How are they supposed to go to college when they're all in prison. Jeez, cut 'em some slack.Chizzang wrote:What are we going to do with the 50% of black males today who do not even bother to graduate from high school..?
If you remove athletic scholarship attendee's LESS THAN 1% of college students are black males
less than one percent - let that sink in
Less than one percentof college students are Black Males attending for educational advancement
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Perhaps Obama's policies are racist?LeadBolt wrote:If disagreeing with Obama's policies is racist, does that mean that Obama's policies are tied to race?
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YOU!Chizzang wrote:What are we going to do with the 50% of black males today who do not even bother to graduate from high school..?
If you remove athletic scholarship attendee's LESS THAN 1% of college students are black males
less than one percent - let that sink in
Less than one percentof college students are Black Males attending for educational advancement
Report to the department of sensitivity programming and re-education immediately!
Racist beast.
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I wonder if the psychologist involved would say that the same principle applies to people who oppose Clarence Thomas' judicial philosophies.
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It's an ancient debate tactic - and I mean ancientJohnStOnge wrote:I wonder if the psychologist involved would say that the same principle applies to people who oppose Clarence Thomas' judicial philosophies.
If you're not "This" then by default you must be "That"
If you don't agree with George Bush then you obviously Hate America
If you don't think she's hot, then you must be gay
If you don't see things my way then you must be stupid
and 6 degrees off from that is:
If you don't believe The Lord Baby Jesus is the Everlasting Lord God our Savior - then you're going to hell
Works every time....
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You are about the most worthless Ivy Leaguer I ever ran across, Chizz.Chizzang wrote:It's an ancient debate tactic - and I mean ancientJohnStOnge wrote:I wonder if the psychologist involved would say that the same principle applies to people who oppose Clarence Thomas' judicial philosophies.
If you're not "This" then by default you must be "That"
If you don't agree with George Bush then you obviously Hate America
If you don't think she's hot, then you must be gay
If you don't see things my way then you must be stupid
and 6 degrees off from that is:
If you don't believe The Lord Baby Jesus is the Everlasting Lord God our Savior - then you're going to hell
Works every time....
Either that, or JSO has rubbed off on you.
Why not just save all the ink and just say, "Logical fallacy; affirming the consequent."
Zip. Done.
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I like to give examplesCID1990 wrote:You are about the most worthless Ivy Leaguer I ever ran across, Chizz.Chizzang wrote:
It's an ancient debate tactic - and I mean ancient
If you're not "This" then by default you must be "That"
If you don't agree with George Bush then you obviously Hate America
If you don't think she's hot, then you must be gay
If you don't see things my way then you must be stupid
and 6 degrees off from that is:
If you don't believe The Lord Baby Jesus is the Everlasting Lord God our Savior - then you're going to hell
Works every time....
Either that, or JSO has rubbed off on you.
Why not just save all the ink and just say, "Logical fallacy; affirming the consequent."
Zip. Done.
Provide simple catch phrases that stick in your mind - and - drive home the point
War on Women: One of my favorite debate snippets is an all time classic
Know your audience - I come on here with "Logical fallacy" and talk about attacking the individual instead of the argument I'm going to lose my crowd - you gotta go Ugly Early
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
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NiceCID1990 wrote:YOU!Chizzang wrote:What are we going to do with the 50% of black males today who do not even bother to graduate from high school..?
If you remove athletic scholarship attendee's LESS THAN 1% of college students are black males
less than one percent - let that sink in
Less than one percentof college students are Black Males attending for educational advancement
Report to the department of sensitivity programming and re-education immediately!
Racist beast.

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Ok, but if you do as I suggested you can bask in the knowledge that JSO will immediately go research the logical fallacy and then pen a 200 line response as to how his Affirming the Consequent was not actually Affirming the Consequent.Chizzang wrote:I like to give examplesCID1990 wrote:
You are about the most worthless Ivy Leaguer I ever ran across, Chizz.
Either that, or JSO has rubbed off on you.
Why not just save all the ink and just say, "Logical fallacy; affirming the consequent."
Zip. Done.
Provide simple catch phrases that stick in your mind - and - drive home the point
War on Women: One of my favorite debate snippets is an all time classic
Know your audience - I come on here with "Logical fallacy" and talk about attacking the individual instead of the argument I'm going to lose my crowd - you gotta go Ugly Early
okay
You have to know how to work this stuff.
Oh and P.S. I'm your only reader anyway
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I am more fond of John St. Wrong than most people realizeCID1990 wrote:Ok, but if you do as I suggested you can bask in the knowledge that JSO will immediately go research the logical fallacy and then pen a 200 line response as to how his Affirming the Consequent was not actually Affirming the Consequent.Chizzang wrote:
I like to give examples
Provide simple catch phrases that stick in your mind - and - drive home the point
War on Women: One of my favorite debate snippets is an all time classic
Know your audience - I come on here with "Logical fallacy" and talk about attacking the individual instead of the argument I'm going to lose my crowd - you gotta go Ugly Early
okay
You have to know how to work this stuff.
