CATHOLIC School Janitor Busted For Video Spying at School

[Cap'n Cat]

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CATHOLIC priest in the making???



Defend this one, Joe.

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A chief custodian who was responsible for a southern New Jersey (Catholic) school's video surveillance system resigned from his job after pictures -- some nude -- he allegedly took of students with cameras hidden in the facility were found on his school-issued cellphone.

According to the prosecutor's office in Camden County, N.J., John Martin, 41, admitted that he aimed the hidden pin-hole sized cameras to focus on specific body parts.

In a letter sent to parents Tuesday, Gloucester Catholic Junior/Senior High School Principal John Colman says prosecutors were investigating the former employee after Martin allegedly circulated photos of students.

Tiny cameras allegedly installed around building.
Prosecutors say Martin, who worked for 18 years at the school, ran the maintenance department and high school surveillance system. He admitted to installing hidden video cameras around the building to capture students and teachers -- mostly females, prosecutors said.

"Students used some of those rooms as changing areas and some of the images show nudity," the prosecutor's office said in a press release.

Martin:

"Fuck it. All I gotta do is go to confession."

In a probable cause statement, investigators say that Martin admitted to capturing naked photos on a DVR and then taking still photos of the videos with his cellphone.

The quarter-inch cameras were hidden in ventilation ducts and smoke detectors and placed in eight rooms -- some where students changed -- including classrooms, the choir room, weight room, backstage area, maintenance area and football area.

The Good Parts:
The accusations surprised students and neighbors who say that Martin had a reputation of being a helpful, well-liked person who was always there for the students.

"He was just the go-to guy at Gloucester Catholic," said Student Body president Julia Pedersen. "If you needed anything he was always there for us."
"A nice guy, you wouldn't expect it from him," said a male student.

Kinda like priests........



Let's hear it, Joe!!!

[Gil Dobie]

Question, do you have to be Catholic to be a janitor at a Catholic school?

[GannonFan]

Is the janitor Catholic? I don't think it's a job requirement for a janitor at a Catholic school to also be Catholic. Just saying.

[GannonFan]

Question, do you have to be Catholic to be a janitor at a Catholic school?

Darn, faster typer than I am.

[D1B]

Have to disagree with the Captain of Cats here. That piece of shit shot mostly girls.

Catholic priests for the most part are homosexual men who enjoy fucking the shit out of young boys. This dude is not priest material.

[Baldy]

Blue state.

Donks.
Probably a member of a union, too

[D1B]

Blue state.

Donks.
Probably a member of a union, too

Not if he works for the catholics. They dropped their noble stands for the workers rights decades ago in favor of fostering anti-abortion violence, electioneering, crusades against women and reproductive rights, bigotry against homosexuals and making sure AIDS ravaged regions of the world do not have access to condoms and birth control.

Nice work fuckheads.

[Cap'n Cat]

Have to disagree with the Captain of Cats here. That piece of shit shot mostly girls.

Catholic priests for the most part are homosexual men who enjoy fucking the shit out of young boys. This dude is not priest material.

My bad.

[JoltinJoe]

Is the janitor Catholic? I don't think it's a job requirement for a janitor at a Catholic school to also be Catholic. Just saying.

True.

At my school, the janitor was a "free thinker" who was valedictorian at UNI.

[Cap'n Cat]

Is the janitor Catholic? I don't think it's a job requirement for a janitor at a Catholic school to also be Catholic. Just saying.

True.

At my school, the janitor was a "free thinker" who was valedictorian at UNI.

Oh, I get it!

[D1B]

Is the janitor Catholic? I don't think it's a job requirement for a janitor at a Catholic school to also be Catholic. Just saying.

True.

At my school, the janitor was a "free thinker" who was valedictorian at UNI.

Our assistant equipment manager at UNI was a Fordham pre-law grad. Loved washing our jock straps and underwear. Found out recently he was accused of raping 175 mentally retarded kids suffering from MS at a summer bible camp he started with the jesuits in the 90's. Jesuits paid a lawyer to keep him out of jail and he now lives in Aruba and manages a foundation set up by the Jesuits in his honor.

[Ibanez]

Have to disagree with the Captain of Cats here. That piece of shit shot mostly girls.

Catholic priests for the most part are homosexual men who enjoy fucking the shit out of young boys. This dude is not priest material.

Oh. So he's non-denominational.

[SeattleGriz]

Have to disagree with the Captain of Cats here. That piece of shit shot mostly girls.

Catholic priests for the most part are homosexual men who enjoy fucking the shit out of young boys. This dude is not priest material.

The question I have is, did the Catholic church allow openly gay men to be priests because they were all inclusive, or was it due to pressure from gay community to allow them to be priests?

Maybe I am mixing organizations and stories, but I see how the Boy Scouts are vilified as being homophobic because they won't allow gay men to lead, but then they are assholes for allowing pedophilia to happen.

Trying to figure out if it is a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario with the Catholic church.

[D1B]

Have to disagree with the Captain of Cats here. That piece of shit shot mostly girls.

