26 Killed (18 Kids) in CT School Massacre

[GannonFan]

All this arguing about guns is just a side-show. China just went through a spate of attacks on elementary schools and deranged lunatics managed to kill children as young as 4 years old with nothing more than hammers, knifes, box cutters, axes, and a cleaver in at least 5 different incidents in the past two years. Deranged people can do heinous things and guns are just one more weapon they can carry. It's no less of a tragedy if a person kills 10 little children with a knife but someone else kills 18 with a gun. Just one kid dying like this is utterly heartbreaking and tragic.

IMO, you have to ask yourself what is it about America that makes this a country where you see more crap like this happen and where, in other areas, we're so reckless as well. Like someone else said, Switzerland has guns up to their ears but you would have to look hard over decades to find something like what just happened today here. On the political/banking front, many developed, industrial, first world countries have found ways to let banks be commercial and investment banks (the whole Glass Steagall controversy) without helping the world usher in a painful recession, yet when we do it here we do a significant part in crapping the world economy.

And it's people from all walks of life, from both sides of the political spectrum (neither Donk or Conk has a monopoly on deranged whackos). What is it about America that we end up fostering such blantant recklessness across so many aspects of society?

[ASUG8]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-D_ZhPc_Os[/youtube]

Obama's response. Clearly pretty broken up about it like most of us are.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Teachers need to be required to take a handgun safety course then be certified to operate and use a handgun proficiently.

If not, get another job.

Our kids need to be protected in the present tense not after the fact like when the cops show up dozens of minutes later when its over.


Education is the key so lets get these PUBLIC SCHOOL teachers leading the way.

Absolutely not. That would place more guns in schools where theoretically, the kids could get them. Plus, when you have a gun, you are obviously more likely to use it and there would definitely be an uptick in school shootings because of teachers having stupid arguments, not getting a raise, or being fired.

Simply place an armed cop in all public schools and that should deter most.

If teen pregnancy is a problem.....the left wants education and sex ed classes to stop it.
If bullying is a problem the left wants education and anti bullying classes in schools to stop it.

So obviously education is the answer, we need all students to be required to attend gun safety classes and shooting classes. Same goes for teachers.

As for your straw man argument "it just puts more guns in schools" good. I hope so and there needs to be UNTIL there is enough evidence from these mythical scenarios you guys dream up about a gun being stolen or a teacher going ballistic.

Until that is proven and not just a stupid scenario drummed up by the left I call bullshit.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

All this arguing about guns is just a side-show. China just went through a spate of attacks on elementary schools and deranged lunatics managed to kill children as young as 4 years old with nothing more than hammers, knifes, box cutters, axes, and a cleaver in at least 5 different incidents in the past two years. Deranged people can do heinous things and guns are just one more weapon they can carry. It's no less of a tragedy if a person kills 10 little children with a knife but someone else kills 18 with a gun. Just one kid dying like this is utterly heartbreaking and tragic.

IMO, you have to ask yourself what is it about America that makes this a country where you see more crap like this happen and where, in other areas, we're so reckless as well. Like someone else said, Switzerland has guns up to their ears but you would have to look hard over decades to find something like what just happened today here. On the political/banking front, many developed, industrial, first world countries have found ways to let banks be commercial and investment banks (the whole Glass Steagall controversy) without helping the world usher in a painful recession, yet when we do it here we do a significant part in crapping the world economy.

And it's people from all walks of life, from both sides of the political spectrum (neither Donk or Conk has a monopoly on deranged whackos). What is it about America that we end up fostering such blantant recklessness across so many aspects of society?

The media....................

[YoUDeeMan]

Shut down already. What did he look like?

post deleted - apparently news media linked the wrong facebook account

Yea, another lawsuit!

Liberal media jumping all over themselves to get the story and place blame...their hatred is dividing and ruining this country.








How was that Cappy?

[YoUDeeMan]

There's nothing to "get" about a psychopath, other than that they have no feelings like the rest of us.

If you can walk into a kindergarten classroom and shoot every precious 5 or 6 year old looking at you frightened, you are not a normal human being. For people like that, I truly hope than hell exists.

Darth Vader took out a whole class of young jedi...and then managed to turn himself around at the end and take out the Dark Lord.

