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Re: Obama: "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

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dbackjon wrote:
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Wrong. Like I just stated in the other thread, Romey has gained in the swing state polls. Obama's DNC bounce has evaporated.
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And as I SHOWED you are using worthless polls.

Game, Set, Match ME.

Enjoy another Obama 300+ electoral landslide.
Game, set match you're an idiot.

Rasmussen is a worthless poll and the others you listed aren't.. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

1st of all, you display your ignorance by claiming 08' was a 300 point Obama landslide. :dunce: WRONG. In 08' electoral it was 365-173, a difference of 192. The last time there a 300+ electoral landslide was 88' with Bush and Dukakis.

So you think Obama is going to win by a far bigger margin this time, by a 300 electoral college landslide? Care to put your $ where your mouth is? Do you have pay pal? I will bet you $20 right now that Obama doesn't win by 300 electoral. Check that, make it an even $100. Romney wins or Obama wins by 299 or less I win. Obama wins by $300 or more you win.
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Re: Obama: "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

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BDKJMU wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

And as I SHOWED you are using worthless polls.

Game, Set, Match ME.

Enjoy another Obama 300+ electoral landslide.
Game, set match you're an idiot.

Rasmussen is a worthless poll and the others you listed aren't.. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

1st of all, you display your ignorance by claiming 08' was a 300 point Obama landslide. :dunce: WRONG. In 08' electoral it was 365-173, a difference of 192. The last time there a 300+ electoral landslide was 88' with Bush and Dukakis.

So you think Obama is going to win by a far bigger margin this time, by a 300 electoral college landslide? Care to put your $ where your mouth is? Do you have pay pal? I will bet you $20 right now that Obama doesn't win by 300 electoral. Check that, make it an even $100. Romney wins or Obama wins by 299 or less I win. Obama wins by $300 or more you win.

Wow you are dense. 300+ means that he will get 300 or more electorial votes.

I will make you the same bet I made AZGrizfan in 2008 - a NAU hat to you if Obama gets less than 300 EV, you send me a JMU hat if he gets more than 300 EV.
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Re: Obama: "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

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dbackjon wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Game, set match you're an idiot.

Rasmussen is a worthless poll and the others you listed aren't.. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

1st of all, you display your ignorance by claiming 08' was a 300 point Obama landslide. :dunce: WRONG. In 08' electoral it was 365-173, a difference of 192. The last time there a 300+ electoral landslide was 88' with Bush and Dukakis.

So you think Obama is going to win by a far bigger margin this time, by a 300 electoral college landslide? Care to put your $ where your mouth is? Do you have pay pal? I will bet you $20 right now that Obama doesn't win by 300 electoral. Check that, make it an even $100. Romney wins or Obama wins by 299 or less I win. Obama wins by $300 or more you win.

Wow you are dense. 300+ means that he will get 300 or more electorial votes.

I will make you the same bet I made AZGrizfan in 2008 - a NAU hat to you if Obama gets less than 300 EV, you send me a JMU hat if he gets more than 300 EV.
Well, the way you wrote it can easily be read to mean a 300+ margin.

Why would I want an NAU hat? :?
Why would you want a JMU one. :?
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Re: Obama: "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

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BDKJMU wrote:
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Wow you are dense. 300+ means that he will get 300 or more electorial votes.

I will make you the same bet I made AZGrizfan in 2008 - a NAU hat to you if Obama gets less than 300 EV, you send me a JMU hat if he gets more than 300 EV.
Well, the way you wrote it can easily be read to mean a 300+ margin.

Why would I want an NAU hat? :?
Why would you want a JMU one. :?

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Still have the Montana hat I won from Z in '08
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Re: Obama: "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

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dbackjon wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Well, the way you wrote it can easily be read to mean a 300+ margin.

Why would I want an NAU hat? :?
Why would you want a JMU one. :?

I look good in purple ;)

Still have the Montana hat I won from Z in '08
It's his officlal softball hat. 8-)
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Re: Obama: "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

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Chizzang wrote:I feel so bad for the Wealthy in this country right now
Obama has been taking away all their monies - FOX news keeps telling me that - even though actually
The Elite wealthy have never been richer or had it better that RIGHT NOW

89hen their are two drums being banged - over and over
1) Telling us that wealth is being redistributed
2) the other showing us that the wealthy are getting richer and richer

So if I tell you - wealth is being redistributed
and then I show you who keeps getting richer
Could you please describe where this re-distribution is going..?
You're a smart guy. Why are you so dense in this matter? The rich getting richer has NOTHING to do wth the goverment's desire to take away more of their wealth. The mindset that the rich somehow owe more and more above the normal share is disgusting.
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Re: Obama: "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

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Who's got a PayPal account..?
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Re: Obama: "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

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Chizzang wrote:Who's got a PayPal account..?
I'll bet any loud talker on here Obama wins the election - Just name your bet
:? What does that have to do with anything? I think Obama will win and by a similar margin as last time.
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Re: Obama: "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

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BTW, you keep asking why I care. Let me ask you two questions...

