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Obama and Congress better get their sh** together now.

Yes, all of our taxes are going up but they better start reducing the size of gov....period.
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Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:Obama and Congress better get their sh** together now.

Yes, all of our taxes are going up but they better start reducing the size of gov....period.
This just in:
The Government doesn't reduce the size of The Government
Only one time in our nations history has any president reduced government spending from the previous administration / ONE TIME EVER / and that was a hundred years ago


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all they need to get together about is how long will they kick the can down the curb. Maybe something gets done, but most likely Congress will wait until the noobs come in. :thumb:
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Chizzang wrote:
Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:Obama and Congress better get their sh** together now.

Yes, all of our taxes are going up but they better start reducing the size of gov....period.
This just in:
The Government doesn't reduce the size of The Government


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AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
This just in:
The Government doesn't reduce the size of The Government


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Chizzang wrote:
Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:Obama and Congress better get their sh** together now.

Yes, all of our taxes are going up but they better start reducing the size of gov....period.
This just in:
The Government doesn't reduce the size of The Government
Only one time in our nations history has any president reduced government spending from the previous administration / ONE TIME EVER / and that was a hundred years ago


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Besides the spending in each department, they could eliminate some departments also. So, yes...reduce gov.
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Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
This just in:
The Government doesn't reduce the size of The Government
Only one time in our nations history has any president reduced government spending from the previous administration / ONE TIME EVER / and that was a hundred years ago


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Besides the spending in each department, they could eliminate some departments also. So, yes...reduce gov.
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Sure "They could"
They can all simultaneously resign too



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Chizzang wrote:Sure "They could"
They can all simultaneously resign too



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I just think a 'leaner' more efficient government is better for all of its citizens.
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Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Sure "They could"
They can all simultaneously resign too



:kisswink:

I just think a 'leaner' more efficient government is better for all of its citizens.
I think most people would agree. The problem is that nobody who is currently in governement wants their job to be eliminated as part of the streamlining process.
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We should get rid of the Office of Vice President.

The VP's only job is to replace the most protected man on the planet in case something happens to him, and there are other people in line of succession that can do that.
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BlueHen86 wrote:
Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:

I just think a 'leaner' more efficient government is better for all of its citizens.
I think most people would agree. The problem is that nobody who is currently in governement wants their job to be eliminated as part of the streamlining process.
BINGO..!!!
1) Politics is the business of getting elected into "government"
2) Government is the business of allocating the distribution of collected tax payer funds

And repeat ^

Note:
Government committees and Departments do not ask for less funding
They do not seek less influence and seek less control
they do not disband themselves and willfully diminish their authority
Thus:
Governments do not GET SMALLER without revolution from those who they consent to Govern


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BlueHen86 wrote:We should get rid of the Office of Vice President.

The VP's only job is to replace the most protected man on the planet in case something happens to him, and there are other people in line of succession that can do that.
You have no vision.

Biden isn't going to be voted President, so there is only one way to get him there...and, despite the obvious problems associated with having that become reality, it would be a gift to every comedian and historian to see Biden become President. Can you imagine his visits to other countries?

"Hey, Mukherjee. How many 7-11s do you folks have over here?"

And, we might not have ever had Rooseveldt as President if it weren't for the position of Vice President.

Keep the VP position, but reduce the spending levels for his entourage. :nod:
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Cluck U wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:We should get rid of the Office of Vice President.

The VP's only job is to replace the most protected man on the planet in case something happens to him, and there are other people in line of succession that can do that.
You have no vision.

Biden isn't going to be voted President, so there is only one way to get him there...and, despite the obvious problems associated with having that become reality, it would be a gift to every comedian and historian to see Biden become President. Can you imagine his visits to other countries?

"Hey, Mukherjee. How many 7-11s do you folks have over here?"

And, we might not have ever had Rooseveldt as President if it weren't for the position of Vice President.