In all seriousness, I have to admit, that scene, where he walked in front of the kids and drew his light saber, disturbed me very much. It was a very dark scene and I actually thought about that scene for a while and what it would take for someone to kill young, defenseless children.

Wonder if this clown saw that scene and, in some way, decided to recreate it.

[YoUDeeMan]

You cannot see it, and it will not tell you, nor are the signs always there, even if you are well versed in mental health.

I find that hard to believe. If you aren't normal, something will show.

Nope.

[bluehenbillk]

There's nothing to "get" about a psychopath, other than that they have no feelings like the rest of us.

If you can walk into a kindergarten classroom and shoot every precious 5 or 6 year old looking at you frightened, you are not a normal human being. For people like that, I truly hope than hell exists.

Darth Vader took out a whole class of young jedi...and then managed to turn himself around at the end and take out the Dark Lord.

In all seriousness, I have to admit, that scene, where he walked in front of the kids and drew his light saber, disturbed me very much. It was a very dark scene and I actually thought about that scene for a while and what it would take for someone to kill young, defenseless children.

Wonder if this clown saw that scene and, in some way, decided to recreate it.

So George Lucas is to blame??

[death dealer]

STOP!!!

18 kids are dead. 18 families are grieving. 18 mothers and fathers will never get to hold their baby again. STOP!!!

CAN'T THIS SHIT AT LEAST WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW!

Can we agree to table this fucking political shit for 24 hours and grieve for these poor children and their parents?

[AZGrizFan]

There's nothing to "get" about a psychopath, other than that they have no feelings like the rest of us.

If you can walk into a kindergarten classroom and shoot every precious 5 or 6 year old looking at you frightened, you are not a normal human being. For people like that, I truly hope than hell exists.

I get it....it doesn't matter how much psych testing, fingerprinting, background checking, etc. you do people like this will still manage to get weapons if they want them badly enough. The local and state governments don't have the resources to do in depth pre-purchase qualifications for people they deem "worthy" of gun ownership. It did spook me at how easily I could buy one in SC - a quick call by the dealer to Columbia to be sure I wasn't a felon, then hand over the cash. The entire transaction took about 8 minutes.

Why does that "spook" you?

[GannonFan]

Darth Vader took out a whole class of young jedi...and then managed to turn himself around at the end and take out the Dark Lord.

In all seriousness, I have to admit, that scene, where he walked in front of the kids and drew his light saber, disturbed me very much. It was a very dark scene and I actually thought about that scene for a while and what it would take for someone to kill young, defenseless children.

Wonder if this clown saw that scene and, in some way, decided to recreate it.

So George Lucas is to blame??

Dude is a scary whacko anymore. And could a light saber be any more phallic? And seriously, to have come up with the idea of "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" you have to be mentally unbalanced.

[BlueHen86]

STOP!!!

18 kids are dead. 18 families are grieving. 18 mothers and fathers will never get to hold their baby again. STOP!!!

CAN'T THIS SHIT AT LEAST WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW!

Can we agree to table this fucking political shit for 24 hours and grieve for these poor children and their parents?

[AZGrizFan]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-D_ZhPc_Os[/youtube]

Obama's response. Clearly pretty broken up about it like most of us are.

He's a great actor.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-D_ZhPc_Os[/youtube]

Obama's response. Clearly pretty broken up about it like most of us are.

He's a great actor.

I know, its sickening.

The fact that people can follow that guy as a leader is truly nauseating. Political posturing at the highest level what kind of sick deranged SOB does that kind of shit?

Embarrassing

I didnt think he could make me like him any less but he always lowers the bar.

[Seahawks08]

If teen pregnancy is a problem.....the left wants education and sex ed classes to stop it.
If bullying is a problem the left wants education and anti bullying classes in schools to stop it.

So obviously education is the answer, we need all students to be required to attend gun safety classes and shooting classes. Same goes for teachers.

As for your straw man argument "it just puts more guns in schools" good. I hope so and there needs to be UNTIL there is enough evidence from these mythical scenarios you guys dream up about a gun being stolen or a teacher going ballistic.

Until that is proven and not just a stupid scenario drummed up by the left I call bullshit.

Okay, let's try it out. Montana, you're first.

