The 37 Anti-Sandy Hypocrites

[dbackjon]

67 Republicans voted against the $9 Billion Sandy relief bill.

Conservative talking heads hailed them for being "principaled"

But let's take a closer look...

18 are freshmen, so never have had a disaster in their district to vote on.
12 have never had a disaster in their district.

The other 37??

1. Rep. Dan Benishek (R-MI): Endorsed emergency crop relief assistance after spring freezes.
2. Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN): Asked for disaster relief after flooding.
3. Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL): Promoted relief funds after a tornado.
4. Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA): applauded FEMA flooding relief.
5. Rep. Steve Chabot (R-OH): Asked for disaster relief after storms.
6. Rep. Mike Conaway (R-TX): Asked President George W. Bush to approve disaster relief after storms caused flooding.
7. Rep. Scott DesJarlais (R-TN): Endorsed disaster funding after storms.
8. Rep. Sean Duffy (R-WI): Backed disaster funding after storms.
9. Rep. John Duncan (R-TN): Asked for a disaster declaration after storms caused flooding.
10. Rep. Stephen Fincher (R-TN): Endorsed disaster tax relief and touted available disaster relief funds.
11. Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC): Endorsed President George W. Bush’s disaster declaration and its resulting USDA crop freezing relief.
12. Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX): Pushed for a Bush administration disaster declaration to include more counties after Hurricane Ike.
13. Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA): Endorsed drought relief emergency crop assistance.
14. Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ): Asked the Forest Service for immediate relief after floods.
15. Rep. Sam Graves (R-MO): Begged for a disaster declaration after flooding.
16. Rep. Andy Harris (R-MD): Backed USDA emergency relief during a drought.
17. Rep. Randy Hultgren (R-IL): Requested emergency drought relief from the USDA.
18. Rep. Lynn Jenkins (R-KS): Supported disaster declaration after storms.
19. Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH): Asked for a disaster declaration after storms.
20. Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO): Asked for disaster support amid wildfires.
21. Rep. Kenny Marchant (R-TX): Asked for disaster declaration after Tropical Storm Hermine.
22. Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-SC): Personally took an SBA loan as part of a disaster relief program.
23. Rep. Randy Neugebauer (R-TX): Blasted FEMA for denying a disaster relief request after wildfires and pushed for USDA disaster relief for farmers.
24. Rep. Steven Palazzo (R-MS): Backed emergency funds for Katrina cleanup.
25. Rep. Steve Pearce (R-NM): Pushed the Bush administration to declare a disaster after Hurricane Dolly.
26. Rep. Tom Petri (R-WI): Applauded disaster declaration during a drought.
27. Rep. Mike Pompeo (R-KS): Encouraged constituents to apply for USDA assistance during drought.
28. Rep. Tom Price (R-GA): Called for FEMA disaster relief after tornadoes.
29. Rep. Phil Roe (R-TN): Urged a disaster declaration after tornadoes.
30. Rep. Todd Rokita (R-IN): Backed a request for disaster relief after flooding.
31. Rep. Ed Royce (R-CA): Called for USDA and SBA relief after fires.
32. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI): Backed a disaster declaration after flooding.
33. Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI): Backed disaster relief after flooding.
34. Rep. Marlin Stutzman (R-IN):Backed a request for disaster relief after flooding.
35. Rep. Mac Thornberry (R-TX): Blasted the denial of a disaster declaration amid Texas wildfires.
36. Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC): Endorsed USDA drought relief.
37. Rep. Robert Woodall (R-GA): Requested a disaster declaration from USDA amid drought.

[dbackjon]

So these hypocrits want Federal Money for THEMSELVES, but not for anyone else.

[dbackjon]

24. Rep. Steven Palazzo (R-MS): Backed emergency funds for Katrina cleanup.

We should pull the Federal Government 100% out of his district, since he is so anti-government.

Relocate Stennis Space Center to CA.
Naval Shipyard contracts - Long Beach
NAS - gone.

Billions of dollars supporting his distrcit - pull them all.

[89Hen]

Conservative talking heads hailed them for being "principaled"

And what Liberal talking head did you cut and paste from Jon?

[Rob Iola]

They have no heart...

[CAA Flagship]

That's reckless Jon.

We should be questioning why they voted against it before calling them hypocrites. Maybe there was too much BS included to let it go as is. This is often the case when votes go against certain things that seem "no-brainers". It's certainly possible that the aid requested in their districts was for the general good of the community/nation (Crop relief could qualify I would think).

That being said, I'm still not sure what to think about federal aid for individual homeowners. I'm OK with federal aid for the repair of public infrastructure such as utilities, roads, water and wastewater treatment plants, strip joints, etc., but I'm struggling with the aid to individual homeowners. I just don't know enough about the availability of insurance in these areas to be able to pick a side. But maybe this is a reason they voted against it, or something else similar to that.

