NRA statement regarding CT shooting

[Baldy]

When the Founding Fathers created the 2nd Amendment having guns in schools and places of business were surely not their intention. These were people that were hunters & were defending their home & country against the English, not using them on or in self-defense from each other.

I've never really had strong feelings either way on the gun debate. I probably sided towards more restrictions but would never actively pursue it.

Newtown changed that for me, as it probably did for millions of Americans. I'm a parent, a parent of two boys of similar ages to those that were senselessly shot multiple times each last Friday. I can't imagine the grief of the parents that were told last week that their child didn't make it out. This isn't the first time this has happened and unfortunately it won't be the last, but we need to do everything in our power I believe as adults, as parents, to protect our children.

I was disgusted when I read the PA grand jury case against Jerry Sandusky and the inaction of the Penn State athletic department & administration over years to stop other children from being molested.

I was disgusted and almost moved to tears when I read the news online last Friday on children, so many children being shot & killed while attending elementary school.

Now is NOT the time to take the course of inaction - the same inaction that we all decried with Penn State - from Mike McQueary, Paterno, Schultz, Curley, Spanier, Corbett, etc that allowed atrocites to continue. There needs to be immediate steps taken to make sure we minimize the chances of this happening again at my kids school, your kids school, or any other public place in America.

What is your solution?

[HI54UNI]

The NRA will be pussies like they always are.........reactive instead of proactive. They will just wait around and take it in the ass like they always do. They need to go on the attack, be offensive and make Congress mandate teacher carry laws in order to teach our kids. We need gun education in ALL public schools and we need it now. We need to educate the young people so they grow up knowing guns are a good thing, they are for protection, and recreation.

The NRA needs to throw the lefts shit right back in their face.

If teen pregnancy is a problem the left wants sex education in schools.
If bullying is a problem the left wants education in school.

So naturally if there is a gun problem in the USA there needs to be education in schools. The left has blood on their hands getting our kids murdered like this and it needs to stop right now.

Demand it
Do not compromise
Do not stop until its done



We owe it to our children.............think of the children

I'm just playing devils advocate here but we often read articles of teachers getting assaulted by their students (and fired if they fight back). What's to stop those students from overpowering 24 yr old Ms. Price, taking the gun killing her and creating a dangerous situation at school?

In many schools here, there are police officers (at least in the more troubled areas). Is an increased police presence at the school at the answer? Instead of arming all the teachers (which will never happen. We can't afford books and paper. How in the hell will we afford guns, bullets and training?!) why not post 1-2 officers who can respond and give them clear rules of engagement.

Rules of Engagement
1) Protect all children, faculty and staff
2) If you have a shot at the assailant, take it.

If we can't afford books and paper how are we going to afford to put 1-2 officers in every school?

[Grizalltheway]

I'm just playing devils advocate here but we often read articles of teachers getting assaulted by their students (and fired if they fight back). What's to stop those students from overpowering 24 yr old Ms. Price, taking the gun killing her and creating a dangerous situation at school?

In many schools here, there are police officers (at least in the more troubled areas). Is an increased police presence at the school at the answer? Instead of arming all the teachers (which will never happen. We can't afford books and paper. How in the hell will we afford guns, bullets and training?!) why not post 1-2 officers who can respond and give them clear rules of engagement.

Rules of Engagement
1) Protect all children, faculty and staff
2) If you have a shot at the assailant, take it.

If we can't afford books and paper how are we going to afford to put 1-2 officers in every school?

Like cleets has said, scrap the K-12 public education system and start over.

[andy7171]

Back in the day we took care of all this shit in-house. All this Anti-Bully stuff has led us down this random shooter violence. Kids knew their role back then. Now days, everyone thinks they are in charge.

[Wedgebuster]

I'm just playing devils advocate here but we often read articles of teachers getting assaulted by their students (and fired if they fight back). What's to stop those students from overpowering 24 yr old Ms. Price, taking the gun killing her and creating a dangerous situation at school?

In many schools here, there are police officers (at least in the more troubled areas). Is an increased police presence at the school at the answer? Instead of arming all the teachers (which will never happen. We can't afford books and paper. How in the hell will we afford guns, bullets and training?!) why not post 1-2 officers who can respond and give them clear rules of engagement.

