halfway back on the top of the barrel. The two rear cuts are narrower than the two front cuts. The slide is hollowed, or dished-out, in a rectangular pattern between the rear of the ejection port and the rear sight. The rate of fire in fully automatic mode is approximately 1,100–1,200 rounds per minute. Most of the other characteristics are equivalent to the Glock 17, although the slide, frame, and certain fire-control parts of the Glock 18 are not interchangeable with other Glock models.[47][48]"

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[Ibanez]

And here is how they B.S. their way into things if you don't watch these Donks...

From the Feinstein law, as posted by Ibanez

"All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm"

If left in the law, and it passes...all Glocks will be banned immediately...because as a test, Glock made a select fire version which qualifies as an automatic firearm under this law...regardless of the fact that you can't buy one...

"The Glock 18 is a selective fire variant of the Glock 17, developed at the request of the Austrian counter-terrorist unit EKO Cobra. This machine pistol-class firearm has a lever-type fire-control selector switch, installed on the serrated portion of the rear left side of the slide. With the selector lever in the bottom position, the pistol will shoot fully automatic, and with the selector lever in the top position, the pistol will fire semi-automatically. The firearm is typically used with an extended 33-round capacity magazine, although other magazines from the Glock 17 will function, with available capacities of 10, 17, or 19 rounds. Early Glock 18 models were ported to reduce muzzle rise during automatic fire. Another compensated variant was produced, known as the Glock 18C. It has a keyhole opening cut into the forward portion of the slide, similar to the opening on the Glock long-slide models, although the Glock 18 has a standard-length slide. The keyhole opening provides an area to allow the four, progressively larger (from back to front) compensator cuts machined into the barrel to vent the propellant gases upwards, affording more control over the rapid-firing machine pistol. The compensator cuts start about halfway back on the top of the barrel. The two rear cuts are narrower than the two front cuts. The slide is hollowed, or dished-out, in a rectangular pattern between the rear of the ejection port and the rear sight. The rate of fire in fully automatic mode is approximately 1,100–1,200 rounds per minute. Most of the other characteristics are equivalent to the Glock 17, although the slide, frame, and certain fire-control parts of the Glock 18 are not interchangeable with other Glock models.[47][48]"

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That's what I thought.

There is now way around it: this bill is unconstitutional.

[AZGrizFan]

I truly doubt that the Dems will bann guns. Baning guns is a job killer. It's a revenue killer.

Blocking the pipeline was a job killer too. Didn't stop 'em did it? Don't be naive, Mark.

[houndawg]

I truly doubt that the Dems will bann guns. Baning guns is a job killer. It's a revenue killer.

This.

It can also be an election killer. There's too much support and $'s behind it.

On a related topic, if gun rights advocates really want see gun related crime go down, they should be for drug legalization. It represents a big chunk of the violence.

After listening to Wayne "Lucky" La Pierre's passionate plea for understanding mental health, I cannot wait for an equally passionate plea from him in favor of legalizing drugs.... ....these clowns would burn their Bibles and fvck their sisters in the town square if they thought it would help their cause.

Stupid conk gunfucks won't even see the drone coming.....

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

This.

It can also be an election killer. There's too much support and $'s behind it.

On a related topic, if gun rights advocates really want see gun related crime go down, they should be for drug legalization. It represents a big chunk of the violence.

After listening to Wayne "Lucky" La Pierre's passionate plea for understanding mental health, I cannot wait for an equally passionate plea from him in favor of legalizing drugs.... ....these clowns would burn their Bibles and fvck their sisters in the town square if they thought it would help their cause.

Stupid conk gunfucks won't even see the drone coming.....

Drone?

Too funny, I can take those out pretty damn easily without firing a shot.

[houndawg]

They'll be way out of your range when they launch....your gun may be the only way they can identify what's left of you.


Or are you going to confuse their nav with your toaster?

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

They'll be way out of your range when they launch....your gun may be the only way they can identify what's left of you.


Or are you going to confuse their nav with your toaster?

If it ever really came to that it would be pretty easy to set up a large low-inductance capacitor bank that would discharged into a 3 meter single-loop antenna that would be targeted at a certain geographical circumference. (50-60 miles) If you need more distance you could use a microwave generator to step up the various frequencies need to take out a drones nav, com etc (TTL or CMOS ) if I wanted to.

It is very simple to achieve the frequency characteristics of the pulse or pulses needed for optimal coupling into an airborne target. I would just build multiple wave-shaping circuits and/or microwave generators then add them in between the pulse source and the antenna. There is a certain microwave tube that possesses specific characteristics that is perfect for just this kind of thing.