Oh and P.S. I'm your only reader anyway
I particularly enjoy the "I only tell the truth" thing that he does and goes on to tell his opinion which is "his truth" not necessarily "The Truth" but one shouldn't get too bogged down in such little details like those.
You on the other hand are kind of a pain in the ass
You outed me as a Libertarian which I still haven't quite shaken that saddle off yet - so I've been getting rode around by Kalm like Sea Biscuit ever since you slipped that on me
Oh and don't look now but (Hey I hear Wedgie is a Republican)
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Well I only stated the obvious... your feet were sticking WAY out of that closet anyway. Ultimately I don't think you are a Libertarian, just a libertarian. (I.e.: a liberal with a brain)Chizzang wrote:I am more fond of John St. Wrong than most people realizeCID1990 wrote:
Ok, but if you do as I suggested you can bask in the knowledge that JSO will immediately go research the logical fallacy and then pen a 200 line response as to how his Affirming the Consequent was not actually Affirming the Consequent.
You have to know how to work this stuff.
Oh and P.S. I'm your only reader anyway
I particularly enjoy the "I only tell the truth" thing that he does and goes on to tell his opinion which is "his truth" not necessarily "The Truth" but one shouldn't get too bogged down in such little details like those.
You on the other hand are kind of a pain in the ass
You outed me as a Libertarian which I still haven't quite shaken that saddle off yet - so I've been getting rode around by Kalm like Sea Biscuit ever since you slipped that on me
Oh and don't look now but (Hey I hear Wedgie is a Republican)
I gotta go to the old ladies flat tonight - see you boys later
I haven't figured Wedgie out completely, yet, but any hardcore progressive with an arsenal is a dichotomy anyway. Maybe he is apolitical, only contrarian to the point that he seems liberal.
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No worries. I don't even know what "Affirming the Consequent" is. But I guess I can Google it and find out.Ok, but if you do as I suggested you can bask in the knowledge that JSO will immediately go research the logical fallacy and then pen a 200 line response as to how his Affirming the Consequent was not actually Affirming the Consequent.
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Could I ever be a star?
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Part of telling the truth is truthfully expressing your opinions. There are many, many things which cannot be known with absolute certainty. But when someone asks you about them. you can either tell them what you really think or you can provide an answer in consideration of what the "acceptable" opinion on the subject is.I particularly enjoy the "I only tell the truth" thing that he does and goes on to tell his opinion which is "his truth" not necessarily "The Truth" but one shouldn't get too bogged down in such little details like those.
An awful lot of people will avoid saying what they really think in order to provide an answer that conforms to the "acceptable" way of looking at things. I don't.
In the real world, there may be times when I just stay silent. The reality is that we can be penalized for our opinions. But if I do say something, I'm going to say something I believe to be true. I'm not going to say something I do not believe to be true just because that's the "acceptable" thing to say.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?
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And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?
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Sorry, Bubba, but as a long-time Libertarian and libertarian, I can tell you that we are not liberal. Conservatives think we are on the Left and the Left hates us because they think we are on the Right. The Left/Right paradigm is a false dichotomy. There are ideologies that transcend the two dominant contemporary American political narratives.CID1990 wrote:Well I only stated the obvious... your feet were sticking WAY out of that closet anyway. Ultimately I don't think you are a Libertarian, just a libertarian. (I.e.: a liberal with a brain)Chizzang wrote:
I am more fond of John St. Wrong than most people realize
I particularly enjoy the "I only tell the truth" thing that he does and goes on to tell his opinion which is "his truth" not necessarily "The Truth" but one shouldn't get too bogged down in such little details like those.
You on the other hand are kind of a pain in the ass
You outed me as a Libertarian which I still haven't quite shaken that saddle off yet - so I've been getting rode around by Kalm like Sea Biscuit ever since you slipped that on me
Oh and don't look now but (Hey I hear Wedgie is a Republican)
I gotta go to the old ladies flat tonight - see you boys later
I haven't figured Wedgie out completely, yet, but any hardcore progressive with an arsenal is a dichotomy anyway. Maybe he is apolitical, only contrarian to the point that he seems liberal.
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Ok you're right in the sense that I looked up affirming the consequent and will say that I don't think I've ever done that. Perhaps you can provide an example of a case in which I have.k, but if you do as I suggested you can bask in the knowledge that JSO will immediately go research the logical fallacy and then pen a 200 line response as to how his Affirming the Consequent was not actually Affirming the Consequent.
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Could I ever be a star?
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And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?
