One-Point Safety

bluehenbillk · Post by **bluehenbillk** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:34 am

OK, let's be honest, had any of you ever heard of this before last night's Fiesta Bowl?

Even the explanation the ref gave started with a disclaimer. Chip Kelly & the announcers never heard of it either.

I wonder how long this has been in the rulebook.

Post by **danefan** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:35 am

I've never heard of it.

Post by **grizzaholic** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:42 am

bluehenbillk wrote:OK, let's be honest, had any of you ever heard of this before last night's Fiesta Bowl?

Even the explanation the ref gave started with a disclaimer. Chip Kelly & the announcers never heard of it either.

I wonder how long this has been in the rulebook.

The announcers said it is the second time in history this has happened.

Post by **Ibanez** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:46 am

I haven't heard of it. That's odd.

Post by **danefan** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:57 am

Goes to show you how many random rules these Ref need to know.

You should see the manuals the DI refs have to study. Its unbelievable how many rules they have, especially when it comes to clock management.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:00 am

Never heard of it, didn't see the game or highlights yet. WTF happened?

Franks Tanks · Post by **Franks Tanks** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:03 am

89Hen wrote:Never heard of it, didn't see the game or highlights yet. WTF happened?

K-State blocked the extra point but the ball did not go into the endzone. A K-State player picked up the ball and ran backward into the endzone. He later pitched the ball to a teamate in the endzone who fumbled/was tacked.

I never heard of the rule. Another article said the one point safety has happened 4 times in college football history, but did not say how long the rule was on the books.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:05 am

Franks Tanks wrote:
89Hen wrote:Never heard of it, didn't see the game or highlights yet. WTF happened?
K-State blocked the extra point but the ball did not go into the endzone. A K-State player picked up the ball and ran backward into the endzone. He later pitched the ball to a teamate in the endzone who fumbled/was tacked.

I never heard of the rule. Another article said the one point safety has happened 4 times in college football history, but did not say how long the rule was on the books.

Interesting. More stupidity by special teams players. I guess it's no coincidence that they are "special" teams.

Post by **Ivytalk** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:22 am

It probably entered the rule books at about the same time as the rule allowing points for the return of a blocked PAT.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:28 am

This opens the door for more questions. Obviously we know from the FU/ASU game that if a team lines up for a 2 point conversion and the other team runs it back, they get two. If a team goes for PAT and it's blocked, can it be run back for 1? Now what about if a team lines up for PAT, fumbles snap, holder runs it in, do they get 2? Team lines up for PAT, fumbles snap, holder runs to 1 yard line, fumbles, defense runs it into the endzone and gets tackled... 1 or 2 point safety?

My head hurts.

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:45 am

I missed the play, but it increases my respect for clenz. As an official in at least one sport (perhaps more), he has to know a TON of stuff, particularly stuff that almost never happens.

Post by **Ivytalk** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:17 am

89Hen wrote:This opens the door for more questions. Obviously we know from the FU/ASU game that if a team lines up for a 2 point conversion and the other team runs it back, they get two. If a team goes for PAT and it's blocked, can it be run back for 1? Now what about if a team lines up for PAT, fumbles snap, holder runs it in, do they get 2? Team lines up for PAT, fumbles snap, holder runs to 1 yard line, fumbles, defense runs it into the endzone and gets tackled... 1 or 2 point safety?

My head hurts.

That would be the rarest of them all: the 6.93-point safety.

Franks Tanks · Post by **Franks Tanks** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:32 am

89Hen wrote:This opens the door for more questions. Obviously we know from the FU/ASU game that if a team lines up for a 2 point conversion and the other team runs it back, they get two. If a team goes for PAT and it's blocked, can it be run back for 1? Now what about if a team lines up for PAT, fumbles snap, holder runs it in, do they get 2? Team lines up for PAT, fumbles snap, holder runs to 1 yard line, fumbles, defense runs it into the endzone and gets tackled... 1 or 2 point safety?

My head hurts.

Wow- I will try

If a team goes for PAT and it's blocked, can it be run back for 1?

Yes the defense can block an extra point and run in back the other way for 2 points.

Now what about if a team lines up for PAT, fumbles snap, holder runs it in, do they get 2?

Yes that is 2 points

Team lines up for PAT, fumbles snap, holder runs to 1 yard line, fumbles, defense runs it into the endzone and gets tackled... 1 or 2 point safety?

I would guess one point safety given that it still occured on an extra point try.

How bout this one. Kicking team goes for extra point. Kick is blocked, and defense runs the ball back. Defender gets ball knocked out of his hands Leon Lett style and the ball is loose in the endzone. Player from kicking team picks ball up and attempts to run out of the endzone but is tackled in endzone. Would that just be a touchback due to the change of possession in the endzone?

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:48 pm

Had no idea about it until last night.

Beef · Post by **Beef** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:44 pm

Thanks to my high school PE teacher, I had heard of it. Thanks Mr. Kerr!

Post by **Ibanez** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:50 pm

Beef wrote:Thanks to my high school PE teacher, I had heard of it. Thanks Mr. Kerr!

That's my last name.

Post by **dbackjon** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:58 pm

Ibanez wrote:
Beef wrote:Thanks to my high school PE teacher, I had heard of it. Thanks Mr. Kerr!
That's my last name.

No it isn't.

It is Bunz.

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:53 pm

So Ibanez played DL for the Redskins?

ROFL.

Post by **Ibanez** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:07 pm

SuperHornet wrote:So Ibanez played DL for the Redskins?

ROFL.

What's it to ya?

Post by **Ibanez** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:07 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Ibanez wrote: That's my last name.

No it isn't.

It is Bunz.

That's my nom de guerre.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:25 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
89Hen wrote:This opens the door for more questions. Obviously we know from the FU/ASU game that if a team lines up for a 2 point conversion and the other team runs it back, they get two. If a team goes for PAT and it's blocked, can it be run back for 1? Now what about if a team lines up for PAT, fumbles snap, holder runs it in, do they get 2? Team lines up for PAT, fumbles snap, holder runs to 1 yard line, fumbles, defense runs it into the endzone and gets tackled... 1 or 2 point safety?

My head hurts.
That would be the rarest of them all: the 6.93-point safety.

Ivytalk for the win!!!

Post by **Ivytalk** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:09 pm

Ibanez wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

No it isn't.

It is Bunz.
That's my nom de guerre.

Speaking French on CS? That means you are a homosexual.

Post by **BlueHen86** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:26 pm

What is the call if:
Team A scores a TD to make it 6-0
Team B blocks the EP kick and returns it 99 yards to the 1 yard line and then fumbles
Team A recovers the fumble at the 1 and then runs into the endzone
Team B tackles the Team A ball carrier.

Is that a 1 point safety for Team B?
Is the score 6-1?
Or is it 2 points for Team B?

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