Dont think the only thing I am stocking up on is ammo.

[ASUG8]

They'll be way out of your range when they launch....your gun may be the only way they can identify what's left of you.


Or are you going to confuse their nav with your toaster?

If it ever really came to that it would be pretty easy to set up a large low-inductance capacitor bank that would discharged into a 3 meter single-loop antenna that would be targeted at a certain geographical circumference. (50-60 miles) If you need more distance you could use a microwave generator to step up the various frequencies need to take out a drones nav, com etc (TTL or CMOS ) if I wanted to.

It is very simple to achieve the frequency characteristics of the pulse or pulses needed for optimal coupling into an airborne target. I would just build multiple wave-shaping circuits and/or microwave generators then add them in between the pulse source and the antenna. There is a certain microwave tube that possesses specific characteristics that is perfect for just this kind of thing.

Dont think the only thing I am stocking up on is ammo.

Yeah, what he said.

[Ibanez]

I truly doubt that the Dems will bann guns. Baning guns is a job killer. It's a revenue killer.

Blocking the pipeline was a job killer too. Didn't stop 'em did it? Don't be naive, Mark.

You are comparing apples to oranges. A constituional right wasn't at stake. There is a difference in building a pipeline and banning something that is a constitutional right.

[Col Hogan]

Blocking the pipeline was a job killer too. Didn't stop 'em did it? Don't be naive, Mark.

[93henfan]

Blocking the pipeline was a job killer too. Didn't stop 'em did it? Don't be naive, Mark.

[Col Hogan]

[ASUG8]

Good luck trying to find any 9mm right now. I checked locally at a big gun retailer during lunch and they were completely out except for the high dollar home defense rounds ($25 for 20 rounds). A quick Google search of online retailers showed the same thing, and Academy Sports stores locally are completely out. This is truly an unintended national stimulus with all this pending gun control. I'm no prepper but I'll damn sure be buying some more ammo when it becomes available.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Good luck trying to find any 9mm right now. I checked locally at a big gun retailer during lunch and they were completely out except for the high dollar home defense rounds ($25 for 20 rounds). A quick Google search of online retailers showed the same thing, and Academy Sports stores locally are completely out. This is truly an unintended national stimulus with all this pending gun control. I'm no prepper but I'll damn sure be buying some more ammo when it becomes available.

Like I said months ago.......this is the only thing Obama has done in 5 years to stimulate the economy and he did it by accident since he is truly clueless.

[93henfan]

Good luck trying to find any 9mm right now. I checked locally at a big gun retailer during lunch and they were completely out except for the high dollar home defense rounds ($25 for 20 rounds). A quick Google search of online retailers showed the same thing, and Academy Sports stores locally are completely out. This is truly an unintended national stimulus with all this pending gun control. I'm no prepper but I'll damn sure be buying some more ammo when it becomes available.

Check Ammoseek.com and Gun-Deals.com a couple of times a day and you might get lucky and catch what you want in stock. Users report where ammo comes available.

[ASUG8]

Good luck trying to find any 9mm right now. I checked locally at a big gun retailer during lunch and they were completely out except for the high dollar home defense rounds ($25 for 20 rounds). A quick Google search of online retailers showed the same thing, and Academy Sports stores locally are completely out. This is truly an unintended national stimulus with all this pending gun control. I'm no prepper but I'll damn sure be buying some more ammo when it becomes available.

Check Ammoseek.com and Gun-Deals.com a couple of times a day and you might get lucky and catch what you want in stock. Users report where ammo comes available.

[houndawg]

They'll be way out of your range when they launch....your gun may be the only way they can identify what's left of you.


Or are you going to confuse their nav with your toaster?

If it ever really came to that it would be pretty easy to set up a large low-inductance capacitor bank that would discharged into a 3 meter single-loop antenna that would be targeted at a certain geographical circumference. (50-60 miles) If you need more distance you could use a microwave generator to step up the various frequencies need to take out a drones nav, com etc (TTL or CMOS ) if I wanted to.

It is very simple to achieve the frequency characteristics of the pulse or pulses needed for optimal coupling into an airborne target. I would just build multiple wave-shaping circuits and/or microwave generators then add them in between the pulse source and the antenna. There is a certain microwave tube that possesses specific characteristics that is perfect for just this kind of thing.

Dont think the only thing I am stocking up on is ammo.

Good thing I kept my TTL cookbook after school.