death dealer wrote:
It's got nothing to do with what I want you ignorant cunt. It's about some little kids who can't speak up for themselves, and who didn't ask to be stuck with this condition. I couldn't bring myself to give half a fuck about some ass bag like you. You're on your own and I'm sure that suits you just fine, but I do tend to get pretty fired up about protecting little kids. Much more now that I have some than before that I'll admit. And yes, I definitely am more acutely attuned to this issue because I have a child who suffers with a food allergy. I'll never apologize for that.
You miss the point because you are too busy hurling insults.
I didn't miss the point. I heard you loud and clear. You're not difficult to figure out. And fuck you.
Dear lord... please allow this dangerous combination of hair spary, bat slobber, and D.O.T. four automatic transmission fluid to excite my mind, occupy my spirits, and enrage my body, provoking me to kick any man or woman in the back of the head regardless of what he or she has or has not done unto me. All my Best, Earlie Cuyler.
death dealer wrote:I have a child who suffers with a food allergy. I'll never apologize for that.
death dealer wrote:They don't know why, but some of the evidence points to all the shitty preservative laden, processed food
Not saying... but...
We were guilty of giving them all that crap just like everyone else. But he got very little of it at a very young age. Maybe it was enough to trigger an allergy. Too late to worry about that now.
We actually started avoiding processed food a few years ago for health reasons. I've talked about this before. We don't eat fast food, avoid plastics and canned foods, and stay away from processed and commercially cured meats. I like organic veggies, but would opt for conventional fresh over processed organic any day. I don't preach to others. I figure you eat your way, I'll eat mine. I do counsel patients about nutrition, particularly in relation to their children, but that's part of my job.
I sure feel lots better. I'm leaner, stronger, and it has really helped me take my cycling to the next level. There are plenty of studies about nutrition and endurance sports, so I'm sure you know what in talking about.
Dear lord... please allow this dangerous combination of hair spary, bat slobber, and D.O.T. four automatic transmission fluid to excite my mind, occupy my spirits, and enrage my body, provoking me to kick any man or woman in the back of the head regardless of what he or she has or has not done unto me. All my Best, Earlie Cuyler.
I dated a girl with nut allergies. Scary stuff. She had to keep an epi pen on her because if she came into contact with even the most minuscule amount of peanut residue or oil her airway would close.
It is impossible to supervise a bunch of 8 year olds in the lunch room. They get their food all over their fingers and they touch each other. I have no problem with doing away with the peanut butter in the school cafeterias, because otherwise you are just asking for a tragedy that could otherwise be prevented. I know it sucks, but it is the biological world we live in these days.
Agreed that there seem to have been an exponential increase in these types of allergies over the last 20 years.
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
CID1990 wrote:I dated a girl with nut allergies. Scary stuff. She had to keep an epi pen on her because if she came into contact with even the most minuscule amount of peanut residue or oil her airway would close.
It is impossible to supervise a bunch of 8 year olds in the lunch room. They get their food all over their fingers and they touch each other. I have no problem with doing away with the peanut butter in the school cafeterias, because otherwise you are just asking for a tragedy that could otherwise be prevented. I know it sucks, but it is the biological world we live in these days.
Agreed that there seem to have been an exponential increase in these types of allergies over the last 20 years.
CID1990 wrote:I dated a girl with nut allergies. Scary stuff. She had to keep an epi pen on her because if she came into contact with even the most minuscule amount of peanut residue or oil her airway would close.
It is impossible to supervise a bunch of 8 year olds in the lunch room. They get their food all over their fingers and they touch each other. I have no problem with doing away with the peanut butter in the school cafeterias, because otherwise you are just asking for a tragedy that could otherwise be prevented. I know it sucks, but it is the biological world we live in these days.
Agreed that there seem to have been an exponential increase in these types of allergies over the last 20 years.
See post above.
Seriously, those should be a no-brainer. At least until somebody can figure out how to medically deal with these allergies.
