Walter Payton Finalists - Vote Here

[dal4018]

I'am rolling with Heinke and his 4,158 passing yds!!!!

Yeah, for the most part I was joking.

Nice to see you have a sense of humor.

[dal4018]

Sounds like a system QB to me....

So was Joe Montana.

Steve Young,Kurt Wariner,Brett Fave so forth and so on.

[CatBlitz22]

System QB's are ones like Timmy Chang, Graham Harrell, and Colt Brennan.

[rkwittem]

Sounds like a system QB to me....

Any time a college QB makes noise, this is ALWAYS the response from the peanut gallery.

Only Jimmy Garoppolo and Casey Brockman threw the ball more often than Heinicke did (I'm guessing). If you're throwing the ball almost 50 times a game, your numbers will be astronomical. I guess you think the Texas Tech QBs should be perennial Heisman candidates because of how often they throw? Put a standard FCS-level starting QB in that system, and you'll get similar numbers, I bet.
These awards are about more than numbers, pal. And especially if you play in a scheme designed to produce eye-popping numbers. That's why I voted for Maysonet. He had to share the rock all year.

Look, I've never seen the kid play, but knowing what I do about him and ODU's offense, the fact that he is considered seems a little dubious to me. Why not just invite Brockman then? He had a 69% completion rate, 28 TDs, and under 400 yards less than Heinicke. If we're going to use that logic, then invite Brockman.

[BisoNation]

Any time a college QB makes noise, this is ALWAYS the response from the peanut gallery.

Only Jimmy Garoppolo and Casey Brockman threw the ball more often than Heinicke did (I'm guessing). If you're throwing the ball almost 50 times a game, your numbers will be astronomical. I guess you think the Texas Tech QBs should be perennial Heisman candidates because of how often they throw? Put a standard FCS-level starting QB in that system, and you'll get similar numbers, I bet.
These awards are about more than numbers, pal. And especially if you play in a scheme designed to produce eye-popping numbers. That's why I voted for Maysonet. He had to share the rock all year.

Look, I've never seen the kid play, but knowing what I do about him and ODU's offense, the fact that he is considered seems a little dubious to me. Why not just invite Brockman then? He had a 69% completion rate, 28 TDs, and under 400 yards less than Heinicke. If we're going to use that logic, then invite Brockman.

I'm just amazed you're using any logic at all

[CAA Flagship]

Any time a college QB makes noise, this is ALWAYS the response from the peanut gallery.

Only Jimmy Garoppolo and Casey Brockman threw the ball more often than Heinicke did (I'm guessing). If you're throwing the ball almost 50 times a game, your numbers will be astronomical. I guess you think the Texas Tech QBs should be perennial Heisman candidates because of how often they throw? Put a standard FCS-level starting QB in that system, and you'll get similar numbers, I bet.
These awards are about more than numbers, pal. And especially if you play in a scheme designed to produce eye-popping numbers. That's why I voted for Maysonet. He had to share the rock all year.

Look, I've never seen the kid play, but knowing what I do about him and ODU's offense, the fact that he is considered seems a little dubious to me. Why not just invite Brockman then? He had a 69% completion rate, 28 TDs, and under 400 yards less than Heinicke. If we're going to use that logic, then invite Brockman.

Heinicke is unique in that he really does make a lot of plays. He had the 730 yard game in the 4th game of the season and he had a target on him ever since. He has seen 8 and 9 defenders back in coverage and has seen all out blitzes in efforts to stop him. Villanova did a good job slowing him down but most of the credit goes to the Nova offense for keeping the ball so long and keeping the ODU offense on the sidelines.

QB's have an advantage because they can make plays despite things breaking down around them. RB's can't do squat if the blocking is not there. Once they get through the line, ability gains more weight in the success formula. But I don't care who you are. You're not getting yards without the line.

[rkwittem]

Only Jimmy Garoppolo and Casey Brockman threw the ball more often than Heinicke did (I'm guessing). If you're throwing the ball almost 50 times a game, your numbers will be astronomical. I guess you think the Texas Tech QBs should be perennial Heisman candidates because of how often they throw? Put a standard FCS-level starting QB in that system, and you'll get similar numbers, I bet.
These awards are about more than numbers, pal. And especially if you play in a scheme designed to produce eye-popping numbers. That's why I voted for Maysonet. He had to share the rock all year.

