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I haven't read all of the pages but I thought this seems true based on the failed president's rules of engagement elsewhere.
http://freebeacon.com/reports-marines-n ... live-ammo/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

U.S. Marines defending the American embassy in Egypt were not permitted by the State Department to carry live ammunition, limiting their ability to respond to attacks like those this week on the U.S. consulate in Cairo.

Ambassador to Egypt Anne Patterson “did not permit U.S. Marine guards to carry live ammunition,” according to multiple reports on U.S. Marine Corps blogs spotted by Nightwatch. “She neutralized any U.S. military capability that was dedicated to preserve her life and protect the US Embassy.” …

While Marines are typically relied on to defend U.S. territory abroad, such as embassies, these reports indicate that the Obama administration was relying on Egypt’s new Muslim Brotherhood-backed government to ensure American security, a move observers are questioning as violence in Cairo continues to rage.
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This is nice

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Kerry Picket at The Washington Times reported:

According to the Lebanese news organization Tayyar.org, citing AFP news sources, U.S. ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens, who was killed by gunmen that stormed the U.S. consulate in Benghazi on Tuesday, was reportedly raped before being murdered. A google translation of the report says.

A news report made by the Libyan Free Press is also reporting that Ambassador Stevens was sodomized before he was killed:

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Bronco wrote:-

This is nice
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09 ... is-murder/

Kerry Picket at The Washington Times reported:

According to the Lebanese news organization Tayyar.org, citing AFP news sources, U.S. ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens, who was killed by gunmen that stormed the U.S. consulate in Benghazi on Tuesday, was reportedly raped before being murdered. A google translation of the report says.

A news report made by the Libyan Free Press is also reporting that Ambassador Stevens was sodomized before he was killed:
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If the rape thing is true, it just paints an even better picture of the muslim slime we're dealing with.

I don't buy the story, but I also wouldn't put it past the subhumans that live there.

I hope that Season 6 of Breaking Bad is Walter White moving to Cairo or Kabul and just riding around the desert in a Toyota Hi-Lux and a .50 cal fucking up ragheads.
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Bronco wrote:I haven't read all of the pages but I thought this seems true based on the failed president's rules of engagement elsewhere.
http://freebeacon.com/reports-marines-n ... live-ammo/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

U.S. Marines defending the American embassy in Egypt were not permitted by the State Department to carry live ammunition, limiting their ability to respond to attacks like those this week on the U.S. consulate in Cairo.

Ambassador to Egypt Anne Patterson “did not permit U.S. Marine guards to carry live ammunition,” according to multiple reports on U.S. Marine Corps blogs spotted by Nightwatch. “She neutralized any U.S. military capability that was dedicated to preserve her life and protect the US Embassy.” …

While Marines are typically relied on to defend U.S. territory abroad, such as embassies, these reports indicate that the Obama administration was relying on Egypt’s new Muslim Brotherhood-backed government to ensure American security, a move observers are questioning as violence in Cairo continues to rage.
Why would I want the Marines to be firing on the protestors in Egypt? What happened in Libya didn't happen in Egypt, and as bad as storming an embassy is, a handful of Marines (and that's all they have, just a handful - it's not like a full division are stationed in these embassies) firing live ammo at protestors would only ensure the place would be overrun and likely many people, including ours, killed. Embassies aren't forts - if people want to get in, and if the goverment hosting the embassy aren't going to stop them, then they'll get in. It is up to the host country to make sure foreign embassies don't get sacked. If we don't think they will stop this, then we need to pull our people out of there.
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Why would I want the Marines to be firing on the protestors in Egypt? What happened in Libya didn't happen in Egypt, and as bad as storming an embassy is, a handful of Marines (and that's all they have, just a handful - it's not like a full division are stationed in these embassies) firing live ammo at protestors would only ensure the place would be overrun and likely many people, including ours, killed. Embassies aren't forts - if people want to get in, and if the goverment hosting the embassy aren't going to stop them, then they'll get in. It is up to the host country to make sure foreign embassies don't get sacked. If we don't think they will stop this, then we need to pull our people out of there.

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93henfan wrote:If the rape thing is true, it just paints an even better picture of the muslim slime we're dealing with.

I don't buy the story, but I also wouldn't put it past the subhumans that live there.

I hope that Season 6 of Breaking Bad is Walter White moving to Cairo or Kabul and just riding around the desert in a Toyota Hi-Lux and a .50 cal fucking up ragheads.

I haven't seen a single reputible source confirming that.


Remember - these are the same fucking idiots that are claiming the US apologized for the attack six hours BEFORE the actuall incident in Cairo.

Disgusting human beings lying about America, and Americans dying just to try to score political points against their irrational hatred of the POTUS.
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White House Disavows Cairo Apology (Free Republic broke embassy apology story)
Politico ^ | Tuesday, September 11, 2012 | Byron Tau

Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:46:19 PM by kristinn

The White House is disavowing a statement from their own Cairo embassy that apologized for anti-Muslim activity in the United States.