[dbackjon]

That's reckless Jon.

We should be questioning why they voted against it before calling them hypocrites. Maybe there was too much BS included to let it go as is. This is often the case when votes go against certain things that seem "no-brainers". It's certainly possible that the aid requested in their districts was for the general good of the community/nation (Crop relief could qualify I would think).

That being said, I'm still not sure what to think about federal aid for individual homeowners. I'm OK with federal aid for the repair of public infrastructure such as utilities, roads, water and wastewater treatment plants, strip joints, etc., but I'm struggling with the aid to individual homeowners. I just don't know enough about the availability of insurance in these areas to be able to pick a side. But maybe this is a reason they voted against it, or something else similar to that.

The 9 Billion was the "stripped down" bill
They all had no problem getting individual aid for THEIR districts - if you look at the lists, it is all availabe to individuals. Why would crop relief be different? That is still an individual item. We are subsidizing the losses, but when they have great harvests, and make millions, then these same people bitch about tax rates and estate taxes.

But to your main point, we do need to reconsider what we consider a Federal disaster - many of the items on the list above are state/local issues. Take Marsha Blackburn's vote for the Nashville floods of a few years ago. Most of damage was houses/buildings built RIGHT ON rivers. Duh, they flood. Yet Tennessee has no laws limiting flood plain building, so they just rebuilt, and continue to build in flood plains.

[89Hen]

They all had no problem getting individual aid for THEIR districts

How novel.

[YoUDeeMan]

Another uselss dback thread villifying Conks for doing what Donks do every day.

[CAA Flagship]

That's reckless Jon.

We should be questioning why they voted against it before calling them hypocrites. Maybe there was too much BS included to let it go as is. This is often the case when votes go against certain things that seem "no-brainers". It's certainly possible that the aid requested in their districts was for the general good of the community/nation (Crop relief could qualify I would think).

That being said, I'm still not sure what to think about federal aid for individual homeowners. I'm OK with federal aid for the repair of public infrastructure such as utilities, roads, water and wastewater treatment plants, strip joints, etc., but I'm struggling with the aid to individual homeowners. I just don't know enough about the availability of insurance in these areas to be able to pick a side. But maybe this is a reason they voted against it, or something else similar to that.

The 9 Billion was the "stripped down" bill
They all had no problem getting individual aid for THEIR districts - if you look at the lists, it is all availabe to individuals. Why would crop relief be different? That is still an individual item. We are subsidizing the losses, but when they have great harvests, and make millions, then these same people bitch about tax rates and estate taxes.

But to your main point, we do need to reconsider what we consider a Federal disaster - many of the items on the list above are state/local issues. Take Marsha Blackburn's vote for the Nashville floods of a few years ago. Most of damage was houses/buildings built RIGHT ON rivers. Duh, they flood. Yet Tennessee has no laws limiting flood plain building, so they just rebuilt, and continue to build in flood plains.

I could be wrong because I don't know much about the farming industry, but it seems that there could be an argument for crop relief. It's not like the farmer is growing the crops for his own consumption only. In many cases the government is counting on them to produce food for the nation. If he goes belly up and moves to Florida, less domestic food is available.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

What is more interesting is the rift this kind of crap is causing in the GOP. The elements still possessed of their sanity are wringing their hands at what the class of 2010 hath wrought. They made a deal with the devil letting the Tea Party inmates run their little asylum.

The part is splitting in to two, perhaps even three factions... and these kinds of stunts only further pull that rift wider. A quick glance at that list tells us something interesting about the GOP:

18 Freshman. Half of this list are part of the Tea Party class - noted by even their own party for their vindictiveness and obstructionism.

With a couple of exceptions - this list is heavily rooted in the old south. From Texas to Virginia. (Exceptions being largely in Wisconsin and Michigan) This exposes a huge problem for the GOP... they are on their way to becoming a regional party it would appear.

What isn't clear is the motivation behind the "no" votes. The two predominant theories: 1. Embarrass Boehner and punish him for stripping the most extreme of their party from committee assignments, or 2. Attack two blue states with acts of political retribution - especially Chris Christie, whom fringe GOPers blame for Romney's getting pounded by Obama in November.

[CAA Flagship]

What isn't clear is the motivation behind the "no" votes. The two predominant theories: 1. Embarrass Boehner and punish him for stripping the most extreme of their party from committee assignments, or 2. Attack two blue states with acts of political retribution - especially Chris Christie, whom fringe GOPers blame for Romney's getting pounded by Obama in November.