Look, I've never seen the kid play, but knowing what I do about him and ODU's offense, the fact that he is considered seems a little dubious to me. Why not just invite Brockman then? He had a 69% completion rate, 28 TDs, and under 400 yards less than Heinicke. If we're going to use that logic, then invite Brockman.

I'm just amazed you're using any logic at all

Ironic that you call me "anti-Bison fans" in another thread, then follow it up with this zinger. Hypocrite much? Practice what you preach.

[93henfan]

System QB's are ones like Timmy Chang, Graham Harrell, and Colt Brennan.

And Joe Montana.

There are good system quarterbacks and bad ones.

I think most of the people on this website are smart enough to know a good QB. Heinicke is the best QB in FCS right now.

I won't miss him.

[rkwittem]

System QB's are ones like Timmy Chang, Graham Harrell, and Colt Brennan.

And Joe Montana.

There are good system quarterbacks and bad ones.

I think most of the people on this website are smart enough to know a good QB. Heinicke is the best QB in FCS right now.

I won't miss him.

I personally feel there is a difference between a system QB like Colt Brennan and a system QB like Joe Montana. Brennan was a product of the system. Montana was good regardless of the system. He could have been excellent in any system. I don't think the same can be said of Brennan and the like. The question here is whether or not Heinicke is a product of the system or in fact a really good player who uses the system to amplify his talent. When I said that he sounds like a system guy, I was basically asking for someone to explain which one he really is.

[93henfan]

And Joe Montana.

There are good system quarterbacks and bad ones.

I think most of the people on this website are smart enough to know a good QB. Heinicke is the best QB in FCS right now.

I won't miss him.

I personally feel there is a difference between a system QB like Colt Brennan and a system QB like Joe Montana. Brennan was a product of the system. Montana was good regardless of the system. He could have been excellent in any system. I don't think the same can be said of Brennan and the like. The question here is whether or not Heinicke is a product of the system or in fact a really good player who uses the system to amplify his talent. When I said that he sounds like a system guy, I was basically asking for someone to explain which one he really is.

Like I said, he's the best in FCS right now, like Montana was the best NFL QB in the 80s.

Cue SuperHornet with some bullshit about Danny White.

[grizzaholic]

I personally feel there is a difference between a system QB like Colt Brennan and a system QB like Joe Montana. Brennan was a product of the system. Montana was good regardless of the system. He could have been excellent in any system. I don't think the same can be said of Brennan and the like. The question here is whether or not Heinicke is a product of the system or in fact a really good player who uses the system to amplify his talent. When I said that he sounds like a system guy, I was basically asking for someone to explain which one he really is.

Like I said, he's the best in FCS right now, like Montana was the best NFL QB in the 80s.

Cue SuperHornet with some bullshit about Danny White.

Danny White was a SOLID number 2.

[∞∞∞]

Heinicke's stats today:

-32/44 for 497 yards, 6 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
-45 rushing yards, 2 touchdowns.

QB rating of 212.61

He's 98 yards away from breaking McNair's FCS single-season record.

[93henfan]

Like I said, he's the best in FCS right now, like Montana was the best NFL QB in the 80s.

Cue SuperHornet with some bullshit about Danny White.

Danny White was a SOLID number 2.

I'm about to go drop a SOLID number 2 in a few minutes...

[93henfan]

Heinicke's stats today:

-32/44 for 497 yards, 6 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
-45 rushing yards, 2 touchdowns.

QB rating of 212.61

He's 98 yards away from breaking McNair's FCS single-season record.

Sounds like a system QB.

[CAA Flagship]

Danny White was a SOLID number 2.

I'm about to go drop a SOLID number 2 in a few minutes...

Everything come out OK?

[93henfan]

I'm about to go drop a SOLID number 2 in a few minutes...

Everything come out OK?

Yeppers. God bless those Quaker oats I enjoyed this morning.

[CAA Flagship]

Everything come out OK?

Yeppers. God bless those Quaker oats I enjoyed this morning.

You banged a Quaker?

[93henfan]

Yeppers. God bless those Quaker oats I enjoyed this morning.

You banged a Quaker?

Those Quaker women never put up a fight. You can pretty much have your way with them. It's better than banging a mute ritard, because they can drive themselves home.