"The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government," a senior administration official told POLITICO.

The U.S. embassy in Cairo put out a statement early Tuesday that apologized for an anti-Muslim film being circulated by an Israeli-American real estate developer.

"The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions," the embassy said in a statement published online.

According to the Wall Street Journal, the film depicts the Muslim prophet Muhammed as a "womanizer, pedophile and fraud" — depiction bound to offend many Muslims.

The embassy came under widespread criticism for failing to defend free speech in the face of threats of violence. Egyptian protesters rioted anyway, breaching the embassy walls and tearing down the American flag.

"Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind," Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in a Tuesday statement.
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Wouldn't be surprised if he was sodomized
they seem to like doing it to degrade their enemies
SIRTE (BNO NEWS) — A video released by the Global Post appears to capture an unidentified man sodomizing ousted Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi with an object before he was eventually killed.

The video was released on Friday but a closer review of the footage on Saturday appears to show a person bending over and inserting a thin piece of wood inside Gaddafi’s bottom. The video was released by the website Global Post, which obtained the footage from rebel fighters.

Gaddafi was captured on Thursday morning by fighters supporting Libya’s transitional government as he tried to flee his hometown Sirte. He was eventually shot dead, but it remains unclear whether he was executed by his captors or if he was killed during fighting between pro-Gaddafi and anti-Gaddafi forces.
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Bronco - king of right-wing lies/falsehoods/smears.

Any rumor that denigrates Obama - gotta be 100% true!!!



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That's all you got

Post your time line please

Timeline: Obama Admin Took 16 Hours to Disavow Embassy Apology
Breitbart: Big Government ^ | 9-13-12 | John Sexton



A timeline of yesterday's events shows that it took the Obama administration 16 hours to disavow a statement posted on the US Embassy in Cairo website. It appears that the administration's failure to correct the embassy and the doubling down by embassy staff 13 hours after the statement was published prompted Mitt Romney's curt comments about the administration's response.

Here is a partial timeline of events. All times are Eastern Standard Time (EST), 6 hours earlier than Cairo time.

5:50AM - Cairo Embassy publishes a statement on its website which rejects those who "abuse" free speech. This is a reference to an anti-Islam film, portions of which have been broadcast on TV in Arabic. The entire speech is tweeted out line by line on the Embassy account.

1:42PM - The Associated Press tweets word of an attack on the Cairo Embassy. The US flag is pulled down and replaced with a black Islamic flag.

5:28PM - Cairo Embassy tweets out three defensive comments, the last of which doubles down on the initial statement. It reads "3) Sorry, but neither breaches of our compound or angry messages will dissuade us from defending freedom of speech AND criticizing bigotry." To this point there has been no comment, tweet, or statement defending free speech, only the statement/tweet criticizing those who abuse it.

7:00-7:20PM - The Embassy puts out another tweet tripling down on their initial statement. "This morning's condemnation (issued before the protests began) still stands. As does our condemnation of unjustified breach of the Embassy." This tweet is later deleted.

8:06PM - AP reports an attack on the US Embassy in Benghazi, Libya has resulted in one death and one injury.

10:09PM - The Romney camp sends ~snip~


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It used to be that when we were attacked, everyone rallied behind the President. 9/11 was 11 years ago and everyone backed Bush, at least for a while.

Sad and unpatriotic that people are choosing now to attack Obama. Country first, party should be lower on the list.
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If the Muslims want respect, they have to show it. They burn our flag on a regular basis. They also burn effigies of the President and Uncle Sam when the mood strikes. And now they attack our embassies.

Fuck them. I think we need to start making a series Muhammad gay porn movies and burning Korans as fast as we can't print them.
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BlueHen86 wrote:If the Muslims want respect, they have to show it.
The respectful Muslims rarely make the news.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:If the Muslims want respect, they have to show it.
The respectful Muslims rarely make the news.
They aren't real Muslims. They don't actively worship and they only go to Mosque on Christmas and Easter. ;)
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BlueHen86 wrote:It used to be that when we were attacked, everyone rallied behind the President. 9/11 was 11 years ago and everyone backed Bush, at least for a while.

Sad and unpatriotic that people are choosing now to attack Obama. Country first, party should be lower on the list.
Watch them find out that Iran was behind the Libya attack. With their current WMD, er, nucular program for peaceful energy purposes, what's Obama's next move? It won't be the Conks making the biggest noise against the President that's for sure...
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Baldy wrote:
Tod wrote: No, treating people like **** got us WW II. You apparently haven't read your history books.
Tod, don't stop there, please educate us. :popcorn:
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The Treaty of Versailles practically guaranteed another war. Many warned that the treaty was too harsh, would lead to more war, but were shut down. They were right.
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Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
Tod wrote: No, treating people like **** got us WW II. You apparently haven't read your history books.

Are you kidding me?

