Cal Poly @ SHSU

[kalm]

I still can't believe we out-rushed CP after giving up 400+ against the Griz. The one thing we did very well that game on D was stretch plays outside and use our speed.

Poly has played a better FCS schedule and has quality wins against Wyoming and NAU. I see how everyone is big on SHSU with the margin of victory thing in-conference but I think they are still a bit of an unknown given that the rest of the Southland hasn't really done much outside of the conference.

[slulionsfan]

By nature, triple option offenses will just about always be efficient due to the way passer ratings are calculated ... when option teams throw, it's usually play-action deep, which creates a lot of big plays and quite often for long TDs ... passer ratings put more stock in yards per completion and TDs than completion percentage or how often you throw it ... the key is how many shots CP is able to connect on if Sam is loading up the box and leveraging the run game which they're gonna do ... offensively, Sam is gonna score their points, can CP match them? That's the question.

Cal Poly leads the FCS in passing efficiency @ 176.34. We do not throw a lot, but when we do we are very efficient at it. 18 TDs vs 3 INTs.

[SloStang]

By nature, triple option offenses will just about always be efficient due to the way passer ratings are calculated ... when option teams throw, it's usually play-action deep, which creates a lot of big plays and quite often for long TDs ... passer ratings put more stock in yards per completion and TDs than completion percentage or how often you throw it ... the key is how many shots CP is able to connect on if Sam is loading up the box and leveraging the run game which they're gonna do ... offensively, Sam is gonna score their points, can CP match them? That's the question.

Cal Poly leads the FCS in passing efficiency @ 176.34. We do not throw a lot, but when we do we are very efficient at it. 18 TDs vs 3 INTs.

True, but Cal Poly is the best at doing it of the three big FCS programs that run the triple option.

Cal Poly:
Yards passing: 1,339
Comp. %: 58
TDs: 18
INTs: 3


Georgia Southern:
Yards passing: 677
Comp. %: 45
TDs: 7
INTs: 4


Wofford:
Yards passing: 574
Comp. %: 51
TDs: 6
INTs: 2

[kalm]

By nature, triple option offenses will just about always be efficient due to the way passer ratings are calculated ... when option teams throw, it's usually play-action deep, which creates a lot of big plays and quite often for long TDs ... passer ratings put more stock in yards per completion and TDs than completion percentage or how often you throw it ... the key is how many shots CP is able to connect on if Sam is loading up the box and leveraging the run game which they're gonna do ... offensively, Sam is gonna score their points, can CP match them? That's the question.

True, but Cal Poly is the best at doing it of the three big FCS programs that run the triple option.

Cal Poly:
Yards passing: 1,339
Comp. %: 58
TDs: 18
INTs: 3


Georgia Southern:
Yards passing: 677
Comp. %: 45
TDs: 7
INTs: 4


Wofford:
Yards passing: 574
Comp. %: 51
TDs: 6
INTs: 2

If Broadus had a little more success early on against us it would have opened up the running game.

[CPAlum]

Against some of the worst rushing defenses in the country....

323 vs San Diego ... #35 FCS
325 @ Wyoming .... #110 FBS
336 vs UC Davis .... #70 FCS
321 @ North Dakota..#116 FCS
246 @ Weber State .. #72 FCS
308 vs Northern Colorado.. #74 FCS
341 vs Portland State ...... #24 FCS
387 @ Sacramento State... #49 FCS
251 @ Eastern Washington . #65 FCS
505 vs Idaho State........... #121 FCS
323 @ Northern Arizona .... #38 FCS

12/1/2012 ... Sam Houston State #3 Rush Defense in FCS .

I am not going to sit here and say that Cal-Poly wont get yards running the triple o, but they better have some success throwing the ball because Coach Stoker will stack the line to shut it down. Kat D will not be easy to run against sideline to sideline.

....you say "some of the worst rush defenses in the country", I say they rushed for well over 300 yards in a game on some of the better run defenses in the country. Both statements are true.

Since Sam is the #3 FCS run defense why not post the run offense rankings of their opponents?

I'm guessing Cal Poly's run offense is ranked in the top 10 in the country....

Can't wait for this game

[htownbearkat]

I still can't believe we out-rushed CP after giving up 400+ against the Griz. The one thing we did very well that game on D was stretch plays outside and use our speed.

Poly has played a better FCS schedule and has quality wins against Wyoming and NAU. I see how everyone is big on SHSU with the margin of victory thing in-conference but I think they are still a bit of an unknown given that the rest of the Southland hasn't really done much outside of the conference.

did you copy and paste this from a SHSU 2011 playoff thread?

