First Brackets

[SuperHornet]

Yeah, I know it's still way early. But I just couldn't resist. Believe you me, this is about as tough an exercise as I've ever done.

Step 1: Project EVERYONE's final record.
Step 2: Eliminate everyone not at least 7-4. (There will be NO 6-5 wonders in the playoffs THIS year.)
Step 3: Establish 20 preliminary "seeds." (This is for purpose of determining who plays where. Only the top 5 are true seeds.)
Step 4: Adjust for regionalization. (The first try just about ALWAYS gets jacked up because the NCAA regionalizes the playoffs as much as possible.)

I'm basing this on the assumption that Sac wins out, as I'm afraid that if Sac splits their last two (MSU, @ UCD), 7-4 won't get it done even with a B(C)$ win. Even with this proviso, I have Sac on the road for a play-in game. I see no scenario that gives Sac a home game in ANY round this year. There are even 8-3 teams that I have eliminated because they are in inferior conferences.

So here goes:

First Round

Butler (9-2, 8-0 Pioneer) @ TN St (10-1, 6-1 OVC)
Sac St (8-3, 6-2 Big Sky) @ IN St (8-3, 6-2 MVC)
App St (7-4, 5-3 Southern) @ JMU (8-3, 6-2 CAA)
Bethune-Cookman (9-2, 8-0 MEAC) @ Lehigh (11-0, 8-0 Patriot)

Second Round

But/TNSt Winner @ 1 NDSU (10-1, 7-1 MVC)
Stony Brook (10-1, 6-0 Big South) @ EWU (9-2, 7-1 Big Sky)
NAU (9-2, 7-1 Big Sky) @ 5 SHSU (8-3, 6-1 Southland)
Sac/INSt Winner @ 4 Cal Poly (9-2, 7-1 Big Sky)

App/JMU Winner @ 3 GA Southern (9-2, 7-1 CAA)
UCA (9-2, 6-1 Southland) @ Wofford (9-2, 7-1 Southern)
MSU (9-2, 6-2 Big Sky) @ New Hampshire (9-2, 7-1 CAA)
B-C/Lehigh Winner @ 2 ODU (10-1, 7-1 CAA)

Of course, this is all jacked if Sac loses even one more game. I think the rest of these get in no problem(the stupid ones all get auto-bids now that every conference that wants one has one) even if Sac does not. Of course, there would be other shuffling in that case. I know it looks stacked for the Big Sky (5 teams), but when I ran the games in my head, I saw only CP making the Final Four. In this bracket (if it's even close), I see NDSU beating ODU in a 1-vs-2 Final.

[ming01]

butler will not get in. my predictions from each conference:

Big Sky: EWU, MSU, NAU, CP
Big South: Stony Brook
CAA: UNH, ODU, JMU
MEAC: BC
MVC: NDSU, ISUB
NEC: Albany
OVC: UT-Martin, TSU
Patriot: Lehigh
Southern: GSU, Wofford, ASU
Southland: CArk, SHSU

[JohnStOnge]

Just as a point of information because I know other people don't pay attention to what's going on with a team as much as that team's fans do:

If McNeese State wins out the Cowboys will be 8-3, 7-3 against D-I schools, with two wins over FBS schools and two of the three losses by one point each.

I did notice that the Big Sky having so many teams helps that league playoff participation wise and potentially eliminates spots for some teams from other leagues. The top Big Sky teams don't all have to play each other so you don't have as many situations where they play each other and one or the other has to get knocked off. Makes for the same situation the CAA has had at times in the past.

Like right now they've got 5 Big Sky teams in playoff contention but Northern Arizona will finish the season having played only 1 of the other 4 (Cal Poly). Definitely helps that conference in terms of getting more berths.

[BDKJMU]

WAY too early to try to come up with brackets. There a HUNDREDS of possible 20 team playoff brackets based on what happens over the next 3 weeks. Will be a # of upsets every week of teams that now look like playoff teams. I'm expecting 3 give or take in the CAA alone over the next 3 weeks.

