How Congress Works

[dbackjon]

Term limits would at least partially solve this problem of spending more time fundraising and campaigning than doing actual work that they were sent there to do. 6 yrs for the Senate- that would mean no re election campaigns for senators. 6-8 years for the House. They could serve their time, then get the f**k out out of their beltway bubble back to reality in the real world with a real job.

And Lobbyists will have even more power than they do now.

[dbackjon]

Rule #1: Nancy, Barbara, and Dianne do whatever they want.

Rule #2: If you don't like that, see Rule #1.

Result: The Congress DOESN'T work....

Do you really understand anything about how government works?

[CitadelGrad]

Most laws aren't even addressed in Congress. The unelected, nameless, faceless bureaucrats in the countless departments, agencies, bureaus, etc. simply make rules that carry the same weight as law.

I think we all understand how government works. That's why it needs to be destroyed.

[kalm]

Most laws aren't even addressed in Congress. The unelected, nameless, faceless bureaucrats in the countless departments, agencies, bureaus, etc. simply make rules that carry the same weight as law.

I think we all understand how government works. That's why it needs to be destroyed.

Yes, and it can be replaced by the amazing guidance and morality of rational self interest. Self interest will pave our streets, inspect our food and drugs for contamination, sign our treaties! Whohooo!

[Baldy]

Most laws aren't even addressed in Congress. The unelected, nameless, faceless bureaucrats in the countless departments, agencies, bureaus, etc. simply make rules that carry the same weight as law.

I think we all understand how government works. That's why it needs to be destroyed.

Yes, and it can be replaced by the amazing guidance and morality of rational self interest. Self interest will pave our streets, inspect our food and drugs for contamination, sign our treaties! Whohooo!

kalm channeling his inner dback Drama Queen.

[kalm]

Yes, and it can be replaced by the amazing guidance and morality of rational self interest. Self interest will pave our streets, inspect our food and drugs for contamination, sign our treaties! Whohooo!

kalm channeling his inner dback Drama Queen.

No, I was laughing at Graddy's queen-like pining about destroying government, hence the .

Here, I found a place for you objectivists to run away too and escape...government!:

THE CITADEL



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Our proud history of Liberty as defined by our Founding Fathers, and
Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes — such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina — or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.

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[GannonFan]

Interesting to sit and watch you defend this goat rope of a process.

The process doesn't work like it does in Schoolhouse Rock. Here in reality there are 435 Congressmen and 100 Senators and no end of citizens (whether organized in groups or individuals) petitioning their government. Thousands and thousands of reports are written, thousands more briefs, and hundreds and hundreds of bills proposed. That's the way it works running a global superpower in the 21st century... you don't get to have an amateur legislature passing laws like we're some condo association that can have a meeting once a quarter and write a few minor bills.

I don't get that last point. Are you implying that we, as voters, really don't have a right to pick the government we want? That amateur legislature is supposed to be what runs the country, or at least that branch of the government. You seem to imply that the bureaucracy is the government and the legislature is just window dressing. I don't think any rational person would disagree that there is and needs to be a pretty substantial bureaucracy of government in order for everything to function, but where you seem to differ from most people is that most people think the legislature should drive the bus as it relates to that branch of government and should make the decisions of how it is done. We have elections for a reason, and it shouldn't be to placate the masses while the unelected parts of government make the decisions.

[Baldy]

kalm channeling his inner dback Drama Queen.

No, I was laughing at Graddy's queen-like pining about destroying government, hence the .

Here, I found a place for you objectivists to run away too and escape...government!:

THE CITADEL



The Citadel is evolving as a planned community where residents are bound together by:

Patriotism
Pride in American Exceptionalism
Our proud history of Liberty as defined by our Founding Fathers, and
Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes — such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina — or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.

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Too far from the beach and too close to Canada.

[HI54UNI]

Term limits would at least partially solve this problem of spending more time fundraising and campaigning than doing actual work that they were sent there to do. 6 yrs for the Senate- that would mean no re election campaigns for senators. 6-8 years for the House. They could serve their time, then get the f**k out out of their beltway bubble back to reality in the real world with a real job.

And Lobbyists will have even more power than they do now.

I don't think that is possible.

[CitadelGrad]

Most laws aren't even addressed in Congress. The unelected, nameless, faceless bureaucrats in the countless departments, agencies, bureaus, etc. simply make rules that carry the same weight as law.

I think we all understand how government works. That's why it needs to be destroyed.

Yes, and it can be replaced by the amazing guidance and morality of rational self interest. Self interest will pave our streets, inspect our food and drugs for contamination, sign our treaties! Whohooo!

Yeah, I'm bent out of shape about paved streets. BTW, when did the federal government start paving streets?

Fucking idiot.

[kalm]

Yes, and it can be replaced by the amazing guidance and morality of rational self interest. Self interest will pave our streets, inspect our food and drugs for contamination, sign our treaties! Whohooo!

Yeah, I'm bent out of shape about paved streets. BTW, when did the federal government start paving streets?

Fucking idiot.

You get the point. Don't back off yours.

[JohnStOnge]

Yeah it's sad but it's "our" fault. I"m talking about The People. We say we don't like the impact of money in politics yet we let ourselves be swayed by it instead of paying attention and having some idea as to the nature of the candidates.

Really. Think about it. When was the last time your vote was determined by a political advertisement? Do you think that, after some baseline for just getting to the point of getting known, the amount of funding a candidate has influences your vote? Was your decision on who you voted for to represent you in the House of Representatives or in the Senate determined by who had more money to advertise?

Your answer is probably "no." Yet every election it's clear that there are people who are influenced by it. And how they vote makes a critical difference.

So The People have nobody to blame but themselves.