[kalm]

I still can't believe we out-rushed CP after giving up 400+ against the Griz. The one thing we did very well that game on D was stretch plays outside and use our speed.

Poly has played a better FCS schedule and has quality wins against Wyoming and NAU. I see how everyone is big on SHSU with the margin of victory thing in-conference but I think they are still a bit of an unknown given that the rest of the Southland hasn't really done much outside of the conference.

did you copy and paste this from a SHSU 2011 playoff thread?

No, I was talking about this year. The MVFC and BSC both have multiple wins against FBS and a few quality OOC FCS wins. What were the Southlands quality OOC wins? Did they beat any FBS?

[htownbearkat]

did you copy and paste this from a SHSU 2011 playoff thread?

No, I was talking about this year. The MVFC and BSC both have multiple wins against FBS and a few quality OOC FCS wins. What were the Southlands quality OOC wins? Did they beat any FBS?

i know Mcneese beat middle Tenn and Cent ark beat East Il. My point though is that your argument is the exact same argument made last year and it was proven to be wrong.

[kalm]

No, I was talking about this year. The MVFC and BSC both have multiple wins against FBS and a few quality OOC FCS wins. What were the Southlands quality OOC wins? Did they beat any FBS?

i know Mcneese beat middle Tenn and Cent ark beat East Il. My point though is that your argument is the exact same argument made last year and it was proven to be wrong.

I understood your point and will let your signature OOC wins speak for themselves.

[slulionsfan]

No, I was talking about this year. The MVFC and BSC both have multiple wins against FBS and a few quality OOC FCS wins. What were the Southlands quality OOC wins? Did they beat any FBS?

For the record, McNeese beat Middle Tennessee who is better than either Wyoming, UNLV or Colorado this year ... NW State had a near miss at Nevada but got screwed on an apparent TD that was ruled a fumble in the endzone ... UCA hung tough with Ole Miss and Sam Houston led Baylor for much of that game.

Due to budgets and geography, our league doesn't get many opportunities for high profile non-conference FCS wins because most of our schools schedule multiple FBS to pay the bills and lower level FCS or D-IIs to get home games ... we had a couple of opportunities early against South Dakota State and UT-Martin but we were still trying to find ourselves with a new coaching staff and didn't hit our stride until conference play started ... SFA played Montana State toe to toe on the road before falling late, 43-35 ... McNeese pounded Weber State but Weber had a down year ... UCA handled Eastern Illinois pretty easily last week.

[kalm]

No, I was talking about this year. The MVFC and BSC both have multiple wins against FBS and a few quality OOC FCS wins. What were the Southlands quality OOC wins? Did they beat any FBS?

For the record, McNeese beat Middle Tennessee who is better than either Wyoming, UNLV or Colorado this year ... NW State had a near miss at Nevada but got screwed on an apparent TD that was ruled a fumble in the endzone ... UCA hung tough with Ole Miss and Sam Houston led Baylor for much of that game.

Due to budgets and geography, our league doesn't get many opportunities for high profile non-conference FCS wins because most of our schools schedule multiple FBS to pay the bills and lower level FCS or D-IIs to get home games ... we had a couple of opportunities early against South Dakota State and UT-Martin but we were still trying to find ourselves with a new coaching staff and didn't hit our stride until conference play started ... SFA played Montana State toe to toe on the road before falling late, 43-35 ... McNeese pounded Weber State but Weber had a down year ... UCA handled Eastern Illinois pretty easily last week.

Sorry, I forgot Middle Tennessee State was FBS.

[slulionsfan]

For the record, McNeese beat Middle Tennessee who is better than either Wyoming, UNLV or Colorado this year ... NW State had a near miss at Nevada but got screwed on an apparent TD that was ruled a fumble in the endzone ... UCA hung tough with Ole Miss and Sam Houston led Baylor for much of that game.

Due to budgets and geography, our league doesn't get many opportunities for high profile non-conference FCS wins because most of our schools schedule multiple FBS to pay the bills and lower level FCS or D-IIs to get home games ... we had a couple of opportunities early against South Dakota State and UT-Martin but we were still trying to find ourselves with a new coaching staff and didn't hit our stride until conference play started ... SFA played Montana State toe to toe on the road before falling late, 43-35 ... McNeese pounded Weber State but Weber had a down year ... UCA handled Eastern Illinois pretty easily last week.

Sorry, I forgot Middle Tennessee State was FBS.

I guess that's funny.

[Mvemjsunpx]

Two high-octane rushing teams square off in humid Huntsville for a chance to go to Bozeman (probably). Sam Houston appears to be the more complete & versatile of the two, though, so I like them to win at home. Cal Poly's defense just isn't that great, & I don't think they'll be able to stop SHSU's strange multi-back pistol/flexbone/wildcat hybrid-style offense.