Rules of Engagement
1) Protect all children, faculty and staff
2) If you have a shot at the assailant, take it.

If we can't afford books and paper how are we going to afford to put 1-2 officers in every school?

Fund it. It is in the interest of National security.

[Gil Dobie]

If we can't afford books and paper how are we going to afford to put 1-2 officers in every school?

Fund it. It is in the interest of National security.

Have a gun tax, similar to the gas tax to supposedly fix highways and bridges, only this tax goes towards protecting schools?

[bluehenbillk]

Fund it. It is in the interest of National security.

Have a gun tax, similar to the gas tax to supposedly fix highways and bridges, only this tax goes towards protecting schools?

Not a bad start, cigarettes get taxed, alcohol gets taxed, an annual fee to own guns on top of an initial purchase tax is one thing. If you're not going to yank the tens or hundreds of thousands of guns out of people's homes that you're going to ban, make them pay a financial price for wanting to keep them.

Again, only a start.

[GannonFan]

Fund it. It is in the interest of National security.

Have a gun tax, similar to the gas tax to supposedly fix highways and bridges, only this tax goes towards protecting schools?

Gee, the gas tax has done so well in fixing the highways and bridges so a gun tax would surely allow for every school to be properly protected.

[bluehenbillk]

Have a gun tax, similar to the gas tax to supposedly fix highways and bridges, only this tax goes towards protecting schools?

Gee, the gas tax has done so well in fixing the highways and bridges so a gun tax would surely allow for every school to be properly protected.

It's not the governments fault, engineers can't build a damn road or bridge that lasts that long, especially in Minnesota...

[Grizalltheway]

Have a gun tax, similar to the gas tax to supposedly fix highways and bridges, only this tax goes towards protecting schools?

Gee, the gas tax has done so well in fixing the highways and bridges so a gun tax would surely allow for every school to be properly protected.

If we actually taxed gas enough to properly maintain our road system and encourage conservation, there would be open revolt in the streets.

[Ibanez]

I'm just playing devils advocate here but we often read articles of teachers getting assaulted by their students (and fired if they fight back). What's to stop those students from overpowering 24 yr old Ms. Price, taking the gun killing her and creating a dangerous situation at school?

In many schools here, there are police officers (at least in the more troubled areas). Is an increased police presence at the school at the answer? Instead of arming all the teachers (which will never happen. We can't afford books and paper. How in the hell will we afford guns, bullets and training?!) why not post 1-2 officers who can respond and give them clear rules of engagement.

Rules of Engagement
1) Protect all children, faculty and staff
2) If you have a shot at the assailant, take it.

If we can't afford books and paper how are we going to afford to put 1-2 officers in every school?

You obviously missed the part in the second paragraph when I said that. Good job, Superhornet.

[GannonFan]

Gee, the gas tax has done so well in fixing the highways and bridges so a gun tax would surely allow for every school to be properly protected.

It's not the governments fault, engineers can't build a damn road or bridge that lasts that long, especially in Minnesota...

If roads and bridges didn't need to be maintained where would all those good paying, middle class jobs be found? If they did build something that never needed maintenance (yeah, we have lots of things that don't need maintenance ) you'd be complaining about that next. As your post shows, the thing we do have in vast abundance in this country is ignorance - we're overloaded in that department.

[Gil Dobie]

Have a gun tax, similar to the gas tax to supposedly fix highways and bridges, only this tax goes towards protecting schools?

Not a bad start, cigarettes get taxed, alcohol gets taxed, an annual fee to own guns on top of an initial purchase tax is one thing. If you're not going to yank the tens or hundreds of thousands of guns out of people's homes that you're going to ban, make them pay a financial price for wanting to keep them.

Again, only a start.

Wouldn't need to over tax, but taxes do get out of hand. Have the school marshall's in the district, rotate thru the schools in the district. It might make the public feel secure, whether they are or not is another question. Might even cut-back the over-paid CEO/Superindents to cover the costs.

[ASUMountaineer]

Disgusting and despicable.

NRA - want to help make sure this doesn't happen again? DISBAND you sick ****.

Oh, you were serious....................................

[HI54UNI]

If we can't afford books and paper how are we going to afford to put 1-2 officers in every school?