1. Would you ever burn a flag in protest?

2. Would you fight for people to have the right to burn a flag in protest?
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Re: Obama: "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

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89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Who's got a PayPal account..?
I'll bet any loud talker on here Obama wins the election - Just name your bet
:? What does that have to do with anything? I think Obama will win and by a similar margin as last time.
There are people adamantly arguing on this forum that Romney will win...
So this is called "betting"
It's ancient - predates the catholic church even - maybe you've heard of it
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Re: Obama: "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

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BDKJMU wrote:
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Who cares what Obama said 14 years ago? He's been President for 3.5 years. Like him or not, you know what you've got. Finding this clip is just lame desperation.

I'll say it again, Romney should be hammering Obama on the economy. Obama said lots of things during the 2008 campaign, many of which he failed to deliver on. Romney should be running ads with those sound bites non-stop for the next 7 weeks.

Our embassies are under attack, the economy still sucks and Obama is gaining in the polls. Romney is running one of the worst campaigns ever. Maybe it's a Massachusetts thing!?
Wrong. Like I just stated in the other thread, Romey has gained in the swing state polls. Obama's DNC bounce has evaporated.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=32165&p=694612#p694609" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Wrong. You're wrong here, and you're wrong in the other thread. Keep dreaming.
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Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote: :? What does that have to do with anything? I think Obama will win and by a similar margin as last time.
There are people adamantly arguing on this forum that Romney will win...
So this is called "betting"
It's ancient - predates the catholic church even - maybe you've heard of it
Sorry, thought it was directed at me.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Wrong. Like I just stated in the other thread, Romey has gained in the swing state polls. Obama's DNC bounce has evaporated.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=32165&p=694612#p694609" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
In national polls, Obama is well ahead of where the last several winners were at this stage of the game. Unless something drastic happens, it's over. And yes, I'd put money on it (but not 10 grand).
Even many in the GOP are worried about how he is running his campaign. It's not over, but Romney is in trouble.
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BDKJMU wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

And as I SHOWED you are using worthless polls.

Game, Set, Match ME.

Enjoy another Obama 300+ electoral landslide.
Game, set match you're an idiot.

Rasmussen is a worthless poll and the others you listed aren't.. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

1st of all, you display your ignorance by claiming 08' was a 300 point Obama landslide. :dunce: WRONG. In 08' electoral it was 365-173, a difference of 192. The last time there a 300+ electoral landslide was 88' with Bush and Dukakis.

So you think Obama is going to win by a far bigger margin this time, by a 300 electoral college landslide? Care to put your $ where your mouth is? Do you have pay pal? I will bet you $20 right now that Obama doesn't win by 300 electoral. Check that, make it an even $100. Romney wins or Obama wins by 299 or less I win. Obama wins by $300 or more you win.
He resorted to namecalling. :ohno:

Game, set, match to dbackjon. :lol:
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BlueHen86 wrote:It's not over
Barring a miracle it is.
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89Hen wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:It's not over
Barring a miracle it is.
Maybe Romney can find a video where Obama says "I was born in Kenya before I was born in the US".
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89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:I feel so bad for the Wealthy in this country right now
Obama has been taking away all their monies - FOX news keeps telling me that - even though actually
The Elite wealthy have never been richer or had it better that RIGHT NOW

89hen their are two drums being banged - over and over
1) Telling us that wealth is being redistributed
2) the other showing us that the wealthy are getting richer and richer

So if I tell you - wealth is being redistributed
and then I show you who keeps getting richer
Could you please describe where this re-distribution is going..?
You're a smart guy. Why are you so dense in this matter? The rich getting richer has NOTHING to do wth the goverment's desire to take away more of their wealth. The mindset that the rich somehow owe more and more above the normal share is disgusting.
Welcome to overly dramatic theater. :lol:

We have 30 years of tilting the deck in favor of wealth through taxation and deregulation. The rich are smart and have bought their way to greater fortune with less skin in the game. And it's all legal. So kudo's to them for playing so well...I guess. :?
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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: You're a smart guy. Why are you so dense in this matter? The rich getting richer has NOTHING to do wth the goverment's desire to take away more of their wealth. The mindset that the rich somehow owe more and more above the normal share is disgusting.
Welcome to overly dramatic theater. :lol:

We have 30 years of tilting the deck in favor of wealth through taxation and deregulation. The rich are smart and have bought their way to greater fortune with less skin in the game. And it's all legal. So kudo's to them for playing so well...I guess. :?
:? :? :?