Here's my assessment of the matchups & my pick for the game:

• • • Quarterbacks -- (push)
      
      Running Backs - Cal Poly
      
      Receivers/TEs - Sam Houston St.
      
      Offensive Line - Sam Houston St.
      
      
      Defensive Line - Sam Houston St.
      
      Linebackers --- (push)
      
      Secondary ---- Sam Houston St.
      
      
      Kicking ------ Cal Poly
      
      Punting ------ Sam Houston St.
      
      Return Teams - Sam Houston St.
      
      Kickoffs ------ Cal Poly
      
      
      
      
      
      • Cal Poly 28-42 Sam Houston St.

[SloStang]

Since we are looking at stats, I think the major player in this game will be time of possession. SHSU is #4 in FCS in TOP. Poly cant do their thing if they dont get the ball.

TOP is important, but number of offensive plays per game is also important. Look at teams like Oregon, Oklahoma State and West Virginia. Cal Poly runs a hurry up offense and does not huddle and average almost 80 offensive plays a game. Running a no huddle/hurry up offense puts a lot of pressure on a defense, especially a defense that situationally subs because they can not rotate players in.

Should be fun to see how it all plays out. Go Mustangs, Go Poly!!!

[UNI88]

Question for the Poly and other Big Sky fans - I've heard that Cal Poly runs a hybrid TO offense, can anyone describe it for me or get me a playbook? I coach youth football and like to find schemes that can be applied to kids. Bob got me a copy of the Georgia Southern playbook which was great. I've also studied the TO plays that Oregon runs, they're relatively simple and not as dependent on timing so they should be easier to teach and run. Is Cal Poly's TO similar to Oregon's? I'm hoping to watch the game on ESPN3 on Saturday to pick some things up but I'm not sure if family obligations will get in the way. Any help or feedback is appreciated! Thanks!

[mlbowl]

Sorry, I forgot Middle Tennessee State was FBS.

I guess that's funny.

They lost by 41 to Mississippi St. ...thet's pretty funny

[slulionsfan]

I guess that's funny.

They lost by 41 to Mississippi St. ...thet's pretty funny

MTSU also beat Georgia Tech by three TD's, beating them worse than Clemson did - and scored more points on them than U Georgia.

And BTW, Mississippi State is pretty good and played MTSU at their peak just before going through the Bama/A&M/LSU back-to-back-to-back meat grinder ... no shame in losing to an SEC team, by any margin, unless it's Kentucky.

[SeattleGriz]

Wow. SHSU blocks a Cal Poly punt back into the endzone, only to have two SHSU guys pretty much fight over the football and subsequently knocking the ball out of the back of the endzone for a safety instead of a touchdown.

SHSU 2
Cal Ply 0

13:28 left in 2nd qtr.

[SeattleGriz]

Cal Poly is trying their best to give the game to SHSU by committing stupid turnovers and miscues.

SHSU has done absolutely nothing, but be the recipient of Cal Poly's mistakes.

[CPAlum]

Congratulations SHSU!

[Mvemjsunpx]

Sheesh, did both teams leave their usual unstoppable offenses at home?

[slulionsfan]

Sheesh, did both teams leave their usual unstoppable offenses at home?

Who cares ... it's playoff football. Name of the game is win and move on.

[SloStang]

Congratulations SHSU!

+1

[JohnStOnge]

I think Cal Poly did a decent job of moving the football. 387 yards is not that bad of an output. But they couldn't convert when they got into the red zone. Also they had three turnovers and Sam Houston State didn't have any. Really, when you think about it, if you are -3 in turnover margin plus have a blocked punt and you're even in the game most of the way against a good team you played pretty well otherwise.

Sam Houston State had only 241 yards of offense and had red zone problems as well. But they did manage to get it in once when they got there, they blocked a punt, and they didn't turn the ball over. Not turning the ball over is a pretty good start to winning a competitive game.

And I was not at all impressed with Montana State watching them on line tonight. I think if Sam Houston State looks at video of that game the BearKats have to be optimistic. And of course they know they blew Montana State out last year. This one is a road game while last year's was at home but, still, Montana State did not look good tonight.

[BlackFalkin]

And I was not at all impressed with Montana State watching them on line tonight. I think if Sam Houston State looks at video of that game the BearKats have to be optimistic. And of course they know they blew Montana State out last year. This one is a road game while last year's was at home but, still, Montana State did not look good tonight.

Montana State at home > Sam Houston State. However, big sky teams usually struggle with teams from the southland conf. So..... Who knows! Ill go with The Bobcats