You obviously missed the part in the second paragraph when I said that. Good job, Superhornet.

[Grizalltheway]

Back in the day we took care of all this shit in-house. All this Anti-Bully stuff has led us down this random shooter violence. Kids knew their role back then. Now days, everyone thinks they are in charge.

Dumbest comment on this topic so far, and that's saying something considering how much alphie has posted.

[HI54UNI]

This is sounding a lot like the TSA. Where are we going to get the 1-2 officers per school? Are these going to be the security guard rejects like we have with TSA?

It also reminds me of the Simpsons episode where they implement the bear tax.

[Ibanez]

You obviously missed the part in the second paragraph when I said that. Good job, Superhornet.

What? You asked

If we can't afford books and paper how are we going to afford to put 1-2 officers in every school?

Commenting on post in which I said

Instead of arming all the teachers (which will never happen. We can't afford books and paper. How in the hell will we afford guns, bullets and training?!) why not post 1-2 officers

But i'll take a shot at this. Law Enforcement officers aren't paid out of the Education budget. It would require a re-prioritization of funding but it's not totally unrealistic. North Charleston is doing just this, hiring more police officers and putting it into the budget.

This way, instead of arming and training teachers (which is a bad idea) you install a person that is already armed and trained. Increase the public safety budget. This would require a tax hike I'm sure. But hell, if poor old South Carolina can redo miles and miles of roads with a $.01 sales tax increase, surely it's possible to build a fund for extra law enforcement.

[Ibanez]

This is sounding a lot like the TSA. Where are we going to get the 1-2 officers per school? Are these going to be the security guard rejects like we have with TSA?

It also reminds me of the Simpsons episode where they implement the bear tax.

No, utilize what is already in place. Police officers.

What's your solution?

[andy7171]

Back in the day we took care of all this shit in-house. All this Anti-Bully stuff has led us down this random shooter violence. Kids knew their role back then. Now days, everyone thinks they are in charge.

Dumbest comment on this topic so far, and that's saying something considering how much alphie has posted.

Two words for you.

Spoiler: show

SKINNY JEANS

[bluehenbillk]

It's not the governments fault, engineers can't build a damn road or bridge that lasts that long, especially in Minnesota...

If roads and bridges didn't need to be maintained where would all those good paying, middle class jobs be found? If they did build something that never needed maintenance (yeah, we have lots of things that don't need maintenance ) you'd be complaining about that next. As your post shows, the thing we do have in vast abundance in this country is ignorance - we're overloaded in that department.

Way to read into the sarcasm of my post. Someone is a touchy engineer today. I'd forgo those good paying middle class jobs if it meant they'd build the road right the first time & I dodn't have to sit in construction delays...

[andy7171]

Gee, the gas tax has done so well in fixing the highways and bridges so a gun tax would surely allow for every school to be properly protected.

If we actually taxed gas enough to properly maintain our road system and encourage conservation, there would be open revolt in the streets.

...in Montana. Maryland spends a shit ton on transportation and you can tell when you leave the state immediately upon crossing the state line.

[dbackjon]

Back in the day we took care of all this shit in-house. All this Anti-Bully stuff has led us down this random shooter violence. Kids knew their role back then. Now days, everyone thinks they are in charge.

That is almost as stupid as Alphie's posts.

[dbackjon]

Have a gun tax, similar to the gas tax to supposedly fix highways and bridges, only this tax goes towards protecting schools?

Gee, the gas tax has done so well in fixing the highways and bridges so a gun tax would surely allow for every school to be properly protected.

How fucked up would our highways and bridges be if we didn't have a gas tax?

You'd be lucky to be able to drive from DE to Philly in less than a day, unless you took a toll road that cost $100/way.

[GannonFan]

Gee, the gas tax has done so well in fixing the highways and bridges so a gun tax would surely allow for every school to be properly protected.

How **** up would our highways and bridges be if we didn't have a gas tax?

You'd be lucky to be able to drive from DE to Philly in less than a day, unless you took a toll road that cost $100/way.

Settle down, skippy, only making the observation that the current gas tax, through both the amount of it and the propensity of governments to take that tax and spend it on other things, has not been able to adequately fund the highway and bridge system in the US.