Scumbag Obama what a sick Fu*k!

[Ibanez]

No shooting in recent history used an assault weapon...why is this an issue???

What kind of weapon did this kid use? If its not an assault weapon than I'm mistaken on my terminology. I'm no gun expert, but this sure as hell looks like an assault weapon to me.



What is the purpose of the weapons he used? Why does a woman in CT need them? Why does anyone need them?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the guns are responsible. I just don't think our society is responsible enough to have them owned by the public. Too many legally owned guns accessible to mentally unstable people.

According to Nancy's sister, Nancy, who should not have had weapons around a mentally ill child, collected the weapons because she was afraid of the Apocalypse.

[Ibanez]

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Great article written by a mother who has a son with a mental illness.

But our society, with its stigma on mental illness and its broken healthcare system, does not provide us with other options.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

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As usual Texas is just awesome.................such a simple and great idea. All that will result is they wont ever have any shootings in that school.....unless the left pays somebody to go there and do what they do to promote their political agenda.

[mrklean]

You cannot disagree with anything he said.

As the duly elected leader of this country it is his place to say exactly what he said.

Everyone needs to wake the **** up. There is no need for public ownership of assault weapons in this country.

If you're willing to sacrifice lives so you can shoot at some bullseye for fun then move to another country.

And we need to start having a real discussion in this country about mental illness.

1. Yes I can, he and evidently you are wrong.

2. He is NOT a leader, if he was he would be proactive and mandate education/teachers need to obtain certification for shooting handguns. There would be mandatory gun safety classes in all public schools.

3. Nobody has the right to tell me or any other citizen of this country that I cannot own the same guns our military uses, to keep things balanced.

I for one am definitely willing to sacrifice 400-500 hundred people in 30 years so that 300 million are not. oppressed.

This country is going the wrong way and I am not going to stand for this

I hear Iceland is nice this time of year

[bluehenbillk]

All politics aside, I can't imagine a President handling the past 48-72 hours any better.

Some people just find that you can bitch about anything....

[mrklean]

All politics aside, I can't imagine a President handling the past 48-72 hours any better.

Some people just find that you can bitch about anything....

[danefan]

What kind of weapon did this kid use? If its not an assault weapon than I'm mistaken on my terminology. I'm no gun expert, but this sure as hell looks like an assault weapon to me.



What is the purpose of the weapons he used? Why does a woman in CT need them? Why does anyone need them?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the guns are responsible. I just don't think our society is responsible enough to have them owned by the public. Too many legally owned guns accessible to mentally unstable people.

According to Nancy's sister, Nancy, who should not have had weapons around a mentally ill child, collected the weapons because she was afraid of the Apocalypse.

Again, my point, which was lost on the progun lobby around here, is that we have proven time and time again as a society that we are not responsible enough to have free access to deadly weapons.

We cannot identify, treat or control our mentally ill and unstable.

Until we can do so, we should do everything we can to limit access to firearms. If that means that some guy in Montana can't own a Bushmaster .223 then so be it.

[danefan]

All politics aside, I can't imagine a President handling the past 48-72 hours any better.

Some people just find that you can bitch about anything....

Agreed.

[Grizalltheway]

According to Nancy's sister, Nancy, who should not have had weapons around a mentally ill child, collected the weapons because she was afraid of the Apocalypse.

Again, my point, which was lost on the progun lobby around here, is that we have proven time and time again as a society that we are not responsible enough to have free access to deadly weapons.

We cannot identify, treat or control our mentally ill and unstable.

Until we can do so, we should do everything we can to limit access to firearms. If that means that some guy in Montana can't own a Bushmaster .223 then so be it.

If New York or Connecticut want to do that, fine. But "some guy in Montana" clearly isn't the issue at hand here.

[mrklean]

According to Nancy's sister, Nancy, who should not have had weapons around a mentally ill child, collected the weapons because she was afraid of the Apocalypse.

Again, my point, which was lost on the progun lobby around here, is that we have proven time and time again as a society that we are not responsible enough to have free access to deadly weapons.

We cannot identify, treat or control our mentally ill and unstable.

Until we can do so, we should do everything we can to limit access to firearms. If that means that some guy in Montana can't own a Bushmaster .223 then so be it.

Don't take my guns away from me.

[DSUrocks07]

According to Nancy's sister, Nancy, who should not have had weapons around a mentally ill child, collected the weapons because she was afraid of the Apocalypse.