Where are these "theories" originating from? Stop talking to the guy taking a shit in the stall next to you at the office restroom.

[ASUMountaineer]

So these hypocrits want Federal Money for THEMSELVES, but not for anyone else.

They sound like typical politicians to me. None in Washington are willing to put nation before reelection.

This is not exclusive to the GOP. See Barney Frank's sudden change of heart in now supporting Chuck Hagel for SoD. Now that he wants to be appointed to Kerry's soon-to-be-vacant Senate seat, he is toeing the President's line. There is no difference between a Dem politician and a GOP politician, except for which constituency they choose to exploit for political gain.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

What isn't clear is the motivation behind the "no" votes. The two predominant theories: 1. Embarrass Boehner and punish him for stripping the most extreme of their party from committee assignments, or 2. Attack two blue states with acts of political retribution - especially Chris Christie, whom fringe GOPers blame for Romney's getting pounded by Obama in November.

Where are these "theories" originating from? Stop talking to the guy taking a shit in the stall next to you at the office restroom.

So your theory would be what exactly spanky?

No votes happen for three reasons generally: Legitimate principled disagreement (not likely in this case), horse-traded votes for something else (also highly unlikely since the majority was going to be overwhelming), or to make an unrelated point/embarrass or politically wound someone.

Given that the "no" votes come almost exclusively from the roster of House members who abstained from voting from Boehner on the first pass of votes for Speaker... it would seem to me that a slap at Boehner was in fact their real intent with the votes.

[YoUDeeMan]

Where are these "theories" originating from? Stop talking to the guy taking a shit in the stall next to you at the office restroom.

So your theory would be what exactly spanky?

No votes happen for three reasons generally: Legitimate principled disagreement (not likely in this case), horse-traded votes for something else (also highly unlikely since the majority was going to be overwhelming), or to make an unrelated point/embarrass or politically wound someone.

Given that the "no" votes come almost exclusively from the roster of House members who abstained from voting from Boehner on the first pass of votes for Speaker... it would seem to me that a slap at Boehner was in fact their real intent with the votes.

How about ficsal responsibility? Or does that not pass through your limited lemming-like mind?

[AZGrizFan]

So your theory would be what exactly spanky?

No votes happen for three reasons generally: Legitimate principled disagreement (not likely in this case), horse-traded votes for something else (also highly unlikely since the majority was going to be overwhelming), or to make an unrelated point/embarrass or politically wound someone.

Given that the "no" votes come almost exclusively from the roster of House members who abstained from voting from Boehner on the first pass of votes for Speaker... it would seem to me that a slap at Boehner was in fact their real intent with the votes.

How about ficsal responsibility? Or does that not pass through your limited lemming-like mind?

Nope.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

So your theory would be what exactly spanky?

No votes happen for three reasons generally: Legitimate principled disagreement (not likely in this case), horse-traded votes for something else (also highly unlikely since the majority was going to be overwhelming), or to make an unrelated point/embarrass or politically wound someone.

Given that the "no" votes come almost exclusively from the roster of House members who abstained from voting from Boehner on the first pass of votes for Speaker... it would seem to me that a slap at Boehner was in fact their real intent with the votes.

How about ficsal responsibility? Or does that not pass through your limited lemming-like mind?

How is it fiscally responsible to deny disaster aid to one area and not another? Either Jon's right, and it's rank hypocrisy if that's the case - or it's a slap at Boehner. There is no "principled conservatism" in this... this was the compromise bill that was frankly underfunded in and of itself. More to the point, while you may find a stray quote or two from these guys saying it was about "fiscal responsibility" - they were pretty much mum as a group about their vote. When a member stands on principle, they rarely are capable of shutting up about it.

[BDKJMU]

How about ficsal responsibility? Or does that not pass through your limited lemming-like mind?

How is it fiscally responsible to deny disaster aid to one area and not another? Either Jon's right, and it's rank hypocrisy if that's the case - or it's a slap at Boehner. There is no "principled conservatism" in this... this was the compromise bill that was frankly underfunded in and of itself. More to the point, while you may find a stray quote or two from these guys saying it was about "fiscal responsibility" - they were pretty much mum as a group about their vote. When a member stands on principle, they rarely are capable of shutting up about it.

How is it fiscally responsible is it to give 9 billion to a program (the fed flood insurance program) that is already 18 billion in the hole? Where is that $$$ going to come from??

[Ibanez]

24. Rep. Steven Palazzo (R-MS): Backed emergency funds for Katrina cleanup.

We should pull the Federal Government 100% out of his district, since he is so anti-government.

Relocate Stennis Space Center to CA.
Naval Shipyard contracts - Long Beach
NAS - gone.

Billions of dollars supporting his distrcit - pull them all.

