Idaho State at Portland State

[JALMOND]

Kickoff scheduled for 5pm PDT from Jeld Wen Field in Portland for a Big Sky game between the Idaho State Bengals and the Portland State Vikings. The Bengals come in to the game 1-3 overall and 0-1 in the conference after losing at home to Sacramento State last week. Their lone win came at home against DII Black Hills State. The Vikings have played one more game than the Bengals and come in 1-4 overall, 0-2 in the conference after losing last week at Northern Arizona. Their only win came in the opening weekend at home against NAIA Carroll College. The Bengals come in with a primarily passing attack led by quarterback Kevin Yost and receiver Roderick Rumble. The Vikings are led by true freshman Kieran McDonaugh and have more of a balanced attack than the Bengals. Weather should be sunny and windy with gametime temps near 70.

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TV: Live television in Oregon and Washington on Comcast Sports Northwest. Also available on Big Sky TV. No TV in the Pocatello area.

[SDHornet]

The Bengals come in with only a passing attack led by quarterback Kevin Yost and receiver Roderick Rumble.

FIFY. Vikes call heavy blitz on defense, they win. ISU has no defense so unless the Vikes have a lot of turnovers, they should outscore the Bengals. I expect close to 100 points in this one.

[JALMOND]

The Bengals come in with only a passing attack led by quarterback Kevin Yost and receiver Roderick Rumble.

FIFY. Vikes call heavy blitz on defense, they win. ISU has no defense so unless the Vikes have a lot of turnovers, they should outscore the Bengals. I expect close to 100 points in this one.

I don't know if I would blitz and leave our secondary in man coverage. Creates more holes than Swiss cheese. But Burton seems to have more faith in that secondary than I do and he knows a lot more about this team than I do. We shall see.

[rowdytiger]

Yost and Rumble could have a big game, but PSU will rush for 400+ yards and win by double digits. ISU is terrible on the road, the defense is terrible against the run, and the O-Line can't block.

ISU hasn't won a road game since 2006. That's 34 straight road losses.. I doubt that trend will change.

[biobengal]

Yost and Rumble could have a big game, but PSU will rush for 400+ yards and win by double digits. ISU is terrible on the road, the defense is terrible against the run, and the O-Line can't block.

ISU hasn't won a road game since 2006. That's 34 straight road losses.. I doubt that trend will change.

That's the sum of it, no doubt.

[biobengal]

Going as expected, Vikings take the kickoff and march 85 yards for a TD, 0-7.

[JALMOND]

Final score

Portland State 77
Idaho State 10

Everyone is right. Bengals are terrible.

[EWURanger]

Just. Wow.


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[Grizalltheway]

Wow, 437 yards rushing for PSU. Our offense is going to run roughshod over these guys in a couple of weeks.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Wow, 437 yards rushing for PSU. Our offense is going to run roughshod over these guys in a couple of weeks.

EWU had 290 against UND. It's like the two are competing to have the worst run D.

[Mvemjsunpx]

Wow, 437 yards rushing for PSU. Our offense is going to run roughshod over these guys in a couple of weeks.

EWU had 290 against UND. It's like the two are competing to have the worst run D.

ISU has a big head start. They're last in the nation.

[JALMOND]

All reality, Yost did not get any help in the game from his receivers. Many catchable balls in the first quarter were dropped. Yost then seemed to start forcing it and we were able to sit back and read his throws. Helps when you have a sizable lead, too.

[LDopaPDX]

Damn, Idaho State would struggle as a D-II. I never thought they'd be this bad in Kramer's second year. That program must just be in arrears. They've actually had a pair of decent head coaches (Zamberlin and Kramer), and neither was even close to .500 for a single season.

[SDHornet]

Just. Wow.


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Yeah no kidding. I thought ISU would show improvement in their second season under Kramer. They hung tough with us last week for a half, so I figured they would hang for a while with PSU. Both ISU and UNC are looking to have zero improvement under their new coaches. Not good for the conference.

[biobengal]

Damn, Idaho State would struggle as a D-II. I never thought they'd be this bad in Kramer's second year. That program must just be in arrears. They've actually had a pair of decent head coaches (Zamberlin and Kramer), and neither was even close to .500 for a single season.

Whoaa... really? Zamberlin was a decent coach? All signs point to no. In fact, CWU actually improved after he left. This decent coach also had insane turnover which led to severe APR penalties: reduced scholarships, reduced practice time, post season bans, etc..

[LDopaPDX]

I knew Zamberlin well and thought he was quite good. Central improved because Beau Baldwin was the next coach. I think a lot of the problems ISU faces are program-type problems... I just don't think coaches who've been successful other places suddenly forget to coach when they come to Pocatello. I mean, seriously, Kramer had some up and down years at both Eastern and Montana State, but generally his teams were winning and competitive. Idaho State just lost by 67 to a team that, at best, is still bottom-half of the conference.