Again, my point, which was lost on the progun lobby around here, is that we have proven time and time again as a society that we are not responsible enough to have free access to deadly weapons.

We cannot identify, treat or control our mentally ill and unstable.

Until we can do so, we should do everything we can to limit access to firearms. If that means that some guy in Montana can't own a Bushmaster .223 then so be it.

Because of one guy in a nation of 350 million people?

[89Hen]

I think it's pretty clear that I'm no Obama fan, but I'm missing the part where he's doing something wrong here.

[DSUrocks07]

I think it's pretty clear that I'm no Obama fan, but I'm missing the part where he's doing something wrong here.

He's not, just your standard partisan ploys going on here. If you dislike Obama then you have to dislike EVERYTHING he does, or else you're a Muslim-Marxist-Despot supporter and you hate America.

[danefan]

Again, my point, which was lost on the progun lobby around here, is that we have proven time and time again as a society that we are not responsible enough to have free access to deadly weapons.

We cannot identify, treat or control our mentally ill and unstable.

Until we can do so, we should do everything we can to limit access to firearms. If that means that some guy in Montana can't own a Bushmaster .223 then so be it.

Because of one guy in a nation of 350 million people?

Its not just one guy. As Cleets says, mass murder is part of our culture now. Are we willing to accept that?

[mrklean]

Because of one guy in a nation of 350 million people?

Its not just one guy. As Cleets says, mass murder is part of our culture now. Are we willing to accept that?

Mass Murder is a Human problem not a gun problem

[kalm]

Alpha has won me over on this one. I reserve the right to buy whatever those crazy fucks into Montana are packing...

[danefan]

Its not just one guy. As Cleets says, mass murder is part of our culture now. Are we willing to accept that?

Mass Murder is a Human problem not a gun problem

I dont disagree. Guns are not responsible. We are not responsible enough for guns either.

[grizzaholic]

According to Nancy's sister, Nancy, who should not have had weapons around a mentally ill child, collected the weapons because she was afraid of the Apocalypse.

Again, my point, which was lost on the progun lobby around here, is that we have proven time and time again as a society that we are not responsible enough to have free access to deadly weapons.

We cannot identify, treat or control our mentally ill and unstable.

Until we can do so, we should do everything we can to limit access to firearms. If that means that some guy in Montana can't own a Bushmaster .223 then so be it.

Really glad you cunty East coast fuck really know what is best for me in Montana. What are the gun laws like in NYC? ANd how much gun violence do you have again?

Don't fucking tell me what is best for me and what isn't.

Just because of some hot button issue you think you know what is best for the rest of lthe RESPONSIBLE gun owners in the country? Tell me again how the shooter got his guns? OH that is right, he killed his mom and STOLE hers. Yup. Don't be talking about things you know nothing about.

[grizzaholic]

Mass Murder is a Human problem not a gun problem

I dont disagree. Guns are not responsible. We are not responsible enough for guns either.

Really glad you know who and who isn't responsible these days.

[grizzaholic]

Again, my point, which was lost on the progun lobby around here, is that we have proven time and time again as a society that we are not responsible enough to have free access to deadly weapons.

We cannot identify, treat or control our mentally ill and unstable.

Until we can do so, we should do everything we can to limit access to firearms. If that means that some guy in Montana can't own a Bushmaster .223 then so be it.

If New York or Connecticut want to do that, fine. But "some guy in Montana" clearly isn't the issue at hand here.

People like him and UNH have ZERO thought process on issues like this.

[CAA Flagship]

What the hell is wrong with everyone here?
Obama, while I am not a fan BTW, never mentioned a ban on guns. He never mentioned a change in any laws related to guns. All he said was that he will do everyting in his power to push laws that will allow us, as a nation, to do a better job for our children.
This could mean a lot of things. Yes, it could mean a change in the gun laws. But that is not what he said.

If you take away guns, then another weapon will be used. What needs to be done is to provide help to the mentally ill. But first we need to identify them. Maybe a first step is to have every person be "analyzed" prior to high school graduation. "At risk" kids can be identified and notification, along with suggestions for help, can be provided to the parents. At least this is an attempt to deal with the root cause. The last opportunity that we have as a society to capture a large percentage of the masses would be as a condition of HS graduation. After that, only driver's license renewals will provide opportunities, but that won't happen. Not sure if this will make a difference or not but if we want to "do better" (Obama's words), identifying and helping the mentally ill is a key priority.