Why do you have a hardon for California? Why not expand the shipyard in Norfolk (clearly, can't renew Charleston's) and incorporate Stennis into JFK or Houston. Lets save some money while we're at it.

[AZGrizFan]

How is it fiscally responsible to deny disaster aid to one area and not another? Either Jon's right, and it's rank hypocrisy if that's the case - or it's a slap at Boehner. There is no "principled conservatism" in this... this was the compromise bill that was frankly underfunded in and of itself. More to the point, while you may find a stray quote or two from these guys saying it was about "fiscal responsibility" - they were pretty much mum as a group about their vote. When a member stands on principle, they rarely are capable of shutting up about it.

How is it fiscally responsible is it to give 9 billion to a program (the fed flood insurance program) that is already 18 billion in the hole? Where is that $$$ going to come from??

Duh. China.

[CitadelGrad]

How about ficsal responsibility? Or does that not pass through your limited lemming-like mind?

How is it fiscally responsible to deny disaster aid to one area and not another? Either Jon's right, and it's rank hypocrisy if that's the case - or it's a slap at Boehner. There is no "principled conservatism" in this... this was the compromise bill that was frankly underfunded in and of itself. More to the point, while you may find a stray quote or two from these guys saying it was about "fiscal responsibility" - they were pretty much mum as a group about their vote. When a member stands on principle, they rarely are capable of shutting up about it.

Utter fucking bullshit. This is typical of donks. They take a bill, which is ostensibly something everyone can agree on, then load it up with Dem pork. When Republicans vote against it, the Dems don't mention the pork and try to make the Republicans look like people torture puppies.

[CAA Flagship]

How is it fiscally responsible to deny disaster aid to one area and not another? Either Jon's right, and it's rank hypocrisy if that's the case - or it's a slap at Boehner. There is no "principled conservatism" in this... this was the compromise bill that was frankly underfunded in and of itself. More to the point, while you may find a stray quote or two from these guys saying it was about "fiscal responsibility" - they were pretty much mum as a group about their vote. When a member stands on principle, they rarely are capable of shutting up about it.

Utter fucking bullshit. This is typical of donks. They take a bill, which is ostensibly something everyone can agree on, then load it up with Dem pork. When Republicans vote against it, the Dems don't mention the pork and try to make the Republicans look like people torture puppies.

Damnit.
There you go being all factual and shit.

[dbackjon]

How is it fiscally responsible to deny disaster aid to one area and not another? Either Jon's right, and it's rank hypocrisy if that's the case - or it's a slap at Boehner. There is no "principled conservatism" in this... this was the compromise bill that was frankly underfunded in and of itself. More to the point, while you may find a stray quote or two from these guys saying it was about "fiscal responsibility" - they were pretty much mum as a group about their vote. When a member stands on principle, they rarely are capable of shutting up about it.

How is it fiscally responsible is it to give 9 billion to a program (the fed flood insurance program) that is already 18 billion in the hole? Where is that $$$ going to come from??

So it wasn't fiscally irresponsible to tap the same funds earlier, for their constituents?

Where does any money come from? Drop in the bucket compared to the 66 billion wasted on the F-22 pork plane

[dbackjon]

24. Rep. Steven Palazzo (R-MS): Backed emergency funds for Katrina cleanup.

We should pull the Federal Government 100% out of his district, since he is so anti-government.

Relocate Stennis Space Center to CA.
Naval Shipyard contracts - Long Beach
NAS - gone.

Billions of dollars supporting his distrcit - pull them all.

Why do you have a hardon for California? Why not expand the shipyard in Norfolk (clearly, can't renew Charleston's) and incorporate Stennis into JFK or Houston. Lets save some money while we're at it.

Move to blue states, of course, not the welfare red states
Stennis can go to Vandenburg. We can expand shipyards in WA, CA and VA.

[dbackjon]

How is it fiscally responsible to deny disaster aid to one area and not another? Either Jon's right, and it's rank hypocrisy if that's the case - or it's a slap at Boehner. There is no "principled conservatism" in this... this was the compromise bill that was frankly underfunded in and of itself. More to the point, while you may find a stray quote or two from these guys saying it was about "fiscal responsibility" - they were pretty much mum as a group about their vote. When a member stands on principle, they rarely are capable of shutting up about it.

Utter fucking bullshit. This is typical of donks. They take a bill, which is ostensibly something everyone can agree on, then load it up with Dem pork. When Republicans vote against it, the Dems don't mention the pork and try to make the Republicans look like people torture puppies.

The $9 billion WAS a stripped down bill, but that went over your head.

And there is as much, or more REpublcian pork.


And REpublicans do torture puppies. Dems torture kittens. get it right.