It started with England's Chamberlain and his appeasement philosophy...how did that work out?

You do not know history.... :tothehand:
No. Both the British and French are to blame to a degree for letting Germany flout some of the terms of the treaty, no doubt at all.

In fact, when the violations became apparent there is little to no doubt that it could have been stopped with military force.

When Chamberlain agreed to cede lands to Germany, it was too late. He asked the RAF if they could protect Britain from the Luftwaffe, and was told "No".

The RAF was strong enough by the time Germany invaded Poland to declare war without seeing the utter destruction of the UK.

The German abilities and ferocity still took Britain and France (and the world) by surprise.

To say it started with Chamberlain's appeasement shows a clear lack of education on your part.
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BlueHen86 wrote:If the Muslims want respect, they have to show it. They burn our flag on a regular basis. They also burn effigies of the President and Uncle Sam when the mood strikes. And now they attack our embassies.

**** them. I think we need to start making a series Muhammad gay porn movies and burning Korans as fast as we can't print them.
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Don't forget binLaden was found with a decent stash of porn. Just like the Cathoilc Church issues, the hardcore Muslim population is sexually repressed and acts out in ways like sodomy. Muhammad probably acted that way too, I say we carpet bomb the lot of them with South Park videos making fun of Muhammad.
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BlueHen86 wrote:If the Muslims want respect, they have to show it. They burn our flag on a regular basis. They also burn effigies of the President and Uncle Sam when the mood strikes. And now they attack our embassies.

**** them. I think we need to start making a series Muhammad gay porn movies and burning Korans as fast as we can't print them.
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Don't forget binLaden was found with a decent stash of porn. Just like the Cathoilc Church issues, the hardcore Muslim population is sexually repressed and acts out in ways like sodomy. Muhammad probably acted that way too, I say we carpet bomb the lot of them with South Park videos making fun of Muhammad.
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Tod wrote:
Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:

Are you kidding me?

It started with England's Chamberlain and his appeasement philosophy...how did that work out?

You do not know history.... :tothehand:
No. Both the British and French are to blame to a degree for letting Germany flout some of the terms of the treaty, no doubt at all.

In fact, when the violations became apparent there is little to no doubt that it could have been stopped with military force.

When Chamberlain agreed to cede lands to Germany, it was too late. He asked the RAF if they could protect Britain from the Luftwaffe, and was told "No".

The RAF was strong enough by the time Germany invaded Poland to declare war without seeing the utter destruction of the UK.

The German abilities and ferocity still took Britain and France (and the world) by surprise.

To say it started with Chamberlain's appeasement shows a clear lack of education on your part.


Then you can go back to the signing of the armistice in 1918. Humilition of Germany and its people setting the tone for someone like Hitler to rise to prominence.
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Tod wrote:
Baldy wrote: Tod, don't stop there, please educate us. :popcorn:
Can't wait to hear this one. :lol:
The Treaty of Versailles practically guaranteed another war. Many warned that the treaty was too harsh, would lead to more war, but were shut down. They were right.

Just saw this....I agree with this. You are right on this.
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Rob Iola wrote:Where were the Marines and local intelligence? I don't mean to speak ill of the Marines, just that there was no immediate strong defense to any of the attacks (including the ones occurring now) - if it turns out that this is by design and high-level policy (don't want to inflame local sensibilities), then this could really blow up in Obama's face...

As for the strong response - million dollar cruise missile up a camel's ass?

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Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
Tod wrote: The Treaty of Versailles practically guaranteed another war. Many warned that the treaty was too harsh, would lead to more war, but were shut down. They were right.

Just saw this....I agree with this. You are right on this.
You guys are a couple of History Channel auto didacts. The Treaty of Versailles created much resentment, but it was not the cornerstone cause of WWII. It provided the sentiment, gave rise to the Nationalist movements, but France and England willingly ignored the situation and then relied on appeasement rather than strengthening their forces on the Continent to deter Hitler and threaten him with an immediate second front.

I suggest that rather than getting your information from television you should concentrate on more scholarly sources. A good start would be Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by Willuam L. Shirer. It is a very widely accepted chronology, and there's a whole chapter in there on diplomacy with the Nazis. It is about as basic as it gets.

Of course Germans were humiliated. They should have been; they waged a war of aggression in Europe (although many other countries were culpable for their ill advised mutual defense pacts).

However, the failures which facilitated the second war were those of France and Britain, who balked at enforcing the demilitarization clauses of the treaty (for fear of politically empowering the Nazis and other Nationalist groups.... this is also known as appeasement) and then their subsequent decisions to remain static and weak on the French frontier while Hitler carved up the Sudetenland. Also appeasement. It was precisely the aloof foreign policy of those two countries which politically boosted the National Socialists.

There are documented conversation between Goebbels and Hitler, referencing directly how Chamberlain's naïveté was their greatest asset prior to the annexations and the attack on Poland. Hitler said it himself.
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