Keep the VP position, but reduce the spending levels for his entourage. :nod:
Or, keep the VP position, but have Letterman, Leno, Stewart and Colbert pay his salary.
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Chizzang wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
I think most people would agree. The problem is that nobody who is currently in governement wants their job to be eliminated as part of the streamlining process.
BINGO..!!!
1) Politics is the business of getting elected into "government"
2) Government is the business of allocating the distribution of collected tax payer funds

And repeat ^

Note:
Government committees and Departments do not ask for less funding
They do not seek less influence and seek less control
they do not disband themselves and willfully diminish their authority
Thus:
Governments do not GET SMALLER without revolution from those who they consent to Govern


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Not only that, but if they have money left over at the end of the year, they spend it in order to avoid getting less funding in the next budget.
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BlueHen86 wrote:Or, keep the VP position, but have Letterman, Leno, Stewart and Colbert pay his salary.
See...if everyone looks hard enough and works together, we can always find a solution! :thumb:







Next up...death penalty. :mrgreen:
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BlueHen86 wrote:We should get rid of the Office of Vice President.

The VP's only job is to replace the most protected man on the planet in case something happens to him, and there are other people in line of succession that can do that.
Almost but not quite true. Not quite a swing and a miss, so I'll call it a foul tip. :kisswink:

There is one other duty for the Veep (other than standing there and looking good for the cameras; OK, Biden fails at THAT one, too). The Veep is technically the President of the Senate, and casts tie-breaking votes. It doesn't happen all that often, but would have been huge if the widely speculated tie in the Electoral College a couple of weeks ago had come to fruition. With the House expected to vote Mitt Romney into the White House and a split Senate, who would expect Biden to vote for Ryan as Veep? Can you imagine a guy casting the deciding ballot for HIMSELF? I couldn't blame him, either.

That said, I can't wait for 2016, unless the President finds some way to repeal the 22nd Amendment and get himself elected President for Life. Biden has GOT to know that he stands no chance whatsoever of getting out of the Naval Observatory into the White House, whether a Republican OR a Democrat follows President Obama....
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AZGrizFan wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You laugh but you know that's true...
I laugh BECAUSE I know it's true. :? :?
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SuperHornet wrote: That said, I can't wait for 2016, unless the President finds some way to repeal the 22nd Amendment and get himself elected President for Life. Biden has GOT to know that he stands no chance whatsoever of getting out of the Naval Observatory into the White House, whether a Republican OR a Democrat follows President Obama....
If I hear this internet myth one more time I think I'm going to go postal on someone. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Hey, I'm not saying that it would be feasible, AZ. But he's certainly arrogant enough to at least be THINKING about it....
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SuperHornet wrote:Hey, I'm not saying that it would be feasible, AZ. But he's certainly arrogant enough to at least be THINKING about it....
As a religious person, you sure show zero respect for an authority figure.
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SuperHornet wrote:Hey, I'm not saying that it would be feasible, AZ. But he's certainly arrogant enough to at least be THINKING about it....
As a religious person, you sure show zero respect for an authority figure.
Well, he's showing zero respect for us as well. That cuts both ways, Mark. Also note that I'm not going bonkers like those bogus secessionists.
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As a religious person, you sure show zero respect for an authority figure.
Well, he's showing zero respect for us as well. That cuts both ways, Mark. Also note that I'm not going bonkers like those bogus secessionists.
I didn't vote for him but I disagree. You are upset your Mormon lost. You will s we that he isn't going to destroy the country.

Congress has a greater chance of doing that.
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Ibanez wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:
Well, he's showing zero respect for us as well. That cuts both ways, Mark. Also note that I'm not going bonkers like those bogus secessionists.
I didn't vote for him but I disagree. You are upset your Mormon lost. You will s we that he isn't going to destroy the country.

Congress has a greater chance of doing that.
Don't be fooled, Mark. He's TRYING. Of course, your last sentence is DEFINITELY true. Idiots like Frank, Reid, Feinstein, and Pelosi are doing MUCH more than Obama on THAT score....
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