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
Cap'n Cat wrote:Gawd, some of you guys (mostly Conks) are dumbfucks.
The only one that is a dumb**ck is you.....
Actually, here (and I want to be crystal clear that I mean in this thread), the Cap'n is spot freaking on the money.
Dear lord... please allow this dangerous combination of hair spary, bat slobber, and D.O.T. four automatic transmission fluid to excite my mind, occupy my spirits, and enrage my body, provoking me to kick any man or woman in the back of the head regardless of what he or she has or has not done unto me. All my Best, Earlie Cuyler.
Seriously, those should be a no-brainer. At least until somebody can figure out how to medically deal with these allergies.
Great posts CID! Thanks for being a voice of reason.
Dear lord... please allow this dangerous combination of hair spary, bat slobber, and D.O.T. four automatic transmission fluid to excite my mind, occupy my spirits, and enrage my body, provoking me to kick any man or woman in the back of the head regardless of what he or she has or has not done unto me. All my Best, Earlie Cuyler.
A country that gives up a little peanut butter for security deserved neither...or something like that.
My youngest sons elementary school just banned it, but my oldest's middle school did not. I'm guessing this has to do with the threat of litigation and how a reasonable school district deals with it.
kalm wrote:A country that gives up a little peanut butter for security deserved neither...or something like that.
My youngest sons elementary school just banned it, but my oldest's middle school did not. I'm guessing this has to do with the threat of litigation and how a reasonable school district deals with it.
I think it's reasonable to expect a middle schoolers to be able to manage his illness on his own. I'm even willing to say older elementary kids.
Dear lord... please allow this dangerous combination of hair spary, bat slobber, and D.O.T. four automatic transmission fluid to excite my mind, occupy my spirits, and enrage my body, provoking me to kick any man or woman in the back of the head regardless of what he or she has or has not done unto me. All my Best, Earlie Cuyler.
death dealer wrote:
I agree with the points you make but is that too much for any one entity to try and handle? My point is when will it stop?
My good friend's daughter is a vegan. He (my friend) didn't go into the school and raise hell because there is meat on the school lunch menu. She brings her own lunch. Parent responsibility.
Look at Bloomberg in NYC with his 16 oz limit on soft drinks. People can make up their own minds.
My point is that gov cannot be everything to everyone. Parents need to be PARENTS. I get your point about kids with bad homes and they have bad parents that do not give a crap.
I see your point and agree somewhat with what you are saying too. But your friends daughter is a vegan by choice. She won't die if she accidentally invests a little meat. And I assume that if she is old enough to identify herself as a vegan, she's probably old enough to know not to take a bite of her friends bologna sandwich.
Dear lord... please allow this dangerous combination of hair spary, bat slobber, and D.O.T. four automatic transmission fluid to excite my mind, occupy my spirits, and enrage my body, provoking me to kick any man or woman in the back of the head regardless of what he or she has or has not done unto me. All my Best, Earlie Cuyler.
If parents are so concerned about their kids coming into contact with peanuts... fucking homeschool them.
It shouldn't be on the onus of every other parent to make sure they pack their kids lunch with items that do not contain products that OTHER parents' kids are allergic to.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:If parents are so concerned about their kids coming into contact with peanuts... fucking homeschool them.
It shouldn't be on the onus of every other parent to make sure they pack their kids lunch with items that do not contain products that OTHER parents' kids are allergic to.
That's definitely an option for some, but not a single mom, or if both parents work. And what about the morons? They can't homeschool their kids!
Dear lord... please allow this dangerous combination of hair spary, bat slobber, and D.O.T. four automatic transmission fluid to excite my mind, occupy my spirits, and enrage my body, provoking me to kick any man or woman in the back of the head regardless of what he or she has or has not done unto me. All my Best, Earlie Cuyler.
I'm curious as to how many "Not my problem" voters here consider themselves "pro-life". I did notice some aisle crossing here, it's kind of odd, to me.