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There are libertarians of all bents, I know because I count myself as one. My brother and I are on different sides of the spectrum but we still fall into the libertarian classification.CitadelGrad wrote:Sorry, Bubba, but as a long-time Libertarian and libertarian, I can tell you that we are not liberal. Conservatives think we are on the Left and the Left hates us because they think we are on the Right. The Left/Right paradigm is a false dichotomy. There are ideologies that transcend the two dominant contemporary American political narratives.CID1990 wrote:
Well I only stated the obvious... your feet were sticking WAY out of that closet anyway. Ultimately I don't think you are a Libertarian, just a libertarian. (I.e.: a liberal with a brain)
I haven't figured Wedgie out completely, yet, but any hardcore progressive with an arsenal is a dichotomy anyway. Maybe he is apolitical, only contrarian to the point that he seems liberal.
I was calling Chizz a liberal with a brain, not libertarians, I just worded it badly.
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Less than one percent. I got to call BULL SHYTE on this number.Chizzang wrote:What are we going to do with the 50% of black males today who do not even bother to graduate from high school..?
If you remove athletic scholarship attendee's LESS THAN 1% of college students are black males
less than one percent - let that sink in
Less than one percentof college students are Black Males attending for educational advancement
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Chizzang wrote:I am more fond of John St. Wrong than most people realizeCID1990 wrote:
Ok, but if you do as I suggested you can bask in the knowledge that JSO will immediately go research the logical fallacy and then pen a 200 line response as to how his Affirming the Consequent was not actually Affirming the Consequent.
You have to know how to work this stuff.
Oh and P.S. I'm your only reader anyway
I particularly enjoy the "I only tell the truth" thing that he does and goes on to tell his opinion which is "his truth" not necessarily "The Truth" but one shouldn't get too bogged down in such little details like those.
You on the other hand are kind of a pain in the ass
You outed me as a Libertarian which I still haven't quite shaken that saddle off yet - so I've been getting rode around by Kalm like Sea Biscuit ever since you slipped that on me
Oh and don't look now but (Hey I hear Wedgie is a Republican)
I gotta go to the old ladies flat tonight - see you boys later
Either c-grad is right or it's true that Libertarians are really just Republicans who like to smoke pot and get laid.
I'm just a cynic.
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Here's an article from a Howard University professor saying it's around 5.5% total. Remove scholarship athletes and you probably drop it a few points.mrklean wrote:Less than one percent. I got to call BULL SHYTE on this number.Chizzang wrote:What are we going to do with the 50% of black males today who do not even bother to graduate from high school..?
If you remove athletic scholarship attendee's LESS THAN 1% of college students are black males
less than one percent - let that sink in
Less than one percentof college students are Black Males attending for educational advancement
http://www.theroot.com/views/debunking- ... s?page=0,0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Here is why a correction was in order: IPUMS data show that today, the nation's 12.7 million black men 18 years old and older make up 5.5 percent of the adult population in the U.S., and the 76.4 million white men in the same age range make up 32.7 percent. According to the 2010 census, 1.2 million black male college students make up 5.5 percent of all college students, while the 5.6 million white male students make up 27 percent (or should we say "just" 27 percent?)
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Instead of using "The Root" which is a black cheerleading siteASUG8 wrote:Here's an article from a Howard University professor saying it's around 5.5% total. Remove scholarship athletes and you probably drop it a few points.mrklean wrote:
Less than one percent. I got to call BULL SHYTE on this number.
http://www.theroot.com/views/debunking- ... s?page=0,0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Here is why a correction was in order: IPUMS data show that today, the nation's 12.7 million black men 18 years old and older make up 5.5 percent of the adult population in the U.S., and the 76.4 million white men in the same age range make up 32.7 percent. According to the 2010 census, 1.2 million black male college students make up 5.5 percent of all college students, while the 5.6 million white male students make up 27 percent (or should we say "just" 27 percent?)
I'll round up numbers from actual studies done by Stanford and Harvard
Please stay tuned
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I am waiting with barely controllable excitement at the prospect of an intellectual battle between you and Klean.Chizzang wrote:Instead of using "The Root" which is a black cheerleading siteASUG8 wrote:
Here's an article from a Howard University professor saying it's around 5.5% total. Remove scholarship athletes and you probably drop it a few points.
http://www.theroot.com/views/debunking- ... s?page=0,0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'll round up numbers from actual studies done by Stanford and Harvard
Please stay tuned
It looks to be epic. Hammer of God epic.
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The statistics are morbidCID1990 wrote:I am waiting with barely controllable excitement at the prospect of an intellectual battle between you and Klean.Chizzang wrote:
Instead of using "The Root" which is a black cheerleading site
I'll round up numbers from actual studies done by Stanford and Harvard
Please stay tuned
It looks to be epic. Hammer of God epic.
actually as I start to look it's worse than I originally thought
Graduation rates and grade point averages etc. etc.
This is going to depress me
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A: The actual teachings of Jesus
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Yes but Klean says all those numbas an stuff don't sound right.Chizzang wrote:The statistics are morbidCID1990 wrote:
I am waiting with barely controllable excitement at the prospect of an intellectual battle between you and Klean.
It looks to be epic. Hammer of God epic.
actually as I start to look it's worse than I originally thought
Graduation rates and grade point averages etc. etc.
This is going to depress me
ugh
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