[mrklean]

What the hell is wrong with everyone here?
Obama, while I am not a fan BTW, never mentioned a ban on guns. He never mentioned a change in any laws related to guns. All he said was that he will do everyting in his power to push laws that will allow us, as a nation, to do a better job for our children.
This could mean a lot of things. Yes, it could mean a change in the gun laws. But that is not what he said.

If you take away guns, then another weapon will be used. What needs to be done is to provide help to the mentally ill. But first we need to identify them. Maybe a first step is to have every person be "analyzed" prior to high school graduation. "At risk" kids can be identified and notification, along with suggestions for help, can be provided to the parents. At least this is an attempt to deal with the root cause. The last opportunity that we have as a society to capture a large percentage of the masses would be as a condition of HS graduation. After that, only driver's license renewals will provide opportunities, but that won't happen. Not sure if this will make a difference or not but if we want to "do better" (Obama's words), identifying and helping the mentally ill is a key priority.

The problem is the parents. I know several parents who try to hide their kids mental illness. This is the problem. What parent is willing to say, Hey my child has a mental illness.

[Ibanez]

What the hell is wrong with everyone here?
Obama, while I am not a fan BTW, never mentioned a ban on guns. He never mentioned a change in any laws related to guns. All he said was that he will do everyting in his power to push laws that will allow us, as a nation, to do a better job for our children.
This could mean a lot of things. Yes, it could mean a change in the gun laws. But that is not what he said.

If you take away guns, then another weapon will be used. What needs to be done is to provide help to the mentally ill. But first we need to identify them. Maybe a first step is to have every person be "analyzed" prior to high school graduation. "At risk" kids can be identified and notification, along with suggestions for help, can be provided to the parents. At least this is an attempt to deal with the root cause. The last opportunity that we have as a society to capture a large percentage of the masses would be as a condition of HS graduation. After that, only driver's license renewals will provide opportunities, but that won't happen. Not sure if this will make a difference or not but if we want to "do better" (Obama's words), identifying and helping the mentally ill is a key priority.

Agreed. I don't agree with banning all guns, however what need does a wealthy mom in Connecticut have for a Bushmaster? Mental health has such a stigma in this society.

[YoUDeeMan]

What the hell is wrong with everyone here?
Obama, while I am not a fan BTW, never mentioned a ban on guns. He never mentioned a change in any laws related to guns. All he said was that he will do everyting in his power to push laws that will allow us, as a nation, to do a better job for our children.
This could mean a lot of things. Yes, it could mean a change in the gun laws. But that is not what he said.

Haven't listend to anything on TV...but I want to call in with an opinion that is, as always, correct.

Of course he hasn't said anything specific...he never does until he gets a good read on what will help him politically.

20+ innocent people were killed last week by a madman with some guns. But hey, perhaps that guy decided to count all his victims as "enemy combatants".

Obama has killed FAR more innocent women and children in Pakistan that the creep in Connecticut. We got Osama over a year aog...and yet we are still there supporting, with hundreds of millions of dollars (that could have been used to help children in this country), some corrupt drug lords.

But hey, as long as they aren't our kids dying, right?

[mrklean]

What the hell is wrong with everyone here?
Obama, while I am not a fan BTW, never mentioned a ban on guns. He never mentioned a change in any laws related to guns. All he said was that he will do everyting in his power to push laws that will allow us, as a nation, to do a better job for our children.
This could mean a lot of things. Yes, it could mean a change in the gun laws. But that is not what he said.

If you take away guns, then another weapon will be used. What needs to be done is to provide help to the mentally ill. But first we need to identify them. Maybe a first step is to have every person be "analyzed" prior to high school graduation. "At risk" kids can be identified and notification, along with suggestions for help, can be provided to the parents. At least this is an attempt to deal with the root cause. The last opportunity that we have as a society to capture a large percentage of the masses would be as a condition of HS graduation. After that, only driver's license renewals will provide opportunities, but that won't happen. Not sure if this will make a difference or not but if we want to "do better" (Obama's words), identifying and helping the mentally ill is a key priority.

Agreed. I don't agree with banning all guns, however what need does a wealthy mom in Connecticut have for a Bushmaster? Mental health has such a stigma in this society.

I vote a "HELL NO" to any type of gun ban. If I want to own a AK-47, then I should.