I think you've got a clown culture in Pocatello and no one knows whow to run that program. The whole bit with the AD telling reporters before the Nebraska game that "well, coach and I figured we'd lose either way, so we chose more money and a coolor environment in Lincoln..." (or whatever that gaffe of a comment was..) I mean, what kind of AD says that to the media???

[biobengal]

I knew Zamberlin well and thought he was quite good.

I see, that probably explains it.

Zamberlin was a curse on the ISU football program, a program that was competitive and won a Big Sky title before his arrival. Losing.... it sucks, but can be tolerated. However, like I said before, he not only lost games, he lost the respect of Bengal fans by running a loose ship with no accountability, kids were not going to class, there was a revolving door of personnel, etc.. This eventually led to STIFF APR penalties and damage to the reputation of the entire program, something Kramer has had to repair. In fact, Kramer had to give scholly's to walk-on's just to improve the APR.

[EWURanger]

I knew Zamberlin well and thought he was quite good.

I see, that probably explains it.

Zamberlin was a curse on the ISU football program, a program that was competitive and won a Big Sky title before his arrival. Losing.... it sucks, but can be tolerated. However, like I said before, he not only lost games, he lost the respect of Bengal fans by running a loose ship with no accountability, kids were not going to class, there was a revolving door of personnel, etc.. This eventually led to STIFF APR penalties and damage to the reputation of the entire program, something Kramer has had to repair. In fact, Kramer had to give scholly's to walk-on's just to improve the APR.

Zamberlin might have had a lot to do with ISU's problems, but not all of it. As was mentioned, coaches that are successful previously don't just forget how to coach all of a sudden. And let's not get carried away here; Idaho State had one good year in recent history prior to his arrival in Pocatello - 2003, wasn't it?

Anyway, it's a fact that ISU is a difficult place to win at. If Kramer can't improve the program, I'm not sure who else is going to be successful there.

[JALMOND]

I wasn't going to say anything because I did not want to ignite a firestorm but after reading the writeup from Pocatello, I feel safe now. We are not anywhere close to being 60+ points better than anyone on our best day. What I saw last night was this, the whole ISU football team, the coaches and players, all quit halfway through the third quarter. After we recovered the fumbled kickoff and took it in a few plays later before halftime, I was expecting the Bengals to come out firing because I've seen Kramer coached teams before. But there was no fire, no fun, no coaching and no playing from the Bengals, and I was frankly shocked. No one on that team held anyone accountable for what was going on on the field. I've seen Kramer go off on coaches and players before (actually anyone including referees and administrators), but I did not see that last night. If I were a Bengal fan, I would be really upset right now. Maybe the team needs Jared Allen to come in and speak on the pride of Bengal football because there is none of that.

[LDopaPDX]

I knew Zamberlin well and thought he was quite good.

I see, that probably explains it.

Zamberlin was a curse on the ISU football program, a program that was competitive and won a Big Sky title before his arrival. Losing.... it sucks, but can be tolerated. However, like I said before, he not only lost games, he lost the respect of Bengal fans by running a loose ship with no accountability, kids were not going to class, there was a revolving door of personnel, etc.. This eventually led to STIFF APR penalties and damage to the reputation of the entire program, something Kramer has had to repair. In fact, Kramer had to give scholly's to walk-on's just to improve the APR.

Remember, Zamberlin was an Eastern guy for a while... and did well there.

But he had about the same level of success as Beau Baldwin while at Central, except he kept that machine going longer. And everyone knows Kramer has done well in the past. How do you explain that these guys had/have such trouble in Pocatello?

And don't give me that flash in a pan we-once-won-8-games in 2001 or whatever year it was... Idaho State has been the conference whipping post since the mid-80s. Losing isn't new there, it's the culture. I remember Eastern having their worst year in some 50 years back in the late 80s, winning only 2 and tying one that season, and EWU still beat Idaho State something like 38-3. And I don't think the culture could have been made more evident than when your AD is out there commenting about sure-loss games. That was so000 Bush League.

[biobengal]

Zamberlin might have had a lot to do with ISU's problems, but not all of it. As was mentioned, coaches that are successful previously don't just forget how to coach all of a sudden. And let's not get carried away here; Idaho State had one good year in recent history prior to his arrival in Pocatello - 2003, wasn't it?

Anyway, it's a fact that ISU is a difficult place to win at. If Kramer can't improve the program, I'm not sure who else is going to be successful there.

Come now... who's getting carried away? Lewis had some success at Idaho State, that's a fact: eight seasons, one Big Sky title, two 8 win seasons, one Buchanan Award winner, solid wins against Utah State, Montana, Montana State and Eastern. Lets be clear, coaches can make a program, Indiana State is a good example of this. All it takes is one good hire to get things rolling.