The "rich" 20% provide 80% of the "skin". :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Welcome to overly dramatic theater. :lol:

We have 30 years of tilting the deck in favor of wealth through taxation and deregulation. The rich are smart and have bought their way to greater fortune with less skin in the game. And it's all legal. So kudo's to them for playing so well...I guess. :?
:? :? :?

The "rich" 20% provide 80% of the "skin". :coffee:
How does that compare to their income? Believe me I want them carrying less of the burden as that would indicate a strengthening middle class. Please show me where supply side economics and a deregulated financial sector has led to a stronger middle class. This the bed they have bought and paid and for. I do not feel sorry for their tax burden. Sorry.
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
:? :? :?

The "rich" 20% provide 80% of the "skin". :coffee:
How does that compare to their income? Believe me I want them carrying less of the burden as that would indicate a strengthening middle class. Please show me where supply side economics and a deregulated financial sector has led to a stronger middle class. This the bed they have bought and paid and for. I do not feel sorry for their tax burden. Sorry.
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89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:I feel so bad for the Wealthy in this country right now
Obama has been taking away all their monies - FOX news keeps telling me that - even though actually
The Elite wealthy have never been richer or had it better that RIGHT NOW

89hen their are two drums being banged - over and over
1) Telling us that wealth is being redistributed
2) the other showing us that the wealthy are getting richer and richer

So if I tell you - wealth is being redistributed
and then I show you who keeps getting richer
Could you please describe where this re-distribution is going..?
You're a smart guy. Why are you so dense in this matter? The rich getting richer has NOTHING to do wth the goverment's desire to take away more of their wealth. The mindset that the rich somehow owe more and more above the normal share is disgusting.

You believe something fundamentally differently than I do - That's all - there's only a few degrees of separation
In the past 4 years "THE GOVERNMENT" has NOT taken way more of the wealthy folks wealth
Unless you know something I don't - please share the data that show this redistribution that you keep referring to
Because the figures show that in the past 4 years the wealthy have gotten MORE WEALTHY under the current system

I am not in favor of changing the present taxation structure (are you..?)
I am not in favor of adding NEW loopholes for the wealthy or anybody - because - they are amazing loopholes already

I liken it to Gun Hysteria
And I think we know I could care less if they handed out loaded hand guns in Kindergarten
But I hear A LOT about how they're coming to get our guns
and I hear a lot about how they're coming to redistribute the wealth

Show me... stop telling me it's GONNA HAPPEN and how disgusting it is
and show me where the Wealthy aren't getting a great deal in this country
Where's the RAW DEAL for the wealthy..?

Our Board Members and chairmen and CEO's are the most over payed in the world
Our corporations have contributed less these past 4 years than they have to the bottom line in 40 years
Things HAVE NEVER BEEN BETTER for the Mega Corps and CEO's

So I don't understand where I'm so dense and you're so smart
and what's so disgusting - Where the rubber actually hits the road Things couldn't get any better for the elite wealthy
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Chizzang wrote: Our CEO's are the most over payed in the world
Easy, killer. And it's overpaid, not over payed. Is that what a Haaavaaad education gets you nowadays?
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BlueHen86 wrote:
kalm wrote:Meh...wealth is infinite and doesn't need to be redistributed ( I think JSO told me that once). All the 47% need to do is go out there and get after it.
Who cares what Obama said 14 years ago? He's been President for 3.5 years. Like him or not, you know what you've got. Finding this clip is just lame desperation.

I'll say it again, Romney should be hammering Obama on the economy. Obama said lots of things during the 2008 campaign, many of which he failed to deliver on. Romney should be running ads with those sound bites non-stop for the next 7 weeks.

Our embassies are under attack, the economy still sucks and Obama is gaining in the polls. Romney is running one of the worst campaigns ever. Maybe it's a Massachusetts thing!?
This. Romney got sucked into the tit for tat political bashing game hook line and sinker. Once he got into that, her lost his ability to separate himself from the meaningless issues.
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BDKJMU wrote:Care to put your $ where your mouth is?
Want to vote straight up on the electoral college winner? :coffee: $20?
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
:? :? :?

The "rich" 20% provide 80% of the "skin". :coffee:
How does that compare to their income? Believe me I want them carrying less of the burden as that would indicate a strengthening middle class. Please show me where supply side economics and a deregulated financial sector has led to a stronger middle class. This the bed they have bought and paid and for. I do not feel sorry for their tax burden. Sorry.
Well then you REALLY shouldn't feel sorry for the 47% that have NO tax burden. Or those that actually get more BACK than they paid in in the first place.
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