Haven't raised beef of any kind ever, actually. We live on 25 acres and we've had a dozen or more friends and neighbors wanting to know when we can start raising grass-fed beef for local consumption.kalm wrote:As opposed to the "dirty beef" you've been raising with hormones and steroids? What business is it of theirs?houndawg wrote:Up on Houndawg Hill we're about to be forced into raising clean beef by our neighbors.
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You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.
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Gotcha...sounds like a promising enterprise.houndawg wrote:Haven't raised beef of any kind ever, actually. We live on 25 acres and we've had a dozen or more friends and neighbors wanting to know when we can start raising grass-fed beef for local consumption.kalm wrote:
As opposed to the "dirty beef" you've been raising with hormones and steroids? What business is it of theirs?
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Of course, because hormones that build muscle tissue will make you obese.D1B wrote:More body fat from ingesting hormone-laden animal protein.Pwns wrote:
That theory has been discredited. Puberty occurs earlier these days in girls because they have more body fat at earlier ages.
That's why you'll se a lot of teenage gymnasts with basically no chests.
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Not to mention that there is no biological need for humans to drink milk once we're past the breastfeeding stage.D1B wrote:Hormones are used on a massive scale to stimulate milk production.danefan wrote:
Chickens aren't hopped up? Some of the chicken breasts that farmers are able to produce seem awfully suspect to me. Not saying its illegal, because I'm sure it's all within the FDA standards, but i'd much rather buy free range organically raised chickens.
Dairy cows eventually end up in feed lots where hormones are spread to other animals and humans via urine, feces then dust. Feed lots have toxic levels of hormones and antibiotics in the dust and consequently in the meat.
The industrial meat complex is an ugly, disgusting business.
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Isn't that a myth? Yes, Vitamin A helps eyesight but isn't the vision/beta carotene link not clearly understood/accepted? I know when I was talking to an eye doctor (the guy with the MD) he told me that there isn't any evidence to prove that B-C actually improves eyesight.Pwns wrote:Or he is just going by science and common sense?Grizalltheway wrote:Probably bought stock in Monsanto.![]()
Tell me, has anyone really demonstrated how modifying rice to produce beta-carotene (so that children in these developing countries don't lose their eyesight from Vitamin A deficiency) is going to destroy the environment? What about modifying corn stalks so that they produce more ears?
Fringe environmentalists have opposed these GMOs with absolutely no real science backing them. And to think they like to paint folks skeptical of environmentalism as "anti-science".
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Why do these girls have more body fat today than when I was growing up in the early 1990's?Pwns wrote:That theory has been discredited. Puberty occurs earlier these days in girls because they have more body fat at earlier ages.CID1990 wrote:I don't know about you fellas, but titties on them 14 year olds are a hell of a lot bigger than they were when I was snappin bras in high school. I blame lunchroom chicken with all the HGH that us pumped into it.
That's why you'll se a lot of teenage gymnasts with basically no chests.
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More environmental propaganda. Why doesn't Monsanto create carrots that grow in the desert?Ibanez wrote:Isn't that a myth? Yes, Vitamin A helps eyesight but isn't the vision/beta carotene link not clearly understood/accepted? I know when I was talking to an eye doctor (the guy with the MD) he told me that there isn't any evidence to prove that B-C actually improves eyesight.Pwns wrote:
Or he is just going by science and common sense?
Tell me, has anyone really demonstrated how modifying rice to produce beta-carotene (so that children in these developing countries don't lose their eyesight from Vitamin A deficiency) is going to destroy the environment? What about modifying corn stalks so that they produce more ears?
Fringe environmentalists have opposed these GMOs with absolutely no real science backing them. And to think they like to paint folks skeptical of environmentalism as "anti-science".
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I've read beta carotene supplements don't work, but as long as you can convert B-C to Vitamin A you're good.Ibanez wrote:Isn't that a myth? Yes, Vitamin A helps eyesight but isn't the vision/beta carotene link not clearly understood/accepted? I know when I was talking to an eye doctor (the guy with the MD) he told me that there isn't any evidence to prove that B-C actually improves eyesight.Pwns wrote:
Or he is just going by science and common sense?
Tell me, has anyone really demonstrated how modifying rice to produce beta-carotene (so that children in these developing countries don't lose their eyesight from Vitamin A deficiency) is going to destroy the environment? What about modifying corn stalks so that they produce more ears?
Fringe environmentalists have opposed these GMOs with absolutely no real science backing them. And to think they like to paint folks skeptical of environmentalism as "anti-science".
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No biological need to drink beer, either.Ibanez wrote:Not to mention that there is no biological need for humans to drink milk once we're past the breastfeeding stage.D1B wrote:
Hormones are used on a massive scale to stimulate milk production.
Dairy cows eventually end up in feed lots where hormones are spread to other animals and humans via urine, feces then dust. Feed lots have toxic levels of hormones and antibiotics in the dust and consequently in the meat.
The industrial meat complex is an ugly, disgusting business.
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I never said there was. And we know the dangers of excess drinking but we don't know about the problems of drinking too much milk.Grizalltheway wrote:No biological need to drink beer, either.Ibanez wrote: Not to mention that there is no biological need for humans to drink milk once we're past the breastfeeding stage.
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Thanks.Pwns wrote:I've read beta carotene supplements don't work, but as long as you can convert B-C to Vitamin A you're good.Ibanez wrote:
Isn't that a myth? Yes, Vitamin A helps eyesight but isn't the vision/beta carotene link not clearly understood/accepted? I know when I was talking to an eye doctor (the guy with the MD) he told me that there isn't any evidence to prove that B-C actually improves eyesight.
Turns out I might be a little gay. 89Hen 11/7/17
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The fertility hormones I'm referring to stimulate milk production and of course breast developement.Pwns wrote:Of course, because hormones that build muscle tissue will make you obese.D1B wrote:
More body fat from ingesting hormone-laden animal protein.



