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C'mon, man, give it up. Free Assange!



Chizzang wrote:Julian Assange simply revealed the true character of some of our Agencies...They don't like that



I completely and wholeheartedley disagreeBison Fan in NW MN wrote:Chizzang wrote:Julian Assange simply revealed the true character of some of our Agencies...They don't like that
Sheez......I think he did alittle more than that!



If no one cares, why go through all the trouble of hiding/lying/covering up? Why not just say "fuck it" and do whatever they want?Chizzang wrote:I completely and wholeheartedley disagreeBison Fan in NW MN wrote:
Sheez......I think he did alittle more than that!
U.S. Corporations dumping toxic waste in Africa / Inhumane protocol standards from Guantanamo Bay revealed in our State Departments own words / Afghan policy of cover-ups and the trail of lies / Iraq War lies and deceit...
Exposing our true character to the world...
Only one problem, Americans don't read
So no need to cover them up - nobody read the reports - nobody walking the streets in the great USA cares
So who cares..?


Beats me...?AZGrizFan wrote:If no one cares, why go through all the trouble of hiding/lying/covering up? Why not just say "fuck it" and do whatever they want?Chizzang wrote:
I completely and wholeheartedley disagree
U.S. Corporations dumping toxic waste in Africa / Inhumane protocol standards from Guantanamo Bay revealed in our State Departments own words / Afghan policy of cover-ups and the trail of lies / Iraq War lies and deceit...
Exposing our true character to the world...
Only one problem, Americans don't read
So no need to cover them up - nobody read the reports - nobody walking the streets in the great USA cares
So who cares..?

Perhaps you're wrong?Chizzang wrote:Beats me...?AZGrizFan wrote:
If no one cares, why go through all the trouble of hiding/lying/covering up? Why not just say "fuck it" and do whatever they want?
You tell me


perhaps I'm notAZGrizFan wrote:Perhaps you're wrong?Chizzang wrote:
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Yep. He'd be smart to stay where there would be too much "collateral damage" to use a a drone.Chizzang wrote:Julian Assange simply revealed the true character of some of our Agencies...They don't like that

Whatever happened to Obama's "transparency" promise?Chizzang wrote:Julian Assange simply revealed the true character of some of our Agencies...They don't like that

They don't care about their actions...their actions are very profitable. They just care about not looking like they're doing their actions. Public image important...it keeps the masses quiet.AZGrizFan wrote:If no one cares, why go through all the trouble of hiding/lying/covering up? Why not just say "fuck it" and do whatever they want?




Ivytalk wrote:Assange needs to be housed in the general population of the worst prison in the US with 300-pound horny cellmates named Bubba and Hakim.No sympathy for that rat-bastage.

More like you have an incomplete picture. Wikileaks caused damage nobody will know about, until the next time we have a major intelligence failure because foreign nationals are too afraid to tell us things. The damage runs deep and it is substantial.Chizzang wrote:perhaps I'm notAZGrizFan wrote:
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Because you're from the government and you're here to help? (Or something like that...?CID1990 wrote:More like you have an incomplete picture. Wikileaks caused damage nobody will know about, until the next time we have a major intelligence failure because foreign nationals are too afraid to tell us things. The damage runs deep and it is substantial.Chizzang wrote: perhaps I'm not

Uhhh...you can build a nuclear bomb with information from the local library. You can build all sorts of biological weapons from information in libraries. You can use todays RC vehicles to deliver ordinance.GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:If this asshat had the plans for completing a nuclear bomb complete with a guidance system, don't you think he would release that as well? It doesn't matter the content of what he released, it was classified information and he should not have released it. I am all for freedom of the press but what he released was a lot different than breaking a watergate story.

The real problem is that we aren't more open about our policies and objectives. We cover up everything and then use that as an excuse to steal money and do our dirty business behind a wall of poppycock. A giant wall of horseshit.CID1990 wrote:More like you have an incomplete picture. Wikileaks caused damage nobody will know about, until the next time we have a major intelligence failure because foreign nationals are too afraid to tell us things. The damage runs deep and it is substantial.Chizzang wrote: perhaps I'm not

But aren't they "fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here?"Cluck U wrote:The real problem is that we aren't more open about our policies and objectives. We cover up everything and then use that as an excuse to steal money and do our dirty business behind a wall of poppycock. A giant wall of horseshit.CID1990 wrote:
More like you have an incomplete picture. Wikileaks caused damage nobody will know about, until the next time we have a major intelligence failure because foreign nationals are too afraid to tell us things. The damage runs deep and it is substantial.![]()
Sure, you don't want to rat out an informant if it endangers his life, but that is such a ridiculously small bit of the classified material it is almost not worth mentioning in the bigger picture.
Seriously, the way we do things invites far more problems than any information that Assange revealed. We do things to protect the interests of a small minority of movers and shakers...we don't do things to protect American in general. If we did, we wouldn't have had 2,125 of our soldiers die (so far) in Afghanistan.

If what you say was true, why would Iran be spending so much time and money on developing one? Is it because they can't read the language of infidels?Cluck U wrote:Uhhh...you can build a nuclear bomb with information from the local library. You can build all sorts of biological weapons from information in libraries. You can use todays RC vehicles to deliver ordinance.GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:If this asshat had the plans for completing a nuclear bomb complete with a guidance system, don't you think he would release that as well? It doesn't matter the content of what he released, it was classified information and he should not have released it. I am all for freedom of the press but what he released was a lot different than breaking a watergate story.
So, let's just start banning libraries and toys, shall we?
"Classified" information...yeah, just like Obama's college records.![]()
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