Lookit, but allergies arent just where the kids break out in hives or something. Anaphylactic shock from nut allergies will kill your a$$ graveyard dead quick. They might as well drink antifreeze; sh!ts poisonous to them.
Older kids shouldn't be a problem; they know enough to be careful and cognizant of what they are doing. What I am talking about is the 4-8 age group. My kids live their peanut butter, but if the school says no then I'm fine with that. I wouldn't want it on my conscience or on my daughters conscience on down the road.
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
CID1990 wrote:Lookit, but allergies arent just where the kids break out in hives or something. Anaphylactic shock from nut allergies will kill your a$$ graveyard dead quick. They might as well drink antifreeze; sh!ts poisonous to them.
Older kids shouldn't be a problem; they know enough to be careful and cognizant of what they are doing. What I am talking about is the 4-8 age group. My kids live their peanut butter, but if the school says no then I'm fine with that. I wouldn't want it on my conscience or on my daughters conscience on down the road.
This is not the first thread that I was surprised to find us in agreement, despite our political differences (actually, probably because of our political differences).
CID1990 wrote:Lookit, but allergies arent just where the kids break out in hives or something. Anaphylactic shock from nut allergies will kill your a$$ graveyard dead quick. They might as well drink antifreeze; sh!ts poisonous to them.
Older kids shouldn't be a problem; they know enough to be careful and cognizant of what they are doing. What I am talking about is the 4-8 age group. My kids live their peanut butter, but if the school says no then I'm fine with that. I wouldn't want it on my conscience or on my daughters conscience on down the road.
This is not the first thread that I was surprised to find us in agreement, despite our political differences (actually, probably because of our political differences).
because this isn't a political issue, even if you try to make it one...
“Tolerance and Apathy are the last virtues of a dying society.” Aristotle
Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.
Nevertheless, I don't believe it's right to say no kid at a school can have a peanut product because some other kid might have a peanut allergy. A peanut allergy can mean the need for extreme vigilance at all times as it doesn't take much for some people, peanut products can be in a lot of things. Other people shouldn't have to adjust their lives to try to eliminate the risk. Here's a story of a Canadian girl who kissed her boyfriend about 9 hours after he ate peanut butter on toast then died of an allergic reaction.
I think it's probably a good idea to always have epinephrine shots handy as I think it's really hard to go through life without coming into contact with peanut products.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star? Deep Purple: No One Came
Sorry maybe I missed it in the "I hate snotty kids and don't care if they die" section of the thread, but anyone have any thoughts on why the deadly food allergy is something of such common occurrence lately?
Tod wrote:
This is not the first thread that I was surprised to find us in agreement, despite our political differences (actually, probably because of our political differences).
because this isn't a political issue, even if you try to make it one...
It kind of is though. It's a nanny state, protect everyone, litiginous society philosophy versus personal responsibility and freedom.
I still say it's the threat of lawsuits argument. Little Johnny dies from a peanut allergy at school, his parents lawyer up and the first thing they're gonna look at it what precautions the school took to avoid this. They are then going to look at the policies of other school districts. If more than a few of them have banned peanuts than you might be in a little trouble. So it's an ahhh fuck it, it ain't worth the threat situation.
A few years back, my business partnered with a church to host an easter egg hunt. The local elementary granted us permission to send fliers home with all the kids promoting it. We print the fliers, drop them off and then I get a call later that day from the school saying we need to remove the term "easter" from the flier or else they won't hand them out. The administrator apologized for the stupid policy but said it's easier for the school district to simply ban things than risk even the potential for legal action.
danefan wrote:The bigger question is why the f are there so many food allergies these days?
I don't remember know one single kid growing up that had a peanut allergy.
Thanks, that's where I was going too.
Kids need to walk away from the PS3 and Wii's from time to time, go outside and build up a freakin' immune system like most of us did. Why don't we just put them in a bubble with elbow/knee pads and helmets and send them out to play?
