I'm sure you'll have Indiana State beating the Bison at home.
How did your Youngstown/Bison prediction turn out?
I wasn't the only one who was wrong. So sue me. I went with a team that improved over last year's team that beat NDSU to beat a NDSU team that isn't all that much better than last year's team. Rest assured, that was the last loseable game on their schedule, IMO.
The Bison offense is better than last year. Our passing game is light years ahead of last year's team. Vraa is head-and-shoulders above Holloway and Brock has more WRs to throw to.
The defense is very good and we'll see how they stack up against last year's team at the end of the season.
Every game left on the schedule is 'loseable' IMO. But if the Bison stay healthy and do not turn the ball over, there is no team in the Valley that will beat them. That probably goes for the rest of the FCS also. If they Bison happen to win out, they will have the #1 seed. I do not see any team coming into the FD and winnning....period.
rkwittem wrote:
I wasn't the only one who was wrong. So sue me. I went with a team that improved over last year's team that beat NDSU to beat a NDSU team that isn't all that much better than last year's team. Rest assured, that was the last loseable game on their schedule, IMO.
The Bison offense is better than last year. Our passing game is light years ahead of last year's team. Vraa is head-and-shoulders above Holloway and Brock has more WRs to throw to.
The defense is very good and we'll see how they stack up against last year's team at the end of the season.
Every game left on the schedule is 'loseable' IMO. But if the Bison stay healthy and do not turn the ball over, there is no team in the Valley that will beat them. That probably goes for the rest of the FCS also. If they Bison happen to win out, they will have the #1 seed. I do not see any team coming into the FD and winnning....period.
The offense is significantly better than last year. Crockett is better than any RB on last years team and Vraa is a better receiver that anyone last year. Plus Ryan Smith looks to be stronger than last year. Win 1 Sr starter, NDSU should get a couple chances to win another title this year or next. The underclassmen from last season have developed into a better team this year.
rkwittem wrote:I wasn't the only one who was wrong. So sue me. I went with a team that improved over last year's team that beat NDSU to beat a NDSU team that isn't all that much better than last year's team. Rest assured, that was the last loseable game on their schedule, IMO.
None of the MVFC games left are sure wins. SDSU and the ISU's will be tough as with any other team on the schedule. Bison still need to take the field and preform.
I think NDSU has 2 Srs that start, 3 if you include the one CB transfer from UNI that's in grad school. A TE and C are the only ones on O. Although I think that that TE, 47 is hurt. He started yesterday against YSU, but looked like he was re-injured early. They also have a couple of RSF that start on the line, which is amazing when you watch their games and see how much time Jensen has to throw and how huge some of those holes are for the running game. That Junior class of theirs is pretty awesome.
MSU has shown they aren't what people think they are. EWU could be legit, I don't trust CP.....after that there is a huge drop.
Playing all games on a neutral field, using current standings
Cal Poly - NDSU - I'll take NDSU
Montana State - SDSU - I'll take SDSU
Northern Arizona - Illinois State - I'll take Illinois State
Eastern Washington - Indiana State - I'll take EWU
Sacramento State - SIU - I'll take SSU
North Dakota - YSU - I'll take YSU
UC Davis - WIU - I'll take WIU
Montana - UNI - I'll take UNI
Southern Utah - USD - I'll take SUU
Idaho State - MSU - I'll take MSU
I'd take USD, WIU, and MSU over the rest of the Big Sky as well
Northern Colorado
Portland State
Weber State
Come on, man. This is a bit of a stretch. You had me until you had SDSU over MSU. Granted, I don't think MSU is the #2 team in the country, but they are better than SDSU. Luckily we have the playoffs to sort all of this out.
EWURanger wrote:
Come on, man. This is a bit of a stretch. You had me until you had SDSU over MSU. Granted, I don't think MSU is the #2 team in the country, but they are better than SDSU. Luckily we have the playoffs to sort all of this out.
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No kidding. SDSU BARELY beat UCD at home.
Not to mention ISU over NAU? This is the same ISU that just got shut out and barely beat South Dakota before that.
rkwittem wrote:
I wasn't the only one who was wrong. So sue me. I went with a team that improved over last year's team that beat NDSU to beat a NDSU team that isn't all that much better than last year's team. Rest assured, that was the last loseable game on their schedule, IMO.