[CAA Flagship]

You banged a Quaker?

Those Quaker women never put up a fight. You can pretty much have your way with them. It's better than banging a mute ritard, because they can drive themselves home.

[Grizalltheway]

You banged a Quaker?

Those Quaker women never put up a fight. You can pretty much have your way with them. It's better than banging a mute ritard, because they can drive themselves home.

Just when I thought the board was starting to stagnate a bit, 93 produces a vintage slam dunk.

[BDKJMU]

Heinicke's stats today:

-32/44 for 497 yards, 6 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
-45 rushing yards, 2 touchdowns.

QB rating of 212.61

He's 98 yards away from breaking McNair's FCS single-season record.

Weren't McNair's playoff numbers not counted?

[MadMaxMonarch]

Heinicke's stats today:

-32/44 for 497 yards, 6 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
-45 rushing yards, 2 touchdowns.

QB rating of 212.61

He's 98 yards away from breaking McNair's FCS single-season record.

Weren't McNair's playoff numbers not counted?

Heinicke actually needs 208 yards to break the record.

[BDKJMU]

Just remember folks, right or wrong, the voting took place BEFORE the playoffs began.

[BDKJMU]

Heineke's stats- see earlier post.

Breitenstein
"Breitenstein, a 5-foot-10, 230-pound fifth-year senior from Valle Crucis, N.C., is the fuel in Wofford's triple option offense. He is the active leader in the FCS with 5,348 rushing yards and 62 touchdowns over his career.

This year, he has surpassed his own single-season school record with 1,653 rushing yards on 244 carries, including 16 touchdowns, and ranks third nationally in rushing yards per game (150.3). His 321 rushing yards against Elon on Sept. 29 set the SoCon single-game record.

Behind Breitenstein, the Terriers (8-3) earned a share of the Southern Conference championship as well as a berth in the FCS playoffs for the third straight season....."

Maysonet
"Maysonet, a 5-10, 210-pound senior from Riverhead, N.Y., has strung together three tremendous seasons at Stony Brook despite sharing carries in the Seawolves' unique rotation, a system which is on pace to have two 1,000-yard backs for the third straight season.

Maysonet led the FCS in rushing yards per game during the regular season - 156.5. Add in Stony Brook's playoff win over Villanova last Saturday and he has totaled 1,881 rushing yards and 2,233 all-purpose yards, and scored 23 touchdowns. All three totals are school and Big South Conference records.

Having transferred to Stony Brook in 2010 after Hofstra dropped its football program, Maysonet has helped the Seawolves win a fourth straight conference title and reach the second round of the playoffs for the second straight season....."
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I have seen Heineke play in person this yr and 4x on TV, and he is very good. The other 2 I've yet to see play on TV (and I won't get to see Maysonet) so I can't say who I'd vote for.

[93henfan]

Heineke's stats- see earlier post.


Breitenstein
"Breitenstein, a 5-foot-10, 230-pound fifth-year senior from Valle Crucis, N.C., is the fuel in Wofford's triple option offense. He is the active leader in the FCS with 5,348 rushing yards and 62 touchdowns over his career.

This year, he has surpassed his own single-season school record with 1,653 rushing yards on 244 carries, including 16 touchdowns, and ranks third nationally in rushing yards per game (150.3). His 321 rushing yards against Elon on Sept. 29 set the SoCon single-game record.

Behind Breitenstein, the Terriers (8-3) earned a share of the Southern Conference championship as well as a berth in the FCS playoffs for the third straight season....."

Maysonet
"Maysonet, a 5-10, 210-pound senior from Riverhead, N.Y., has strung together three tremendous seasons at Stony Brook despite sharing carries in the Seawolves' unique rotation, a system which is on pace to have two 1,000-yard backs for the third straight season.

Maysonet led the FCS in rushing yards per game during the regular season - 156.5. Add in Stony Brook's playoff win over Villanova last Saturday and he has totaled 1,881 rushing yards and 2,233 all-purpose yards, and scored 23 touchdowns. All three totals are school and Big South Conference records.

Having transferred to Stony Brook in 2010 after Hofstra dropped its football program, Maysonet has helped the Seawolves win a fourth straight conference title and reach the second round of the playoffs for the second straight season....."
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Sound like system running backs to me!