After each of the next 2 Saturdays the # of possible fields will get exponentially pared down. By the night of Nov 10 we'll have a decent idea, but even then upsets on the final weekend will change lots of things.

[kalm]

WAY too early to try to come up with brackets. There a HUNDREDS of possible 20 team playoff brackets based on what happens over the next 3 weeks. Will be a # of upsets every week of teams that now look like playoff teams. I'm expecting 3 give or take in the CAA alone over the next 3 weeks.

After each of the next 2 Saturdays the # of possible fields will get exponentially pared down. By the night of Nov 10 we'll have a decent idea, but even then upsets on the final weekend will change lots of things.

Bracketology is fun.

[danefan]

Yeah, I know it's still way early. But I just couldn't resist. Believe you me, this is about as tough an exercise as I've ever done.

Step 1: Project EVERYONE's final record.
Step 2: Eliminate everyone not at least 7-4. (There will be NO 6-5 wonders in the playoffs THIS year.)
Step 3: Establish 20 preliminary "seeds." (This is for purpose of determining who plays where. Only the top 5 are true seeds.)
Step 4: Adjust for regionalization. (The first try just about ALWAYS gets jacked up because the NCAA regionalizes the playoffs as much as possible.)

I'm basing this on the assumption that Sac wins out, as I'm afraid that if Sac splits their last two (MSU, @ UCD), 7-4 won't get it done even with a B(C)$ win. Even with this proviso, I have Sac on the road for a play-in game. I see no scenario that gives Sac a home game in ANY round this year. There are even 8-3 teams that I have eliminated because they are in inferior conferences.

So here goes:

First Round

Butler (9-2, 8-0 Pioneer) @ TN St (10-1, 6-1 OVC)
Sac St (8-3, 6-2 Big Sky) @ IN St (8-3, 6-2 MVC)
App St (7-4, 5-3 Southern) @ JMU (8-3, 6-2 CAA)
Bethune-Cookman (9-2, 8-0 MEAC) @ Lehigh (11-0, 8-0 Patriot)

Second Round

But/TNSt Winner @ 1 NDSU (10-1, 7-1 MVC)
Stony Brook (10-1, 6-0 Big South) @ EWU (9-2, 7-1 Big Sky)
NAU (9-2, 7-1 Big Sky) @ 5 SHSU (8-3, 6-1 Southland)
Sac/INSt Winner @ 4 Cal Poly (9-2, 7-1 Big Sky)

App/JMU Winner @ 3 GA Southern (9-2, 7-1 CAA)
UCA (9-2, 6-1 Southland) @ Wofford (9-2, 7-1 Southern)
MSU (9-2, 6-2 Big Sky) @ New Hampshire (9-2, 7-1 CAA)
B-C/Lehigh Winner @ 2 ODU (10-1, 7-1 CAA)

Of course, this is all jacked if Sac loses even one more game. I think the rest of these get in no problem(the stupid ones all get auto-bids now that every conference that wants one has one) even if Sac does not. Of course, there would be other shuffling in that case. I know it looks stacked for the Big Sky (5 teams), but when I ran the games in my head, I saw only CP making the Final Four. In this bracket (if it's even close), I see NDSU beating ODU in a 1-vs-2 Final.

Butler doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of making the playoffs this year.

And you forgot the NEC AQ.

[BDKJMU]

WAY too early to try to come up with brackets. There a HUNDREDS of possible 20 team playoff brackets based on what happens over the next 3 weeks. Will be a # of upsets every week of teams that now look like playoff teams. I'm expecting 3 give or take in the CAA alone over the next 3 weeks.

After each of the next 2 Saturdays the # of possible fields will get exponentially pared down. By the night of Nov 10 we'll have a decent idea, but even then upsets on the final weekend will change lots of things.