The Bison offense is better than last year. Our passing game is light years ahead of last year's team. Vraa is head-and-shoulders above Holloway and Brock has more WRs to throw to.
The defense is very good and we'll see how they stack up against last year's team at the end of the season.
Every game left on the schedule is 'loseable' IMO. But if the Bison stay healthy and do not turn the ball over, there is no team in the Valley that will beat them. That probably goes for the rest of the FCS also. If they Bison happen to win out, they will have the #1 seed. I do not see any team coming into the FD and winnning....period.
They are as good as last year...no more, no less. I prefer last year's two-headed monster at running back, last year's offensive line, defensive line and LBs to this year's iterations.
The Bison offense is better than last year. Our passing game is light years ahead of last year's team. Vraa is head-and-shoulders above Holloway and Brock has more WRs to throw to.
The defense is very good and we'll see how they stack up against last year's team at the end of the season.
Every game left on the schedule is 'loseable' IMO. But if the Bison stay healthy and do not turn the ball over, there is no team in the Valley that will beat them. That probably goes for the rest of the FCS also. If they Bison happen to win out, they will have the #1 seed. I do not see any team coming into the FD and winnning....period.
They are as good as last year...no more, no less. I prefer last year's two-headed monster at running back, last year's offensive line, defensive line and LBs to this year's iterations.
Are you serious with this?
The tandem of Ojuri and Crocket is pretty darn good this year. Both are better than DJ.
I could see the O-line so far but this year's squad has performed pretty well so far. Both RFR have done a good job.
This year's D-line is better than last year. Perry-Drevlow-Luecke-Schaetz-Juckem are the best rotation in the MV....period. Much deeper group this year. Our LB corp is thin this year but the 3 starters are just as good as last year and they are a faster group collectively.
If this team stays healthy, no other team in the Valley will beat them. The only way the Bison lose is if they turn the ball over multiple times in a game.
rkwittem wrote:
They are as good as last year...no more, no less. I prefer last year's two-headed monster at running back, last year's offensive line, defensive line and LBs to this year's iterations.
Are you serious with this?
The tandem of Ojuri and Crocket is pretty darn good this year. Both are better than DJ.
I could see the O-line so far but this year's squad has performed pretty well so far. Both RFR have done a good job.
This year's D-line is better than last year. Perry-Drevlow-Luecke-Schaetz-Juckem are the best rotation in the MV....period. Much deeper group this year. Our LB corp is thin this year but the 3 starters are just as good as last year and they are a faster group collectively.
If this team stays healthy, no other team in the Valley will beat them. The only way the Bison lose is if they turn the ball over multiple times in a game.
So, are you picking Indiana State this week?
SIU's DL is as good or better than any DL in the MVC. Swanson and Boatwright would start on any team in the MVC. Problem is they have to play 36 minutes per game.
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The tandem of Ojuri and Crocket is pretty darn good this year. Both are better than DJ.
I could see the O-line so far but this year's squad has performed pretty well so far. Both RFR have done a good job.
This year's D-line is better than last year. Perry-Drevlow-Luecke-Schaetz-Juckem are the best rotation in the MV....period. Much deeper group this year. Our LB corp is thin this year but the 3 starters are just as good as last year and they are a faster group collectively.
If this team stays healthy, no other team in the Valley will beat them. The only way the Bison lose is if they turn the ball over multiple times in a game.
So, are you picking Indiana State this week?
SIU's DL is as good or better than any DL in the MVC. Swanson and Boatwright would start on any team in the MVC. Problem is they have to play 36 minutes per game.
We'll see how good they are when SIU comes here to play. If they are that good then they should give our O-line fits. IMO, NDSU beats SIU pretty easily this year.
My impressions of watching NDSU is that they're great on both sides of the ball and, at least at this moment, look like the best in FCS by quite a margin. It's not even like they have great speed, but they get in position and they really don't miss on tackles. I like the way NDSU has recruit to fit a philosophy instead of just taking the best available athletes. For any team thinking playoffs, it'll be eye candy to see the Bison on the other side of the bracket.
The tandem of Ojuri and Crocket is pretty darn good this year. Both are better than DJ.
I could see the O-line so far but this year's squad has performed pretty well so far. Both RFR have done a good job.