By comparison, Zamberlin was a dumpster fire. That's a fact; there's no denying it. Let me repeat, Zamberlin couldn't manage personnel at this level and didn't bring in kids that could be successful in the classroom. From his first class, mostly JC kids, few actually contributed or graduated. Zamberlin's win total went down every year; D1 wins: 2, 1, 1, 0. What's with you guys? Was Zamberlin the best man at your wedding?

Will Kramer be successful? Who knows, he has a long way to go, but lets not pretend Kramer is the old ball coach either. Bobcat fans will tell you as much.

[kalm]

Zamberlin might have had a lot to do with ISU's problems, but not all of it. As was mentioned, coaches that are successful previously don't just forget how to coach all of a sudden. And let's not get carried away here; Idaho State had one good year in recent history prior to his arrival in Pocatello - 2003, wasn't it?

Anyway, it's a fact that ISU is a difficult place to win at. If Kramer can't improve the program, I'm not sure who else is going to be successful there.

Come now... who's getting carried away? Lewis had some success at Idaho State, that's a fact: eight seasons, one Big Sky title, two 8 win seasons, one Buchanan Award winner, solid wins against Utah State, Montana, Montana State and Eastern. Lets be clear, coaches can make a program, Indiana State is a good example of this. All it takes is one good hire to get things rolling.

By comparison, Zamberlin was a dumpster fire. That's a fact; there's no denying it. Let me repeat, Zamberlin couldn't manage personnel at this level and didn't bring in kids that could be successful in the classroom. From his first class, mostly JC kids, few actually contributed or graduated. Zamberlin's win total went down every year; D1 wins: 2, 1, 1, 0. What's with you guys? Was Zamberlin the best man at your wedding?

Will Kramer be successful? Who knows, he has a long way to go, but lets not pretend Kramer is the old ball coach either. Bobcat fans will tell you as much.

Zamberlin mentored Beau Baldwin and John Graham. You can't find two more outstanding individuals with squeeky clean resume's and a program run with class and responsibility. Kramer took a team with the smallest athletics budget and support in the BSC to the semi's and then completely turned around an MSU program that had been in the shitter forever. Pocatello itself might be the dumpster fire in this equation.

[biobengal]

Come now... who's getting carried away? Lewis had some success at Idaho State, that's a fact: eight seasons, one Big Sky title, two 8 win seasons, one Buchanan Award winner, solid wins against Utah State, Montana, Montana State and Eastern. Lets be clear, coaches can make a program, Indiana State is a good example of this. All it takes is one good hire to get things rolling.

By comparison, Zamberlin was a dumpster fire. That's a fact; there's no denying it. Let me repeat, Zamberlin couldn't manage personnel at this level and didn't bring in kids that could be successful in the classroom. From his first class, mostly JC kids, few actually contributed or graduated. Zamberlin's win total went down every year; D1 wins: 2, 1, 1, 0. What's with you guys? Was Zamberlin the best man at your wedding?

Will Kramer be successful? Who knows, he has a long way to go, but lets not pretend Kramer is the old ball coach either. Bobcat fans will tell you as much.

Zamberlin mentored Beau Baldwin and John Graham. You can't find two more outstanding individuals with squeeky clean resume's and a program run with class and responsibility. Kramer took a team with the smallest athletics budget and support in the BSC to the semi's and then completely turned around an MSU program that had been in the shitter forever. Pocatello itself might be the dumpster fire in this equation.

I get it, you love the guy; at Z's wedding Ranger was the best man and Kalm was the matron of honor.

Is Idaho State in a pickle? Absolutely; many problems, no doubt. Yet, there's hope, this program has one of the NFL's best at DL as an alum and has shown success is possible. Despite some problems, ISU has a title in "recent memory", more than can be said for several Big Sky programs. What were we talking about again? Oh yes, Z is widely appreciated in the scablands.

[kalm]

Zamberlin mentored Beau Baldwin and John Graham. You can't find two more outstanding individuals with squeeky clean resume's and a program run with class and responsibility. Kramer took a team with the smallest athletics budget and support in the BSC to the semi's and then completely turned around an MSU program that had been in the shitter forever. Pocatello itself might be the dumpster fire in this equation.

I get it, you love the guy; at Z's wedding Ranger was the best man and Kalm was the matron of honor.

Is Idaho State in a pickle? Absolutely; many problems, no doubt. Yet, there's hope, this program has one of the NFL's best at DL as an alum and has shown success is possible. Despite some problems, ISU has a title in "recent memory", more than can be said for several Big Sky programs. What were we talking about again? Oh yes, Z is widely appreciated in the scablands.

I don't know the guy, but I get it...it's everyone else's fault.

[LDopaPDX]

Help me out, when were Idaho State's two conference championships recently? I'm not trying to be a dick, I just don't remember Idaho State in the playoffs in what seems like forever. I know they had like a 3-way conference championship but lost to the other 2 teams and didn't get an autobid and were not dealt a wildcard back in the early 2000s, but I don't recall any other good seasons.

Honestly, I don't recall Idaho State being "really good" at all since their 1981 season.