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The "Great Uniter" indeed:

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Racial attitudes have not improved in the four years since the United States elected its first black president, an Associated Press poll finds, as a slight majority of Americans now express prejudice toward blacks whether they recognize those feelings or not.

Those views could cost President Barack Obama votes as he tries for re-election, the survey found, though the effects are mitigated by some people's more favorable views of blacks.

Racial prejudice has increased slightly since 2008 whether those feelings were measured using questions that explicitly asked respondents about racist attitudes, or through an experimental test that measured implicit views toward race without asking questions about that topic directly.

In all, 51 percent of Americans now express explicit anti-black attitudes, compared with 48 percent in a similar 2008 survey. When measured by an implicit racial attitudes test, the number of Americans with anti-black sentiments jumped to 56 percent, up from 49 percent during the last presidential election. In both tests, the share of Americans expressing pro-black attitudes fell.

"As much as we'd hope the impact of race would decline over time ... it appears the impact of anti-black sentiment on voting is about the same as it was four years ago," said Jon Krosnick, a Stanford University professor who worked with AP to develop the survey.

Most Americans expressed anti-Hispanic sentiments, too. In an AP survey done in 2011, 52 percent of non-Hispanic whites expressed anti-Hispanic attitudes. That figure rose to 57 percent in the implicit test. The survey on Hispanics had no past data for comparison.

The AP surveys were conducted with researchers from Stanford University, the University of Michigan and NORC at the University of Chicago.

Experts on race said they were not surprised by the findings.

"We have this false idea that there is uniformity in progress and that things change in one big step. That is not the way history has worked," said Jelani Cobb, professor of history and director of the Institute for African-American Studies at the University of Connecticut. "When we've seen progress, we've also seen backlash."
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Thanks, conks.
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Who cares about "race relations"
It's not something that can be controlled and governed - nor should it be

My reaction to this is "so what?"
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If race relations are worse, you can thank Obama for it.

I agree with Cleets, though. Who really cares?
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Grizalltheway wrote:Thanks, conks.
Funny you say that since the Donks have turned racism into a big money making business. :nod:
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Baldy wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Thanks, conks.
Funny you say that since the Donks have turned racism into a big money making business. :nod:
Funny, but not really surprising, that you took the bait. :lol: :kisswink:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
Baldy wrote: Funny you say that since the Donks have turned racism into a big money making business. :nod:
Funny, but not really surprising, that you took the bait. :lol: :kisswink:
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Grizalltheway wrote:Thanks, conks.
I think there's an implied premise that the sentiments are unjustified and the implied premise may be false.
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Just read the entire article. What a bunch of crap.

Sometimes I think we need to purge our universities. I know that would be wrong. But, seriously, our universities have become a bastion for a bunch of highly intelligent idiots.
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"...whether they recognize those feelings or not." :rofl: kinda reminds me of that scene from the Holy Grail where the old man says he's not dead yet, and the other guy says something like, "yes you are, you just don't know it yet." think maybe the guys doing these studies have an agenda? You bet your mommas sweet ass they do. I wonder if they even know? :roll:
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If Obama loses next week it's not because we've become more racist in the last four years, it's because people aren't happy with the job he's done so far.
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death dealer wrote:"...whether they recognize those feelings or not." :rofl: kinda reminds me of that scene from the Holy Grail where the old man says he's not dead yet, and the other guy says something like, "yes you are, you just don't know it yet." think maybe the guys doing these studies have an agenda? You bet your mommas sweet ass they do. I wonder if they even know? :roll:
So what you are saying is, they have an agenda...whether they recognize those feelings or not. :lol:
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BlueHen86 wrote:
death dealer wrote:"...whether they recognize those feelings or not." :rofl: kinda reminds me of that scene from the Holy Grail where the old man says he's not dead yet, and the other guy says something like, "yes you are, you just don't know it yet." think maybe the guys doing these studies have an agenda? You bet your mommas sweet ass they do. I wonder if they even know? :roll:
So what you are saying is, they have an agenda...whether they recognize those feelings or not. :lol:
People always have an "agenda" and mostly don't know it
or would like to think they don't have an agenda

We're humans and we rarely examine our motives - literally stop - and examine what each action we perform has behind it... what are the desired outcomes (the motive and expectation) from every action
When I examine my motives my behavior changes dramatically
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BlueHen86 wrote:
death dealer wrote:"...whether they recognize those feelings or not." :rofl: kinda reminds me of that scene from the Holy Grail where the old man says he's not dead yet, and the other guy says something like, "yes you are, you just don't know it yet." think maybe the guys doing these studies have an agenda? You bet your mommas sweet ass they do. I wonder if they even know? :roll:
So what you are saying is, they have an agenda...whether they recognize those feelings or not. :lol:
Thus the rolling eyes. 8-) But, I have no doubt they knew exactly what their motive was. And their results were exactly what they already knew they'd be. Amazing how often it works that way. :roll:
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It's social SCIENCE. And we would be backwards philistines if we were to question SCIENCE.
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Obama has been one of the biggest segregationists in my lifetime trying to polarize the haves with have nots. Like it or not, he's running on class warfare with a distinct racial element to it.
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Pwns wrote:It's social SCIENCE. And we would be backwards philistines if we were to question SCIENCE.
Social Science is NOT science
and dinosaurs were not around at the same time as humans

:nod: Just an FYI for you
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Chizzang wrote:
Pwns wrote:It's social SCIENCE. And we would be backwards philistines if we were to question SCIENCE.
Social Science is NOT science
and dinosaurs were not around at the same time as humans

:nod: Just an FYI for you
I agree on both points, Chizmo. But the social scientists would just do the exact same thing the global warming folks will do will just claim anyone who questions their methods just don't understand what they do.
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Pwns wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Social Science is NOT science
and dinosaurs were not around at the same time as humans

:nod: Just an FYI for you
I agree on both points, Chizmo. But the social scientists would just do the exact same thing the global warming folks will do will just claim anyone who questions their methods just don't understand what they do.
How the heck do we get from race relations to global warming? Are you suggesting that the cooling of race relations if proof that there is no global warming? :lol:
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Pwns wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Social Science is NOT science
and dinosaurs were not around at the same time as humans

:nod: Just an FYI for you
I agree on both points, Chizmo. But the social scientists would just do the exact same thing the global warming folks will do will just claim anyone who questions their methods just don't understand what they do.
Global Climate change is real...
Man made is the only question - no one questions the global climate shifts other than lunatic fringe and the wildly uninformed or stupid

But any scientists saying global climate change is MAN MADE
is at the very least exaggerating marginal evidence

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Grizalltheway wrote:Thanks, conks.
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Ivytalk wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Thanks, conks.
I blame your black girlfriend. :coffee:
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BlueHen86 wrote:If Obama loses next week it's not because we've become more racist in the last four years, it's because people aren't happy with the job he's done so far.
That's not true. Anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is a racist.
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89Hen wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:If Obama loses next week it's not because we've become more racist in the last four years, it's because people aren't happy with the job he's done so far.
That's not true. Anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is a racist.
What about those who voted for him in 2008 and will vote against him now? Are they racists now? And if they are now racists, why the change?
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TheDancinMonarch wrote:
89Hen wrote: That's not true. Anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is a racist.
What about those who voted for him in 2008 and will vote against him now? Are they racists now? And if they are now racists, why the change?
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