This year's D-line is better than last year. Perry-Drevlow-Luecke-Schaetz-Juckem are the best rotation in the MV....period. Much deeper group this year. Our LB corp is thin this year but the 3 starters are just as good as last year and they are a faster group collectively.
If this team stays healthy, no other team in the Valley will beat them. The only way the Bison lose is if they turn the ball over multiple times in a game.
So, are you picking Indiana State this week?
SIU's DL is as good or better than any DL in the MVC. Swanson and Boatwright would start on any team in the MVC. Problem is they have to play 36 minutes per game.
While possible, I highly doubt you have two DL players that could bump any of Emanuel, Jirik, Drevlow, or Perry. The defensive line is one of the most talented and deep positions for NDSU, and that sir, is saying a lot. There is a reason that we were able to knock Hess all over the field and get 2 picks without blitzing.
EWURanger wrote:
Come on, man. This is a bit of a stretch. You had me until you had SDSU over MSU. Granted, I don't think MSU is the #2 team in the country, but they are better than SDSU. Luckily we have the playoffs to sort all of this out.
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No kidding. SDSU BARELY beat UCD at home.
Did MSU not just BARELY beat UCD? Granted it was at UCD, but lets be real, acting like SDSU is a joke from that game is a bit retarded. UCD seems to take everybody they play right down to the end. If they were called UNI they would have people arguing to rank them
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kalm wrote:
No kidding. SDSU BARELY beat UCD at home.
Did MSU not just BARELY beat UCD? Granted it was at UCD, but lets be real, acting like SDSU is a joke from that game is a bit retarded. UCD seems to take everybody they play right down to the end. If they were called UNI they would have people arguing to rank them
Someone posted on another thread how all of UCD's losses have been against ranked teams and close...so you might be on to something here.
NDSU's offense is much better this year, simply because there are more dynamic players and Jensen has a full year of playing QB under his belt.
The defense is close to last year but LB depth is a bit thin. We are a few injuries away from starting a player who was backing up Brock at QB last spring.
As for the MVFC being overrated, it's impossible to tell until the playoffs.
rkwittem wrote:
They are as good as last year...no more, no less. I prefer last year's two-headed monster at running back, last year's offensive line, defensive line and LBs to this year's iterations.
Are you serious with this?
The tandem of Ojuri and Crocket is pretty darn good this year. Both are better than DJ.
I could see the O-line so far but this year's squad has performed pretty well so far. Both RFR have done a good job.
This year's D-line is better than last year. Perry-Drevlow-Luecke-Schaetz-Juckem are the best rotation in the MV....period. Much deeper group this year. Our LB corp is thin this year but the 3 starters are just as good as last year and they are a faster group collectively.
If this team stays healthy, no other team in the Valley will beat them. The only way the Bison lose is if they turn the ball over multiple times in a game.
So, are you picking Indiana State this week?
No, I just say things on here to get a rise out of people...
Ojuri and Crockett or Ojuri and McNorton? Who cares? They're all good. I prefer McNorton...big deal.
O-line hasn't been tested yet.
And, for the record, I already said the Bison will not lose a game for the rest of the regular season.
There. Now with that out of the way, I'm still waiting for someone to disprove the original point of the thread- that the MVFC is in fact overrated. I don't come here for the arguments with NDSU homers- if I wanted that, I'd sign up at Bisonville.
I remember reading last year that DJ was the best RB in the history of ever - okay not to use Lakes or JBB's words but I kept hearing how he was the best running back by a long shot....now NDSU has backs better than him?
I hate to go down this road but NDSU has SEC talent apparently.
FWIW, I have NEVER been impressed with Ojuri...McNorton or Crocket, sure...Never Ojuri
clenz wrote:I remember reading last year that DJ was the best RB in the history of ever - okay not to use Lakes or JBB's words but I kept hearing how he was the best running back by a long shot....now NDSU has backs better than him?
I hate to go down this road but NDSU has SEC talent apparently.
FWIW, I have NEVER been impressed with Ojuri...McNorton or Crocket, sure...Never Ojuri
Lakes and JBB gone, fabulous. NDSU is better this year. UNI had a crazy schedule this year or they would be in position for a nice playoff run.
clenz wrote:I remember reading last year that DJ was the best RB in the history of ever - okay not to use Lakes or JBB's words but I kept hearing how he was the best running back by a long shot....now NDSU has backs better than him?