Bracketology is fun.

I know this retarded kid that thinks lots of things are fun.

[kalm]

Bracketology is fun.

I know this retarded kid that thinks lots of things are fun.

You know what's great about SOME retarded kids. They seem to really enjoy many things. When there is something they don't enjoy, they tend to keep it to themselves and simply avoid it. Yep...SOME retarded kids do that.

[JohnStOnge]

I did a quick count of teams with 3 or fewer losses. I started off wanting to see how many 2 and 3 loss teams played each other and how many of them play tough teams but I counted 38 teams in playoff participating conferences with 3 or fewer losses (not counting the Pioneer...I guess they'd participate if they got an at large invite but I don't think they'll get one). So it was just too much.

I did notice that the Big Sky is sitting pretty for getting a large number of teams in due to what I mentioned earlier. Me pulling for McNeese I'm just hoping they can win out and finish 8-3. I feel like they'll have a good shot because right now it looks like the Middle Tennessee State win will look good and if they beat UTSA, while they're technically transitional, they are a member of the WAC and are basically FBS.

Just hacks me off that Central Arkansas converted on 4th and 10 to keep their late TD drive alive to get within 2, then got a 1 in a million bounce on its onside kick, then hit a 47 yard field goal to win by one in regulation because McNeese's kicker missed an extra point earlier in the game. I look at Central Arkansas being ranked in the top 15 and being in such good position and know darn well it was a fluke that they won that game. Pisses me off.

[89Hen]

butler will not get in. my predictions from each conference:

Big Sky: EWU, MSU, NAU, CP
Big South: Stony Brook
CAA: UNH, ODU, JMU
MEAC: BC
MVC: NDSU, ISUB
NEC: Albany
OVC: UT-Martin, TSU
Patriot: Lehigh
Southern: GSU, Wofford, ASU
Southland: CArk, SHSU

Those look pretty good ming, but the fact that there is a good chance the OVC could get two teams in is a joke. They really don't even deserve one.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Yeah, I know it's still way early. But I just couldn't resist. Believe you me, this is about as tough an exercise as I've ever done.

Step 1: Project EVERYONE's final record.
Step 2: Eliminate everyone not at least 7-4. (There will be NO 6-5 wonders in the playoffs THIS year.)
Step 3: Establish 20 preliminary "seeds." (This is for purpose of determining who plays where. Only the top 5 are true seeds.)
Step 4: Adjust for regionalization. (The first try just about ALWAYS gets jacked up because the NCAA regionalizes the playoffs as much as possible.)

I'm basing this on the assumption that Sac wins out, as I'm afraid that if Sac splits their last two (MSU, @ UCD), 7-4 won't get it done even with a B(C)$ win. Even with this proviso, I have Sac on the road for a play-in game. I see no scenario that gives Sac a home game in ANY round this year. There are even 8-3 teams that I have eliminated because they are in inferior conferences.

So here goes:

First Round

Butler (9-2, 8-0 Pioneer) @ TN St (10-1, 6-1 OVC)
Sac St (8-3, 6-2 Big Sky) @ IN St (8-3, 6-2 MVC)
App St (7-4, 5-3 Southern) @ JMU (8-3, 6-2 CAA)
Bethune-Cookman (9-2, 8-0 MEAC) @ Lehigh (11-0, 8-0 Patriot)

Second Round

But/TNSt Winner @ 1 NDSU (10-1, 7-1 MVC)
Stony Brook (10-1, 6-0 Big South) @ EWU (9-2, 7-1 Big Sky)
NAU (9-2, 7-1 Big Sky) @ 5 SHSU (8-3, 6-1 Southland)
Sac/INSt Winner @ 4 Cal Poly (9-2, 7-1 Big Sky)