Catholic priests for the most part are homosexual men who enjoy fucking the shit out of young boys. This dude is not priest material.

The question I have is, did the Catholic church allow openly gay men to be priests because they were all inclusive, or was it due to pressure from gay community to allow them to be priests?

Maybe I am mixing organizations and stories, but I see how the Boy Scouts are vilified as being homophobic because they won't allow gay men to lead, but then they are assholes for allowing pedophilia to happen.

Trying to figure out if it is a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario with the Catholic church.

Neither. Perveted, sick men, gay or not, flocked to the catholic church to gain unfettered access to children, nuns, each other, young seminarians, timid employees, catholic students...you name it.

For centuries, if you wanted rape or torture children for fun, you became a catholic priest.

And if you think that shit aint happening anymore, read this:

11/29/2012* Mercury News

Of all the institutions caught up in child sexual abuse allegations -- public and private schools, the Boy Scouts, the disaster that is Penn State University -- wouldn't you think the Catholic Church by now would know how to deal with it?

Not the Diocese of San Jose. Its handling of an incident with a registered sex offender on an elementary school campus last month is a worst-case example of institutional culture making it all but impossible to restore public trust. Registered pedophile Mark Gurries' volunteer work at the St. Frances Cabrini Parish fiesta and its ugly aftermath is a textbook example of what not to do.

Registered sex offenders are barred from schools, with good reason. But soon after Gurries' release from jail, someone at the diocese gave him a letter of permission to be there. A young woman who knew Gurries' victim recognized him at the Oct. 6 festival and mobilized parents to protest his presence, but the parish priest resisted asking him to leave for hours.

That alone was appalling. Compassion for Gurries should never have trumped the risk to children or the discomfort of members of the school community at the pedophile's presence. But Bishop Patrick J. McGrath quickly could have calmed the waters if he'd spoken openly about the incident from the start. Instead, he issued a brief statement that Gurries' permission was not consistent with diocese policy and would be investigated.

It took six weeks for him to write a full apology -- and even then, he left the origin of the permission letter unclear. A former personnel department employee has taken the fall, but many parents believe there had to be higher authorization and wonder if the problem really is resolved. Some think the parish priest, who has resigned, is another scapegoat. At a community meeting Wednesday night, emotions were as raw as they were at the festival.

Complicating all this are recent lawsuits from former children in the diocese...

Still have your kids in a catholic school? You better check it out.

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[SeattleGriz]

The question I have is, did the Catholic church allow openly gay men to be priests because they were all inclusive, or was it due to pressure from gay community to allow them to be priests?

Maybe I am mixing organizations and stories, but I see how the Boy Scouts are vilified as being homophobic because they won't allow gay men to lead, but then they are assholes for allowing pedophilia to happen.

Trying to figure out if it is a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario with the Catholic church.

Neither. Perveted, sick men, gay or not, flocked to the catholic church to gain unfettered access to children, nuns, each other, young seminarians, timid employees, catholic students...you name it.

For centuries, if you wanted rape or torture children for fun, you became a catholic priest.

I am not Catholic, so I really didn't know. Thanks for the explanation.

[D1B]

Neither. Perveted, sick men, gay or not, flocked to the catholic church to gain unfettered access to children, nuns, each other, young seminarians, timid employees, catholic students...you name it.

For centuries, if you wanted rape or torture children for fun, you became a catholic priest.

I am not Catholic, so I really didn't know. Thanks for the explanation.

The catholic church is a veritable Disneyworld for pedphiles, sadist, criminals and just plain weirdos. It's the only org in the world that will spend millions to defend you even if you raped 200 handicapped children. They silence victims with threats and if that don't work, they just pay em to keep quiet. As a perp, you'll get paid too. Joltin Joe's Cardinal and top Catholic asshole Dolan routinely paid pedophile priests tens of thousands of dollars to disappear and keep quiet.

Timothy Dolan has been curiously silent since the highly damning news that he may have paid pedophile priests in his (former) Milwaukee Archdiocese as much as $20,000 to go away broke on May 31. It's likely that Dolan, his advisors and his apologists are waiting for the reports to die down -- to go away, perhaps in the manner of those Milwaukee priests who abused children.

When the Cardinal finishes being silent, he'll have some explaining to do.

He spoke to the New York Post on June 4 but didn't say much. He didn't deny making the payments, but he described the Times' claim that he had as "groundless", and took a shot at New York City's paper of record. Isn't his admission grounds enough for a reporter to go with the story?

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The catholic church, a holy mess.

[JoltinJoe]

So let me get this straight. You get all up in arms because the canon law process takes too long to adjudicate claims against pedophile priests, so they can be laicized, but when the Church offers them money to waive their due process rights and accept being laicized immediately, that's a bad thing too.

[93henfan]

Everyone has played their role excellently to this point in the thread. Just wanted to give everyone a shout out.

Hootie HOO!!!

PS. Is it just me, or does the janitor look like an "after" picture in a Hair Club for Men commercial?