[YoUDeeMan]

Darth Vader took out a whole class of young jedi...and then managed to turn himself around at the end and take out the Dark Lord.

In all seriousness, I have to admit, that scene, where he walked in front of the kids and drew his light saber, disturbed me very much. It was a very dark scene and I actually thought about that scene for a while and what it would take for someone to kill young, defenseless children.

Wonder if this clown saw that scene and, in some way, decided to recreate it.

So George Lucas is to blame??

No, not at all. Unless, of course, he is a Lib, in which case he sure as hell led the way down the rabbit hole for this guy.


Back to reality...sort of.

I just thought that scene was very disturbing and it led me to think what it would have taken for me to do such an act. I'm sure I'm not the only one to have tried to figure out the hatred involved in that act, and as a father of a young boy, I could not imagine anything that would allow me to hurt my family or children in any way.

However, after seeing an article about a young Muslin (how am I doing, Cappy) suicide bomber, I then asked myself if I could kill a child that I thought was a threat (in this case, I imagined a young boy with a bomb that was walking into a classroom full of kids) and I answered yes. I would do it to protect other innocent children.

So, one would have to imagine the kids as enemies of some sort. I have no idea about whatever was in the mind of the nut job who shot those kids today, but he had to somehow picture those kids as not being innocent. Surely, there was a mesage being sent...but we may never figure it out.

[death dealer]

Those poor poor parents. My heart is routed in half for them. I hope they have strong families that can wrap them up and protect them from the shit storm that has descended upon them. Holy shit.

[SuperHornet]

So George Lucas is to blame??

Dude is a scary whacko anymore. And could a light saber be any more phallic? And seriously, to have come up with the idea of "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" you have to be mentally unbalanced.

Have you been watching Spaceballs again?

[SuperHornet]

STOP!!!

18 kids are dead. 18 families are grieving. 18 mothers and fathers will never get to hold their baby again. STOP!!!

CAN'T THIS SHIT AT LEAST WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW!

Can we agree to table this fucking political shit for 24 hours and grieve for these poor children and their parents?

There's more than that. There's ALSO the 20 kids and an adult that were offed by a guy wielding a knife at a school in China today. What is this world coming to?

[Seahawks08]

He's a great actor.

Yet another thing he's better than Reagan at.

[Seahawks08]

There's more than that. There's ALSO the 20 kids and an adult that were offed by a guy wielding a knife at a school in China today. What is this world coming to?

If you are referring to your other thread, the article said they were injured not killed.

[DSUrocks07]

He's a great actor.

I know, its sickening.

The fact that people can follow that guy as a leader is truly nauseating. Political posturing at the highest level what kind of sick deranged SOB does that kind of ****?

Embarrassing

I didnt think he could make me like him any less but he always lowers the bar.

Almost as good as this acting job

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAFjDL_vYX4[/youtube]

[BDKJMU]

Exactly.

You just made my point.

It's illegal for Joe Public to own/possess explosives & it's certainly illegal to hijack a plane.

But .223 caliber rifles? How many would you like today sir?

Oh my god you are an idiot when it comes to guns.

[BDKJMU]

That's a pic of a .223 rifle. Google it.

So is this but don't let your blind haterid get in the way.

Exactly. .223 comes in all kinds of forms.

[BDKJMU]

I'm not for making guns illegal - in our lifetimes in this country it'll never happen. You could get a majority in an urban area like NYC, Philly or DC to want that. But it'll never fly in the South, the Midwest & the Western states.

I understand why a person would want a handgun for "personal protection", problem. I understand why a person may wish to have access to guns to shoot at a range or to hunt animals like deer, etc.

I completely disagree with the premise that a non-military or non-law enforcement person be allowed to own or possess "automatic weapons" or "assault rifles".

This is why you are so ill informed. One cannot own an automatic weapon or assualt weapon, pretty much the same thing, without special permits and background checks and yearly checks...being that they are either full auto, or have selector switches for semi/3 round burst.

God damn it pisses me off to no end when one of your ilk or some dummie on the news says assault rifle when it is just a god damned ar 15 or something similar.

Grizzaholic, you can't argue with with the ignorance of people like bilk and the masses who are spoon fed by the equally ignorant media when it comes to these things.