App/JMU Winner @ 3 GA Southern (9-2, 7-1 CAA)
UCA (9-2, 6-1 Southland) @ Wofford (9-2, 7-1 Southern)
MSU (9-2, 6-2 Big Sky) @ New Hampshire (9-2, 7-1 CAA)
B-C/Lehigh Winner @ 2 ODU (10-1, 7-1 CAA)

Of course, this is all jacked if Sac loses even one more game. I think the rest of these get in no problem(the stupid ones all get auto-bids now that every conference that wants one has one) even if Sac does not. Of course, there would be other shuffling in that case. I know it looks stacked for the Big Sky (5 teams), but when I ran the games in my head, I saw only CP making the Final Four. In this bracket (if it's even close), I see NDSU beating ODU in a 1-vs-2 Final.

Butler doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of making the playoffs any year.

And you forgot the NEC AQ.

FIFY

[danefan]

Butler doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of making the playoffs any year.

And you forgot the NEC AQ.

FIFY

Next year they'll have the AQ.......

[BlueHen86]

Bracketology is fun.

I know this retarded kid that thinks lots of things are fun.

Is his name BDKJMU?

[BlueHen86]

WAY too early to try to come up with brackets. There a HUNDREDS of possible 20 team playoff brackets based on what happens over the next 3 weeks. Will be a # of upsets every week of teams that now look like playoff teams. I'm expecting 3 give or take in the CAA alone over the next 3 weeks.

After each of the next 2 Saturdays the # of possible fields will get exponentially pared down. By the night of Nov 10 we'll have a decent idea, but even then upsets on the final weekend will change lots of things.

Then don't. Nobody asked you to. The journey can be more fun than the destination, speculation and anticipation are part of the journey.

[DSUrocks07]

Delaware State would get an at-large before Butler would.

[BDKJMU]

I know this retarded kid that thinks lots of things are fun.

Is his name BDKJMU?

[BDKJMU]

WAY too early to try to come up with brackets. There a HUNDREDS of possible 20 team playoff brackets based on what happens over the next 3 weeks. Will be a # of upsets every week of teams that now look like playoff teams. I'm expecting 3 give or take in the CAA alone over the next 3 weeks.

After each of the next 2 Saturdays the # of possible fields will get exponentially pared down. By the night of Nov 10 we'll have a decent idea, but even then upsets on the final weekend will change lots of things.

Then don't. Nobody asked you to. The journey can be more fun than the destination, speculation and anticipation are part of the journey.

And nobody asked me not to. Its a GD message board.

[htownbearkat]

I did a quick count of teams with 3 or fewer losses. I started off wanting to see how many 2 and 3 loss teams played each other and how many of them play tough teams but I counted 38 teams in playoff participating conferences with 3 or fewer losses (not counting the Pioneer...I guess they'd participate if they got an at large invite but I don't think they'll get one). So it was just too much.

I did notice that the Big Sky is sitting pretty for getting a large number of teams in due to what I mentioned earlier. Me pulling for McNeese I'm just hoping they can win out and finish 8-3. I feel like they'll have a good shot because right now it looks like the Middle Tennessee State win will look good and if they beat UTSA, while they're technically transitional, they are a member of the WAC and are basically FBS.

Just hacks me off that Central Arkansas converted on 4th and 10 to keep their late TD drive alive to get within 2, then got a 1 in a million bounce on its onside kick, then hit a 47 yard field goal to win by one in regulation because McNeese's kicker missed an extra point earlier in the game. I look at Central Arkansas being ranked in the top 15 and being in such good position and know darn well it was a fluke that they won that game. Pisses me off.

Yes, beating the bears would of been great for both our schools. not sure how our boys blew our game against them either. The Pokes win over the Jacks did help clear up the SLC picture a bit though.

[SuperHornet]

Was I a year early for everyone and his brother (except Ivy and SWAC) getting auto-bids?

Yes, I missed the NEC AQ; yes, I had Albany at 10-1, 8-0. They would replace Butler (whom I had in as Pioneer AQ) if I'm a year early. I'd have to re-work the whole thing if THIS is the year everyone gets it.