[Cap'n Cat]

Everyone has played their role excellently to this point in the thread. Just wanted to give everyone a shout out.

Hootie HOO!!!

PS. Is it just me, or does the janitor look like an "after" picture in a Hair Club for Men commercial?

[D1B]

So let me get this straight. You get all up in arms because the canon law process takes too long to adjudicate claims against pedophile priests, so they can be laicized, but when the Church offers them money to waive their due process rights and accept being laicized immediately, that's a bad thing too.

No, Pedophile Protector Joe, your pedophiles need to be aggressively turned in to secular authorities who have stronger moral and ethical principals than the catholic church. They should be turned in with any paperwork related to their rapes, parishes they been transferred to (hidden in) and names of bishops, cardinals and other catholic assholes who helped them avoid justice.

No one gives a fuck about priest being laicized and everyone knows canon law exists to protect the church, not to find the truth or achieve justice.

[JoltinJoe]

The monetary offers were extended to pedophile priests who had already by convicted by secular authorities. But bully for you. Don't ever let the facts get in the way of your God-given right to be stupid.

All you do is consistently prove whatever the Church does, you try to find the worst possible inference for it. And that is true even when other facts PROVE that the inference you seek is false.

[D1B]

The monetary offers were extended to pedophile priests who had already by convicted by secular authorities. But bully for you. Don't ever let the facts get in the way of your God-given right to be stupid.

All you do is consistently prove whatever the Church does, you try to find the worst possible inference for it. And that is true even when other facts PROVE that the inference you seek is false.

Really, only to those convicted? Try "accused", you fucking liar.

Cash bonuses for employees who rape children! You'll find no other org in the world doing this.

Oh, and your top New York Catholic Asshole lied about it:

Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan of New York authorized payments of as much as $20,000 to sexually abusive priests as an incentive for them to agree to dismissal from the priesthood when he was the archbishop of Milwaukee.

Questioned at the time about the news that one particularly notorious pedophile cleric had been given a “payoff” to leave the priesthood, Cardinal Dolan, then the archbishop, responded that such an inference was “false, preposterous and unjust.”

But a document unearthed during bankruptcy proceedings for the Archdiocese of Milwaukee and made public by victims’ advocates reveals that the archdiocese did make such payments to multiple accused priests to encourage them to seek dismissal, thereby allowing the church to remove them from the payroll...

The newly revealed document is the minutes of a meeting of the finance council of the Milwaukee archdiocese from March 7, 2003, which Cardinal Dolan attended. The archdiocese was facing a flood of potential lawsuits by people claiming abuse, and the church’s insurance company was refusing to cover the costs because it said the church had been negligent. The minutes noted that “unassignable priests” — those suspected of abuse — were still receiving full salaries.

The minutes say that those at the meeting discussed a proposal to “offer $20,000 for laicization ($10,000 at the start and $10,000 at the completion the process).” Instead of salary, they would receive a $1,250 monthly pension benefit, and, until they found another job, health insurance.

The first known payment in Milwaukee was to Franklyn Becker, a former priest with many victims. Cardinal Dolan said in response to a reporter’s question at the time that the payment was “an act of charity,” so that Mr. Becker could pay for health insurance.

According to church documents, Mr. Becker was accused of abusing at least 10 minors, and given a diagnosis of pedophilia in 1983. The church paid more than $16 million to settle lawsuits involving him and one other priest.

The Milwaukee Archdiocese filed for bankruptcy in January 2011, in the face of potential lawsuits by 23 accusers.

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The Catholic Church, what a mess.

[JoltinJoe]

So all this bandwith is because the New York Times used the word "accused."

Maybe the NY Times is wrong? It has happened before. Actually, it happens all the time.

[JoltinJoe]

Questioned at the time about the news that one particularly notorious pedophile cleric had been given a “payoff” to leave the priesthood, Cardinal Dolan, then the archbishop, responded that such an inference was “false, preposterous and unjust.”

But a document unearthed during bankruptcy proceedings for the Archdiocese of Milwaukee and made public by victims’ advocates reveals that the archdiocese did make such payments to multiple accused priests to encourage them to seek dismissal, thereby allowing the church to remove them from the payroll...

Let's see if D B is smart enough to catch some sleight of hand by the NY Times.

[D1B]

Lets see if Pedophile Protector Joe can find something wrong with the following:

The minutes say that those at the meeting discussed a proposal to “offer $20,000 for laicization ($10,000 at the start and $10,000 at the completion the process).” Instead of salary, they would receive a $1,250 monthly pension benefit, and, until they found another job, health insurance.

The first known payment in Milwaukee was to Franklyn Becker, a former priest with many victims. Cardinal Dolan said in response to a reporter’s question at the time that the payment was “an act of charity,” so that Mr. Becker could pay for health insurance.

According to church documents, Mr. Becker was accused of abusing at least 10 minors, and given a diagnosis of pedophilia in 1983. The church paid more than $16 million to settle lawsuits involving him and one other priest.

Tim Dolan - Top American Catholic Asshole paid pedophiles bonuses. How fucking shameful.