I hate to go down this road but NDSU has SEC talent apparently.
FWIW, I have NEVER been impressed with Ojuri...McNorton or Crocket, sure...Never Ojuri
Ojuri is just kind of a workhorse back, he will grind out some tough yards, hold onto the football and is solid at pass blocking. Not a lot of flash but he works well within what NDSU wants to do. DJ was a good back but when he came to NDSU some people hyped him as being the second coming. Lakes of course was leading that bandwagon.
The tandem of Ojuri and Crocket is pretty darn good this year. Both are better than DJ.
I could see the O-line so far but this year's squad has performed pretty well so far. Both RFR have done a good job.
This year's D-line is better than last year. Perry-Drevlow-Luecke-Schaetz-Juckem are the best rotation in the MV....period. Much deeper group this year. Our LB corp is thin this year but the 3 starters are just as good as last year and they are a faster group collectively.
If this team stays healthy, no other team in the Valley will beat them. The only way the Bison lose is if they turn the ball over multiple times in a game.
So, are you picking Indiana State this week?
No, I just say things on here to get a rise out of people...
Ojuri and Crockett or Ojuri and McNorton? Who cares? They're all good. I prefer McNorton...big deal.
O-line hasn't been tested yet.
And, for the record, I already said the Bison will not lose a game for the rest of the regular season.
There. Now with that out of the way, I'm still waiting for someone to disprove the original point of the thread- that the MVFC is in fact overrated. I don't come here for the arguments with NDSU homers- if I wanted that, I'd sign up at Bisonville.
Not sure I'd call our OL untested, I mean we have played UNI who typically has a solid to spectacular DL. Perhaps SIU is the next biggest test. They've always given us fits.
rkwittem wrote:
No, I just say things on here to get a rise out of people...
Ojuri and Crockett or Ojuri and McNorton? Who cares? They're all good. I prefer McNorton...big deal.
O-line hasn't been tested yet.
And, for the record, I already said the Bison will not lose a game for the rest of the regular season.
There. Now with that out of the way, I'm still waiting for someone to disprove the original point of the thread- that the MVFC is in fact overrated. I don't come here for the arguments with NDSU homers- if I wanted that, I'd sign up at Bisonville.
Not sure I'd call our OL untested, I mean we have played UNI who typically has a solid to spectacular DL. Perhaps SIU is the next biggest test. They've always given us fits.
UNI's front 7 on D is "weak" this year compared to normal - especially during the NDSU game. 3 of our top 5 LB's were out and 2 of them that were playing had missed time with injuries already in the year.
UNI's front 7 ain't what she used to be, for this year it appears.
Is NDSU over rated? No. The rest of the conference? Maybe... We'll see come playoff time. Perhaps NDSU has separated themselves from a really good group.
As for the earlier request to see ODU face NDSU, that would be a whuppin.' ODU has a below average defense that NDSU would toy with. I'd guess mid 40's or more to low 20's... It would be a blood letting... Bad matchup for ODU.'
houndawg wrote:
SIU's DL is as good or better than any DL in the MVC. Swanson and Boatwright would start on any team in the MVC. Problem is they have to play 36 minutes per game.
We'll see how good they are when SIU comes here to play. If they are that good then they should give our O-line fits. IMO, NDSU beats SIU pretty easily this year.
I think they'll do fine until they run out of gas because the offense can't convert on 3rd down, we're 7/45 in the last three games. They certainly gave your o line fits last year -of course last year was an aberration and there isn't another player in the MVC who could start for NDSU. Maybe a couple of guys from LSU or 'bama could crack the line up. You'll win easily because our offense sucks unbelievably and will give you a lot of short fields.
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clenz wrote:I remember reading last year that DJ was the best RB in the history of ever - okay not to use Lakes or JBB's words but I kept hearing how he was the best running back by a long shot....now NDSU has backs better than him?
I hate to go down this road but NDSU has SEC talent apparently.
FWIW, I have NEVER been impressed with Ojuri...McNorton or Crocket, sure...Never Ojuri
They are good serviceable RBs who will run where the blocking takes them. McNorton ran 4.8 at the pro tryouts.
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SIU's DL is as good or better than any DL in the MVC. Swanson and Boatwright would start on any team in the MVC. Problem is they have to play 36 minutes per game.