I guess I cut my Southland prognostication too soon. With McNeese's remaining schedule (@ Nicholls, @ UTSA, LAMAR), I could EASILY see them winning out, and they MIGHT even get FBS credit for the can they're going to open on UTSA. So Albany probably wipes out Butler. The thing is, I see an 8-3 McNeese losing out on a bid to an 8-3 Sac because as bad as CO is, they're a whole lot better than UTSA, and Sac did not demean themselves by playing a D-II (McNeese played McMurry). Sac would probably be the last 8-3 team in; I don't see a 7-4 Sac getting in at all despite the presence of 7-4 App in my bracket. McNeese at 8-3 COULD beat out 7-4 App, but I think that the preponderance of App's conference schedule outweighs the bulk of McNeese's Southland schedule.

[93henfan]

I know this retarded kid that thinks lots of things are fun.

You know what's great about SOME retarded kids. They seem to really enjoy many things. When there is something they don't enjoy, they tend to keep it to themselves and simply avoid it. Yep...SOME retarded kids do that.

[ming01]

WAY too early to try to come up with brackets. There a HUNDREDS of possible 20 team playoff brackets based on what happens over the next 3 weeks. Will be a # of upsets every week of teams that now look like playoff teams. I'm expecting 3 give or take in the CAA alone over the next 3 weeks.

After each of the next 2 Saturdays the # of possible fields will get exponentially pared down. By the night of Nov 10 we'll have a decent idea, but even then upsets on the final weekend will change lots of things.

wow i hate it when people say this sh!t

[danefan]

Was I a year early for everyone and his brother (except Ivy and SWAC) getting auto-bids?

Yes, I missed the NEC AQ; yes, I had Albany at 10-1, 8-0. They would replace Butler (whom I had in as Pioneer AQ) if I'm a year early. I'd have to re-work the whole thing if THIS is the year everyone gets it.

I guess I cut my Southland prognostication too soon. With McNeese's remaining schedule (@ Nicholls, @ UTSA, LAMAR), I could EASILY see them winning out, and they MIGHT even get FBS credit for the can they're going to open on UTSA. So Albany probably wipes out Butler. The thing is, I see an 8-3 McNeese losing out on a bid to an 8-3 Sac because as bad as CO is, they're a whole lot better than UTSA, and Sac did not demean themselves by playing a D-II (McNeese played McMurry). Sac would probably be the last 8-3 team in; I don't see a 7-4 Sac getting in at all despite the presence of 7-4 App in my bracket. McNeese at 8-3 COULD beat out 7-4 App, but I think that the preponderance of App's conference schedule outweighs the bulk of McNeese's Southland schedule.

The PFL gets an AQ next year.

[kalm]

WAY too early to try to come up with brackets. There a HUNDREDS of possible 20 team playoff brackets based on what happens over the next 3 weeks. Will be a # of upsets every week of teams that now look like playoff teams. I'm expecting 3 give or take in the CAA alone over the next 3 weeks.

After each of the next 2 Saturdays the # of possible fields will get exponentially pared down. By the night of Nov 10 we'll have a decent idea, but even then upsets on the final weekend will change lots of things.

wow i hate it when people say this sh!t

Especially on two different threads.

[CatMom]

Let me clarify:

UTSA is not FBS this year and they do not count as an FBS win for anyone. They are FCS transitional, 1 year behind TXST. They are in the WAC and playing those teams as a filler but, in the end, are FCS counters.

Yes, they are at 74 schollies but so were we, last year.

And I wouldn't count on McNeese getting an easy win out of this one. UTSA is holding its own.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Then don't. Nobody asked you to. The journey can be more fun than the destination, speculation and anticipation are part of the journey.

And nobody asked me not to. Its a GD message board.

Please don't. You spout your wrong opinions enough as it is.


There, now you have have been asked not to.